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Tha Q. 09-07-05 06:46 PM

Kanye should be ashamed of himself...TSK TSK
 
exploiting this disaster to get headlines and bolster his record sells


and I don't think it's coincidence...fuck dat


that fundraiser he made those comments at was for the sole benefit of those in New Orleans, not for him to turn it into political commentary.


shame on Kanye...he basically jeopardized the success of a fundraiser for publicity


:nono:

Zone Out 09-07-05 06:50 PM

you're dumb as fuck
he was serious as fuck, not EVERYTHING a rapper do or say is for album sells.
if Chris Tucker would've said it, then what? he would've been tryin to boost his movie sells?
if the rock would've said it, then what? he would've been tryin to boost his wrestlin match ticket sells
I dont think so

Magic5 09-07-05 06:52 PM

Despite his views being complete bullshit, he had every right to say them.

WhoAmI 09-07-05 06:52 PM

if what Q says is true than kanye's every bit the asshole i thought he was......

Nynth Degree 09-07-05 06:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Will S.Unyu
if the rock would've said it, then what? he would've been tryin to boost his wrestlin match ticket sells

The Rock's not black, silly.

gotaasswhoopin4u 09-07-05 07:01 PM

the rock IS black, dumbass
but you didnt even see the point I was makin
if EMINEM would've said it, it would've been completely fine, because he's white

and Mimesis, his views were NOT complete bullshit, George Bush doesnt care about black people, he only cares about rich people, and if a black person just happens to be rich, then maybe....

-Will S.Unyu

Tha Q. 09-07-05 07:02 PM

Kanye capitalized on an opportunity for publicity...Now, he's on all the news shows being "interviewed" again about his comments...Well, let's see if "MUSIC" comes up at all...If it does, then you know he just abused his time during that fundraiser...

all to sell an album...

for all you know, he could have voted for George Bush.

gotaasswhoopin4u 09-07-05 07:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Kanye capitalized on an opportunity for publicity...Now, he's on all the news shows being "interviewed" again about his comments...Well, let's see if "MUSIC" comes up at all...If it does, then you know he just abused his time during that fundraiser...

all to sell an album...

for all you know, he could have voted for George Bush.

I seriously doubt if he did.
not with the black political past he and his parents and grandparents has had.

Magic5 09-07-05 07:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by gotaasswhoopin4u
and Mimesis, his views were NOT complete bullshit, George Bush doesnt care about black people, he only cares about rich people, and if a black person just happens to be rich, then maybe....

-Will S.Unyu


I really do not feel like defending my position right now,

however.. I still think his views are bullshit.

Tha Q. 09-07-05 07:07 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
I really do not feel like defending my position right now,

however.. I still think his views are bullshit.



I don't have a problem with Kanye's views...I have a problem with him choosing that time to vent them...it was wrong...He was there to raise MONEY...not divide people with political commentary...Let's say if someone had just turned on the TV when he made those comments, alot of people who otherwise would have given money might have turned the station or turned the TV off...

Kanye is wrong for saying what he did at the TIME he did...


PERIOD.

Nynth Degree 09-07-05 07:08 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by gotaasswhoopin4u
the rock IS black, dumbass

:( I thought he was 100% Samoan.
Quote:
Originally Posted by gotaasswhoopin4u
but you didnt even see the point I was makin

Except I did, that's why I only contradicted that portion about The Rock. It's ok, a lot of people make stoopid ass misconceptions.

Ysdat 09-07-05 07:11 PM

LMAO @ this entire thread. He said it cause he obviously believed what he said. Q your perspective on things is twisted.

N.Tavarez 09-07-05 07:11 PM

kanye gonna sell regardless
he meant what he said
stupid or not
it came from the heart
u cant fake that shit..............

but i think we are giving his words too much attention.......
its kanye west! not farrakhan......

Nynth Degree 09-07-05 07:14 PM

Word to hotshh! And yo hot, get on, well...the program you recently downloaded. :thumbup:

Tha Q. 09-07-05 07:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ysdat
LMAO @ this entire thread. He said it cause he obviously believed what he said. Q your perspective on things is twisted.




My perspective is my perspective...Why is it hard to believe someone would say something outrageous to sell more records or be in the spot light?


tsk tsk...it's not like it's unprecedented...the only reason this won't hurt Kanye's Career like it did the Dixie Chicks who said they were ashamed to be from Texas "because Bush is from there," is becuase the Hip Hop generation tends to be apathetic toward anything that isn't self-indulgent.


Don't talk to me about my perpectives...I didn't say Kanye didn't BELIEVE what he said. I said he was wrong for sayign it at that venue.


PERIOD.

Zone Out 09-07-05 07:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
I don't have a problem with Kanye's views...I have a problem with him choosing that time to vent them...it was wrong...He was there to raise MONEY...not divide people with political commentary...Let's say if someone had just turned on the TV when he made those comments, alot of people who otherwise would have given money might have turned the station or turned the TV off...

