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Kawn Flixx 09-01-04 10:38 PM

this sorta bothers me
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonofisis#1
Yea, Whites Are Actually Controling Hip Hop When You Think About It, The Fans, And The Corporate Ceo's Of The Distribution Lables..


^that kinda pissed me off

all the major labels arent controlled by whites

Roc-A-fella:Damon Dash
Shady records: Dr.Dre
Capitol Records: Ron Benson

don't say a race is controllin hip hop pleaase

we had fights and shit ova dat in school
and ppl got to personal with dat-and startin
callin people "names" an shit-so lets not staart dat

and like it or not a black dude did create hip hop man
i aint even racist cuz alota white rappers i like

but back when hip hop was only black-ppl said it was silly-

but SURPRISE SURPRISE!!! since eminem
came its just so popular now
and ppl was laughed at by havin hip hop style and baggy pants and shit
and i think a thread was made sayin white "prisoners" created that

WHAT THE FUCK?

jus sayin even Eminem remember where rap originated
don't forget that-

too many people claimin whites stated everything

i know whites help how hip hop is today (eminem)
but yaw actin like parents and shit
only claim hiphop when its good-but when it wsa jus us
it was stupid and anybody can do it

jus sayin remember yo roots

what yaw think?

ps: i aint racist wat-so-eva- jus staitin my oppinion

Kawn Flixx 09-01-04 10:43 PM

^^ you is one smart bouy you know dat lol

finnaly somebody get it

selah david 09-02-04 03:30 PM

Whites by no means started hip hop. They did capitalize on it because we allowed them to. All the labels you named are imprints and are distributed by either a white company or by a company who's under the publishing umbrella of someone who is white or not black. Eminem is good but he is not a necessity to hip-hop and I think we could survive just as well if not better without him.And then if you wanna get super technical blacks(african americans) didnt start hip-hop either. It was jamaicans...

YuNG TiLT 09-02-04 03:43 PM

i feel this thread because there are a lot of white freestylers and some who r black who got it and they really to kno where hip hop originated from. Then on going conflicts and arguements stur up when 1 thinks the other 1 is wrong. See if we had more specials on hip hop from tha beginning, i think there would be a much wider of an understanding between all races who take it upon themselves to try music in all genres

juss a piece of mind, but nice thread

Arian 09-02-04 03:58 PM

I felt the same way when Charlie Pride startin singing country lol.

Immense 09-02-04 07:12 PM

man,i aint gettin all soft n shit,but i dont see hip-hop as a colour thing,am white,and i love hip hop soo fuckin much no matter wether id be white,black or fuckin purple....id still love it,but yer id say its about even,i dunt think many people got an issue wit colour an shit like tht no more,peeps lookin past tht,thts why i got respect for everyone whos into hiphop in someway,even if i dunt like em,cos i know they gt the same love for it as me.......NO MATTER WOT!anywayz peace!!

Kawn Flixx 09-02-04 07:20 PM

^^ i feel you
but there still people who feel one race did everything
jus check my 1st post

and jamaicans aint create rap boy lol

and jamaicans and africans are basically the same race in a diff country

so there black and in a america there african americans lol

4 real hip hop is growing now because we're all in it now-

all i can do is wish color will stop being mentioned "sonofisis"
i still can't believe dude said that shit...

now that he made that coment i'm not
sure if eminem would be respected if he wasnt white

he might wuld've been hated on jus like g-unit....

see now?

!Mc Merc! 09-02-04 07:23 PM

african american are people who had ancestorsas slaves, and are left in ghettos, otherwised got out stupids

Myster.E 09-03-04 01:13 PM

We have to move on now. Hip-hop is MOBO( Music Of Black Origin) but from the start the aim was to get acceptance because acceptance=U get heard(Da truth) gets heard but now peeps in the game are talking so much shit it's embarrassing. Eminem has extended the fanbase and the reason some blacks are chompin at his white ass is because he's a minority of white rappers who is successful filthy fuckin rich to be exact, this makes him 'special' when more white rappers come like it or not then you will hear people similar to Eminem then it will become like how the 'niggas' are now so many 'niggas' from the same place saying the same thing. There's Bubba Sparxx he ain't as big as Eminem, Eyedea ain't as commercial so this adds meaning to the sayind 'The More Success you have, the more hate you get' or 'Mo' money, mo' problems' I could go on cuz I got more to say but I'll end here.
P.S. Like I say the more Eminem's name occurs, the bigger he gets but a publicity is good publicity, quote me on that.

