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La Cosa Nostra 03-03-06 11:51 AM

Screw underground hip hop...
 
Why the fuck do underground heads think thats where its at?


Seriously...


You mother fuckers dont know jack shit...
Give me one good reason why underground hip hop is so dope...

And I'll give you 10 why making music that has mass apeal for clubs and dance venues is so much fucking better.....

Its not that I dont like undergroudn hip hop...

I jus think some dudes needa get with the program a bit....Stop hating so much on cats that dont fuck with tech lyricism jus cause they make music that people can dance to......

That is all....

La Cosa Nostra 03-03-06 12:03 PM

No shit....

Then I got through making a cd... And my styles gone though some major changes and realisations......

Which I thought I'd kinda share with some of you cats that still think the underground is where its at....

.......By the way..
You aint no pimp...

Keep watchin movies kiddo....

.Ike. 03-03-06 12:03 PM

i agree 100%....

been trying to tell people that for months now

Young_law 03-03-06 01:30 PM

Underground Hiphop Wack?......
And this is coming from some random dick head.....
.....who probably still lives with his parents......
....You know shit about hip-hop....
..i wouldn't be suprised if your listening to some D4L bullshit right now....
......fucking shit head........

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Mixtape release soon.... -_-
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Young_law 03-03-06 01:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Old Nostradamus
Underground Hiphop Wack?......
And this is coming from some random dick head.....
.....who probably still lives with his parents......
....You know shit about hip-hop....
..i wouldn't be suprised if your listening to some D4L bullshit right now....
......fucking shit head........

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Mixtape release soon.... -_-
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lmao jus a lil ol humor nos

Indeph 03-03-06 01:42 PM

Wtf? Underground hip hop is extremly original with better content. They don't change what they rap about to please high school girls. They rap about more intellegent shit. WHAT THE FUCK? :wtf:

Nynth Degree 03-03-06 01:48 PM

Remember like a week ago, when Nos hated pretty much everyone who was in the mainstream?

tinozwai 03-03-06 01:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Why the fuck do underground heads think thats where its at?


Seriously...


You mother fuckers dont know jack shit...
Give me one good reason why underground hip hop is so dope...

And I'll give you 10 why making music that has mass apeal for clubs and dance venues is so much fucking better.....

I'm STILL on that lyricism tip... But after this innitial cd I'm making right now.. Your prolly gonna see some real evolution in my style.....


Eat a dick up underground heads......



commercial catts you think you ill but check this from a true undergroudnd mc
:shoot: :shoot: :shoot:
Introduction of Kult Warship, take your gin shots I'll sink your Navy/
generous with freestyles like upmarket restuarants wit bread' n gravy/
the revelation thru the eyes of a crook that exhibit the truth/
there's more syllables in my book, than there's unemployed youth/
the Kult quick to leave u open, like Iraqi dealers in coffins/
flyer than most and you're bound to get roasted by bird droppings/
"ease/is" off like strict gramma school in a typical American ghetto/*
u're allowed to rhyme if in the UN Africa is given tha green light to veto/
Warship non-stopping, delivered past an unbroken hymen

Indeph 03-03-06 02:01 PM

Ghetto and veto don't rhyme.

It makes a long E sound. And btw. Wackness.

J.D 03-03-06 02:06 PM

how is all underground hip-hop wack?????? its so much better than all that commerical shit. there's so many ill underground artists like jedi mind tricks, tonedeff, supernatural, immortal technique, slug, eyedea...the list goes on...c'mon man you really cant say all underground hip-hops wack

Indeph 03-03-06 02:08 PM

He's going through a phase. It's when he used to think liking underground rap made him original, but since alot of people like it, he's going to be original by saying he likes mainstream rap. It's quite cute :)

Past Tense 03-03-06 02:12 PM

I like um both....

people just hate mainstream cuz its 'mainstream' shit if a bumpable song comes on i'll bump it but i still got my little brother and ghostface

.Ike. 03-03-06 02:14 PM

ive always said i like mainstream...

so yea...lol...