Kanye is wrong for saying what he did at the TIME he did...


PERIOD.

IM PRETTY DAMN POSITIVE!
If any black person would've turned the tv and seen kanye west make that statement, they've would've been GLUED! to the tv set.

TeamOne 09-07-05 10:33 PM

just to let u know Q...... Kanye has had like 2 performances since the hurricane started and hasnt sed shit about New Orleans in them..... and the man can voice his opinion

leady 09-08-05 12:06 PM

who gives a fuck???

whats done is done, bitching, crying and arguing about it wont change a damned thing so i think you all should just shut up and move on.

La Cosa Nostra 09-08-05 01:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
Despite his views being complete bullshit, he had every right to say them.

I cant agree more..
For starters, the fucking FEMA boss's lack of experience is whats to blame for the rescue operation being carried out so badly.. I guess Kanye neglected to mention that neibouring white towns were left with no help or supplies for almost a week during the time where more populated black areas were getting the bulk of the attention.. Right?

Lets face facts..
Kanye is just a sell out attention slut that wants to make a big name for himself and hell do or say anything to achieve this.

Dont the mindless masses love hype........

-Zone Out- 09-08-05 01:18 PM

what neighborin white towns?
you dont even live in america Nos, you dont know what you're talkin about
the video footage was all black people, and maybe out of 1000 black people I seen maybe 5 or 6 white people.
and the white people already looked like white trash

La Cosa Nostra 09-08-05 01:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
what neighborin white towns?
you dont even live in america Nos, you dont know what you're talkin about
the video footage was all black people, and maybe out of 1000 black people I seen maybe 5 or 6 white people.
and the white people already looked like white trash

I take an interest in currant world issues so sue me. Mhmm, they wernt called towns.. It was some other name which I forget.. Meh, its irrelevant.. Because;
Your basically agreeing with kanye that george bush is a racist because a natural disaster flooded a city of mainly poor black people and the FEMA cheif didnt know how to handle the crisis..

Now thats just naieve....
Are you trying to say that bush gave orders to do a bad job on rescue operations because the storm flooded black areas? How would you even know that......

Maybe george bush doesent care about black people, but nothing in this whole scenario points to george bush himself not careing about the flood victems cause they were black or of lower class..

Give me one good reason to agree with you..

-Zone Out- 09-08-05 01:39 PM

THE Government is taking their time sendin medical supplies and help in general to help blacks and the people less off.

La Cosa Nostra 09-08-05 01:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
THE Government is taking their time sendin medical supplies and help in general to help blacks and the people less off.

And you have proof that this is because these people are black & poor?

Or even........ that this matter is related directly to George Bush giving orders to hold off medical supplies?

Sounds like a pretty weak theory to me..

Compose 09-08-05 01:54 PM

Listen to Canibus if you want true salvation.

Compose 09-08-05 01:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
And you have proof that this is because these people are black & poor?

Or even........ that this matter is related directly to George Bush giving orders to hold off medical supplies?

Sounds like a pretty weak theory to me..


Either way Bush stayed on vacation for 3 days of Katrina...guys a pussy fart. :(

La Cosa Nostra 09-08-05 02:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Compose
Either way Bush stayed on vacation for 3 days of Katrina...guys a pussy fart. :(

Yeah I agree dude.. Bush is a fucking twit..
But it just annoys me that attention whores like Kanye West make stupid statements pulling the race card when its not called for then have people agree with him for w/e weird reason they concoct in their heads........

-Zone Out- 09-08-05 03:44 PM

when you become an african american, then you will understand why we pull the race card.

Vango 09-08-05 04:41 PM

Q this might be the first thing we ever have agreed on. this wasnt the time or place for those comments. Im not a big George Bush fan either, but this was a charity fundraiser.

Tremendous 09-08-05 05:21 PM

^ This was the time for those people Bush doesn't care about Black People if he did those people would have been out of New Orleans by now

DON 09-08-05 06:37 PM

its a shame u watch tv and see some footage and then believe what you see. remember that the news is a show that gets ratings just like any other show. that is how they make money. so when they say its black people not getting help they are doing it for two reasons. 1)our media has become the most biased in the world and 2)they say that to get all the blacks in america in an uprage and to hate bush

why do u think the media puts a negative spin on iraq and then right now they are telling you that bush is not helping them because they are black? that is because our media is biased against bush and his cabinet. the media CHOOSES not to show the footage of the whites who were affected more, in order to make all of you form a negative opinion on our country and bush.

so congrats, your a sellout and a media tool if you watch that shit and believe it. i have famly down there, the blacks that are left always stay to loot and rob and do bad shit. and always the white ppl leave. but notice how mississippi and alabama get no attention just the blacks in new orleans. think.

but no doubt about it george bush is not a good leader and he has made almost every bad decision possible.

anxiety 09-08-05 07:18 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
when you become an african american, then you will understand why we pull the race card.