~Sonofisis~ 09-03-04 01:17 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ProVerse
^that kinda pissed me off

all the major labels arent controlled by whites

Roc-A-fella:Damon Dash
Shady records: Dr.Dre
Capitol Records: Ron Benson

don't say a race is controllin hip hop pleaase

we had fights and shit ova dat in school
and ppl got to personal with dat-and startin
callin people "names" an shit-so lets not staart dat

and like it or not a black dude did create hip hop man
i aint even racist cuz alota white rappers i like

but back when hip hop was only black-ppl said it was silly-

but SURPRISE SURPRISE!!! since eminem
came its just so popular now
and ppl was laughed at by havin hip hop style and baggy pants and shit
and i think a thread was made sayin white "prisoners" created that

WHAT THE FUCK?

jus sayin even Eminem remember where rap originated
don't forget that-

too many people claimin whites stated everything

i know whites help how hip hop is today (eminem)
but yaw actin like parents and shit
only claim hiphop when its good-but when it wsa jus us
it was stupid and anybody can do it

jus sayin remember yo roots

what yaw think?

ps: i aint racist wat-so-eva- jus staitin my oppinion


DO YOU KNOW WHAT A DISTRIBUTION LABLE IS? NONE OF THOSE LABLES THAT YOU NAMED, DISTRIBUTES.. MY QUOTE SAID ALL OF THE DISTRIBUTION LABLES ARE OWNED BY WHITE PEOPLE, I NEVER SAID RECORD LABLES.. UNIVERSAL, COLUMBIA, ETC.. OWNED BY WHITE PEOPLE.. RECORD COMPANYS LIKE AFTERMATH, AND THE ROC MAKE THE MUSIC, COLUMBIA OR UNIVERSAL DISTRIBUTES IT. YOU MAKE IT, THE WHITE MAN DECIDES IF HE WANTS IT ON THE STREETS OR NOT.. PLZ DON'T QUOTE ME, WHEN YOU DON'T EVEN UNDERSTAND WHAT THE HELL I SAID..

AND WHAT YOU DO NOT KNOW PROLLY, IS THAT I'M BLACK!!! THAT WASN'T RACIST, I WAS TELLIN THE TRUTH. REALLY, THAT'S WHY HIP HOP IS FUCKED UP NOW, BECAUSE IT'S CONTROLLED BY OUTSIDE SOURCES, NOT THE FACT THAT THEY'RE WHITE, BUT THE FACT THAT THEY THEMSELVES AREN'T IN THE CULTURE, IT'S ALL BUSINESS MY MAIN MAN..

~Sonofisis~ 09-03-04 01:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by selah david
Whites by no means started hip hop. They did capitalize on it because we allowed them to. All the labels you named are imprints and are distributed by either a white company or by a company who's under the publishing umbrella of someone who is white or not black. Eminem is good but he is not a necessity to hip-hop and I think we could survive just as well if not better without him.And then if you wanna get super technical blacks(african americans) didnt start hip-hop either. It was jamaicans...


NO ACTUALLY, IF YOU WANNA GET MORE TECHNICAL THAN THAT, AFRICA STARTED HIP HOP.. FROM THE DRUM BASE CLEFS IN WEST AFRICA, RHYTHM AND DANCE. BLACK AMERICANS JUST MADE IT INTO A CULTURE AND ADDED THE 5 ELEMENTS..

~Sonofisis~ 09-03-04 01:23 PM

THE THREAD WAS MADE FOR NO REASON THO, JUST COZ HE DIDN'T KNOW WHAT A DISTRIBUTION LABLE WAS, AND MADE A BIG DEAL OUT OF WHAT I SAID COZ HE TOOK IT WRONG..

La Cosa Nostra 09-03-04 01:35 PM

This aint an argument.. Black people started hip hop, but its been intergrated into western culture. There are white rappers and there are black rappers.. There isnt one race that owns hip hop, western culture owns hip hop..

And Im talking to the first guy, not sonofisis, cuz I get his point and its got nothing to do with what proverse is talking about. I agree, its fucked up how people that have no idea about whats good and bad in hip hop culture get to decide what sells and what doesent. But the simple fact is, thats life.. The music industry is full of fake cunts that will act like they know whats good on the street, then fuck off back to their mansions in beverly hills and laugh about how they talked to some street kids today..

And whats worse, is that there is no way of changing that.. Unless you are signed to lables like aftermath etc, you will have to comply with what these pop generating media whores want..

Thats why a lot of rappers say..Fuck big time, keep it underground..

Myster.E 09-03-04 02:12 PM

Okay, we've established that black people created Hip-Hop. Then there are pioneers.

~Sonofisis~ 09-03-04 02:15 PM

That Wasn't Even Supposed To Be The Point. That's A Given, If You Don't Know That Black People Started It, And Did It Best, You're Stupid.. But, All I Said Was That, Distribution Companies Are Prodominantly White Owned Corporations.. Proverse Made It Into A Racial Thing, Not Me, I Am Black..


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