Past Tense 03-03-06 02:15 PM

I love mainstream you heard that new ti joint they dont know

that shit is mad hot

J.D 03-03-06 02:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by ...Indeph
He's going through a phase. It's when he used to think liking underground rap made him original, but since alot of people like it, he's going to be original by saying he likes mainstream rap. It's quite cute :)

hahaha yerr lool thats wot i was thinkin

and yerr i agree wit past tense, i listen to a mix of mainstream and underground hip-hop really (mainly underground but i still like and listen to alot of mainstream stuff aswell)

.Ike. 03-03-06 02:21 PM

yea ti is putting out some new good stuff now....

Young Dro ft. TI - Shoulder Lean...

OMG..if thats not the best hook ever...lol

Past Tense 03-03-06 02:23 PM

for real T.I's two new songs are fire i cant remember the other one :09

Past Tense 03-03-06 02:24 PM

hey ike get your ass on aim ! you better have finished our collab

.Ike. 03-03-06 02:26 PM

i shall record now......

Past Tense 03-03-06 02:27 PM

yessuh....we gotta hit there

tinozwai 03-03-06 02:27 PM

man to hell with t. i anyone know about Ricky wilson a cut btwn underground and commercial????

Blay'all 03-03-06 02:29 PM

lmao @ you cussin out yourself as of yesterday

L.E 03-03-06 02:31 PM

I like more of underground shit myself, but I don't mind mainstream all too much.

The one thing I don't like about mainstream is how played out it is...every club banger is the same kind of shit.

If somebody came up with an ill concept for a different kind of club banger, I might have more interest in it.

Past Tense 03-03-06 02:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Ennui
I like more of underground shit myself, but I don't mind mainstream all too much.

The one thing I don't like about mainstream is how played out it is...every club banger is the same kind of shit.

If somebody came up with an ill concept for a different kind of club banger, I might have more interest in it.

Best club song concept i've heard is Obie Trice - Got Some Teef

L.E 03-03-06 02:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Past Tense
Best club song concept i've heard is Obie Trice - Got Some Teef


Exactly. Too bad Obie wasn't more recognized...it's a shame because that song was great. It was kind of a story club banger track. Funny as hell too.

Past Tense 03-03-06 02:42 PM

lol yep you seen the music video? shit was funny

L.E 03-03-06 02:45 PM

Never seen the music video.

tinozwai 03-03-06 02:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Past Tense
I love mainstream you heard that new ti joint they dont know

that shit is mad hot


fuck that T I shit man u ever heard about Ricky Wilson ?? a cross btwn Nas and jay z man he`s just wicked :shoot:

J Summers 03-03-06 02:46 PM

thank you nos.. www.soundclick.com/jsummers

T.I. ... WHAT YOU KNOW ABOUT THAT

dopest song of 06... d/l that shit

Past Tense 03-03-06 02:48 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by tinozwai
fuck that T I shit man u ever heard about Ricky Wilson ?? a cross btwn Nas and jay z man he`s just wicked :shoot:

I dont like jay z..and i dont like nas

so i problay woulnd't like him

KISI 03-03-06 03:13 PM

underground music
 
the problem with underground music, a lot of times, in terms of the more lyrical. is that it is full of lyricists, but not songmakers. People like to listen to music, not spoken word to a beat. Many undergrounders, may be more lyrically inclined then say your 50 cents, or P diddy's, or Nelly's, but they are not talented enough to make MUSIC.

And rap is music.

it is

R.hythm A.nd P.oetry

You see, this is how i was, iwas good for a 16, i could stand with anyone. But i had this sort of inner feeling of obligation, to not make MUSIC. i.e. songy chorus', catchy hooks etc.