Because you take any excuse you can to get a free ride...

-Zone Out- 09-08-05 07:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by anxiety
Because you take any excuse you can to get a free ride...

shut the fuck up
now you see why I dropped yo bitch ass from my crew
and you cried like the little bitch you are
bitch ass bitch

anxiety 09-08-05 07:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
shut the fuck up
now you see why I dropped yo bitch ass from my crew
and you cried like the little bitch you are
bitch ass bitch


Good one :thumbup:
And I aint cry I just said your stupid... Which you are... So bye now.

Compose 09-08-05 08:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by DON
i have famly down there, the blacks that are left always stay to loot and rob and do bad shit. and always the white ppl leave.


wow..............you think you're one to talk about racism? :nono:

DON 09-08-05 09:04 PM

^if the truth is racism, then yes im a racist. almost every black person stays in new orleans during a hurricane and afterward they come out and loot. dont believe me ask anybody who lives in the city, thats why all the whites leave cuz its true, same reason why almost every family down there owns a gun for hurricanes, cause the poor black ppl loot the entire city.

and you think ur one to talk about wats true or not?, please u have no knowledge of how things are, fuck racism, every black guy is gona play race card all the time. its the dumbasses like you that actually give a shit and care what they think or say due to race.

La Cosa Nostra 09-09-05 12:58 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
when you become an african american, then you will understand why we pull the race card.

Wow..
While you join the forefront for fighting against the white man putting steriotypes on your race. Take time to think about all the african americans in gangs, shooting, stabbing, robbing.. Disturbing the peace, wanting to fight everyone, selling drugs, raping, selling guns, killing or bashing people for simply being in the wrong areas, ETC ETC ETC......

Look you want to pull the race card on your government every time something goes wrong, but your not prepared to face up for the things SOME (def not all) your people bring to america as a country. Bush might be a racist fuck to your people, but try and give me a good reason why all the lower class people promoting thug life and living as career criminals in gangs that hate the government and wanna live as outlaws should be treated as well as the upper class citizens that pay their taxes and dont disturb the peace. Look, that aint even the issue though, the issue is that a natural disaster happened to a largly populated black area, and FEMA (Federal Emergency Management Agency) did a shit job of getting it under control.. You have absolutly no proof that the government or more importantly GEORGE BUSH said "ohh there just black, lets be real slow and hopefully some will die anyway"..
But sure...............
You pull that race card my brutha......
And I'll keep seeing the situation from outside all the bullshit and I will say what most white people are too scared to say due to that all powerful fucking race card being pulled on them aswell..

Indeph 09-09-05 01:59 PM

Nos is different in america. We talked on aim about this. Aus is different. America is full of racism. We the past the blacks and whites have, blacks ARE a secondary race. We have people who were raised by racist people which most of them are in office. People are so fuckin naive about this thing. Especially those who are white. I understand you're not racist, but they won't accept other whites being racist. I know none of you will ever really get this or understand it, but like Mim said in a past thread I don't know him. I never been white so I don't know how it is. People are quick to accept that, but you know EVERYTHING about being black. Seriously when I was little I was never a leader. On TV I saw all these sidekick black ppl. I never thought I could be anything, but a white mans shadow. You don't understand man. And how come no one is quoting don's post? Every post he makes about blacks are racist. NO ONE cares about that do they?

anxiety 09-09-05 02:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Indeph-
Nos is different in america. We talked on aim about this. Aus is different. America is full of racism. We the past the blacks and whites have, blacks ARE a secondary race. We have people who were raised by racist people which most of them are in office. People are so fuckin naive about this thing. Especially those who are white. I understand you're not racist, but they won't accept other whites being racist. I know none of you will ever really get this or understand it, but like Mim said in a past thread I don't know him. I never been white so I don't know how it is. People are quick to accept that, but you know EVERYTHING about being black. Seriously when I was little I was never a leader. On TV I saw all these sidekick black ppl. I never thought I could be anything, but a white mans shadow. You don't understand man. And how come no one is quoting don's post? Every post he makes about blacks are racist. NO ONE cares about that do they?


Well sure, you could play it that way... Blacks are a secondary race or whatever... There are more whites in America than blacks though, I'm sure Kenya won't have a white president... But the thing is, we are actually working towards having a black president... 100 years ago people would say it was impossible, now, people will say that it's improbable... But we will have a black president one day...

Indeph 09-09-05 02:13 PM

Yeah, but progress doesn't mean it doesn't exsist. I mean can you honestly say goerge bush isn't racist. I mean its just a bad system you know? I'm obviously not racist. Far from it. But people who deny it exsist always puts me on defense. With the panthers being hooked on heroin. Tupac being killed, and all this info in the hands of racist people born in the racist times. http://whiteriderradio.com/communit...ee2308a4fbe3d33

^There are so many like that. And bush clearly said while evading an afgan question "american poverty is in the hands of them. America is made of independents and their problems are not mine".


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