But singing, from blues, jazz, and r and b is the primary music talent of my family. My uncle is even touring with Columbia records on the jazz thing now. So i have always had an innate sense of melody, and a decent voice. I am a lyricist on level with great rappers, but since having went to the studio now, puttin out my next project, i've become incredibly talented in chorus. I'm making MUSIC now, and not just tracks, with lyrics.

undergrounders almost only have choruses at all on thier songs, out of obligations. I've listened to the most lyrically revered underground artists and i'm not impressed. I'm not biased because everyone says thier good, I gave fair listens and it's not music.

bottom line is this, dancing, block parties, thier parts of black culture/hip hop. that is what a lot of you don't know.

KOOL COL-B 03-03-06 03:33 PM

give me a song that gits me pop lockin, mainstream or undaground, n its dope, werd

Ysdat 03-03-06 03:33 PM

WTF :whacky:

first of all YOU are underground, I am underground, and most rappers on this site with actual move making plans are underground.

Mainstream currently consist's of 50 cent, pall wall, ja rule, game,snoop,lil jon and everyone who seemingly doesnt give a fuck about hip hop as a culture.

So if your striving for your name to be along side them, then knock ya self out.
but remember bro, mainstream usually comes with a chart reaching track, which consists of a catchy beat, someone yelling YYYYEAAAAHHH!!! thru out it, and about 2% lyricism in it. Mainstream is designed to sell records, who buys the records? underage teeny bopping girls and pimple faced kids still having there dinner made by the ma, if you really want to appeal to that type of audiance, sure.

Underground appeals to those who actually appreciatte rap, as rap, underground are those who dont follow fassion trends, who dont support one side of the 50 and game beef, and who dont actually give two fucks about the diffrence between underground and mainstream,but simply doing it for the soul purpose(whatever that may be to that emcee inparticular)

underground is doing it for rap, mainstream is doing it for mass appeal.

Young_law 03-03-06 03:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Po'etiquette
WTF :whacky:

first of all YOU are underground, I am underground, and most rappers on this site with actual move making plans are underground.

Mainstream currently consist's of 50 cent, pall wall, ja rule, game,snoop,lil jon and everyone who seemingly doesnt give a fuck about hip hop as a culture.

So if your striving for your name to be along side them, then knock ya self out.
but remember bro, mainstream usually comes with a chart reaching track, which consists of a catchy beat, someone yelling YYYYEAAAAHHH!!! thru out it, and about 2% lyricism in it. Mainstream is designed to sell records, who buys the records? underage teeny bopping girls and pimple faced kids still having there dinner made by the ma, if you really want to appeal to that type of audiance, sure.

Underground appeals to those who actually appreciatte rap, as rap, underground are those who dont follow fassion trends, who dont support one side of the 50 and game beef, and who dont actually give two fucks about the diffrence between underground and mainstream,but simply doing it for the soul purpose(whatever that may be to that emcee inparticular)

underground is doing it for rap, mainstream is doing it for mass appeal.


you forgot those who arent making any kind of money, and if they do make money, then its chumo change

fuck that shyt, id do all the shyt they doin, if i was gon get paid as much as they do

Ysdat 03-03-06 03:53 PM

so you would sell out? just for money.

Young_law 03-03-06 03:54 PM

yea, for all that money, its not like it would effect my life in any kind of way

Ysdat 03-03-06 03:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The Law
yea, for all that money, its not like it would effect my life in any kind of way


you think having a shit load of money wouldnt effect your life? then you dont have a fucking clue what your on about. If it wont effect your lfie,then why get the money?

but word, go make ya trash money making sell out records.

Young_law 03-03-06 03:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Po'etiquette
you think having a shit load of money wouldnt effect your life? then you dont have a fucking clue what your on about. If it wont effect your lfie,then why get the money?

but word, go make ya trash money making sell out records.


no i mean selling out wont change my life in any kind of way

gettin money will, i can actually buy the stuff i fantasize about having.....and as long as its money, then im straight

Ysdat 03-03-06 03:59 PM

ok,you go sell out.


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