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Tha .Q 12-06-06 08:37 PM

Tupac and Jay Z the two most overrated rappers of all time?
 
I was looking at a poll set up by the members on Allhiphop.com, and Jay Z and Tupac received the most votes as the two most overrated rappers to ever walk the face of the earth.







Holla





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Sir Smash'Alot 12-06-06 08:38 PM

Tupac for sure, die.. its a sure way to get fans.
Jay Z is sometimes put up a little to high on the ranks

Sean Gunner 12-06-06 08:42 PM

I agree wit Jay, never felt his style and probably never will.

Pac, I don't agree. His simple lyrics hold a deeper meaning you really need to read and fully understand. He says a lot without truly saying it.

Maleficent 12-06-06 08:43 PM

Tupac is definitely overrated, I really dont like listening to his music. Same with Big.

JTR 12-06-06 08:53 PM

They aren't overrated. You want to know why?

Because this has been 1 of 1000 Tupac/Jay-Z related threads made on RV alone. Regardless of wether it was for, or against them, it proves the point.

Sir Smash'Alot 12-06-06 09:06 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by JTR
They aren't overrated. You want to know why?

Because this has been 1 of 1000 Tupac/Jay-Z related threads made on RV alone. Regardless of wether it was for, or against them, it proves the point.

Q must be up there with Jay and Tupac in that case.

Tha .Q 12-06-06 09:11 PM

^^Well, someone did tell me that if I up my delivery, I cud be the best rapper since Pac and Big.




heheh



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SerB 12-06-06 09:17 PM

^ HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH AH

Q you'd never go near the skill as Big or Pac had.


Jay nor Pac are overrated. look at everyones music when they have rap, who do they usally have? eminem, pac , Jay-z. -- Common rappers to have.




their is no such thing as overrated and underrated. it is what it is, your just a bitch complaining.

Sir Smash'Alot 12-06-06 09:34 PM

You can find old em on my shit
But nah Common > Pac + Big combined

Since when does sales determine talent?
Anybody who believes just cause somebody can get some insecure follower to put the song on his ipod cause the Big Tigga played it.. Is a idiot.

Ysdat 12-06-06 09:43 PM

jay z yes tupac no.

Tha .Q 12-06-06 09:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serb
^ HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH AH

Q you'd never go near the skill as Big or Pac had.


Jay nor Pac are overrated. look at everyones music when they have rap, who do they usally have? eminem, pac , Jay-z. -- Common rappers to have.




their is no such thing as overrated and underrated. it is what it is, your just a bitch complaining.



Dip shit...as this thread illustrates, OPINIONS are like ASSHOLES.


Now go get fucked in yours.



C-YA



:hump: :thumbup:



PS. After I'm done revolutionizing rap, I'll be sure to send you a post card from where I'm 150% sure your lilly ass won't be.






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Sir Smash'Alot 12-06-06 09:56 PM

I think Q just said he wants to smash serb.
Since girls aint workin out for you, might wanna try it out

SerB 12-06-06 09:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Smash'Alot
You can find old em on my shit
But nah Common > Pac + Big combined

Since when does sales determine talent?
Anybody who believes just cause somebody can get some insecure follower to put the song on his ipod cause the Big Tigga played it.. Is a idiot.


sales mean alot.


and sales are differnet when you get that high up as they did.

you telling me the millions they sold were all followers?

yeah okay their buds. Sales is just a con and proof that these artists deserve the respect.

SerB 12-06-06 09:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Smash'Alot
I think Q just said he wants to smash serb.
Since girls aint workin out for you, might wanna try it out


I got a girlfriend.

how isn't it working out for me?

Tha .Q 12-06-06 09:58 PM

LOL @ smash Serb...


I wudn't smash that ass if someone posted Apexx's face on it.








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Tha .Q 12-06-06 10:00 PM

PS

Sales don't mean shit


PS 2...No one said I'd be better than BIG...they said the best SINCE Pac and BIG.











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Cola 12-06-06 10:02 PM

wtf???? umm put on Don Kulminati...tell me you can't lisetn to that shit all god damn day?? if you can't then your a fucking herb......2pac is the best period.......he sold shit loads of records...becuase he great...you stuipoed fucks

Tha .Q 12-06-06 10:04 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha_Don_of_Mics
wtf???? umm put on Don Kulminati...tell me you can't lisetn to that shit all god damn day?? if you can't then your a fucking herb......2pac is the best period.......he sold shit loads of records...becuase he great...you stuipoed fucks



Ice sold a shit load of records


:thumbup:

Dufflebag Boy 12-06-06 10:16 PM

2pac is underrated everybody say people makin a big deal over nuthin wit him
yet i only see one music video which barily gets played on each afterlife album
i NEVER see any 2pac videos on tv like the ones he did while he was alive
i never hear any talk on his new albums unless its downtalk freal
he has a new album out on shelves and i aint heard a word on it they all on the shelves....just face it ya'll hate pac and u use the "he's ovverated" as a cop out

Sean Gunner 12-06-06 10:20 PM

His 'new' stuff is garbage, that's why.

Dufflebag Boy 12-06-06 10:21 PM

^^^have u even heard any of his shit besides loyal 2 the game????
everybody acts like just cuz loyal 2 the game was wack its all wack
go and hit up Until The End of Time...or Better Dayz..or Still I Rise
i bet you one million bucks u'll change ur mind

p.s we well never know what pac would of spit to or not
he didnt care bout beats..if u want proof go listen to the original versions
if people didnt change nuthin bout his unreleased shit ya'll be bitchin bout that, just cuz pac aint around on tv supporting it..goin round doing commercials and theres no promotion what so ever people call his new shit "trash"

JTR 12-06-06 10:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Smash'Alot
Q must be up there with Jay and Tupac in that case.


If Q was never on RV, and was a rapper signed to a label making CD's

How many threads would be about him?

Get it know?

Compose 12-06-06 10:50 PM

Tupac no jay-z yea, pac was on real shit like nas, jay is just like ...there..., to flow onto dope beats and nothing more imo

G Deuce 12-07-06 12:31 AM

I hate threads like this, for the simple reason on how can you say that a young rapper is overrated, when his rhyme shceme was before his time when he died. Can you imagine how much Tupac could have improved over the years? The guy wasnt even in his prime.

Tha .Q 12-07-06 05:19 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by G Deuce
I hate threads like this, for the simple reason on how can you say that a young rapper is overrated, when his rhyme shceme was before his time when he died. Can you imagine how much Tupac could have improved over the years? The guy wasnt even in his prime.



^^Same with Big





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Mad Dog 12-07-06 05:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha_Q
PS

Sales don't mean shit


PS 2...No one said I'd be better than BIG...they said the best SINCE Pac and BIG.











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talking to yourself in your sleep again Q?

but hang on...wasn't Jay-Z voted the best rapper on allhiphop.com like, a month ago? :huh:

Mad Dog 12-07-06 05:36 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mindstate
^^^have u even heard any of his shit besides loyal 2 the game????
everybody acts like just cuz loyal 2 the game was wack its all wack
go and hit up Until The End of Time...or Better Dayz..or Still I Rise
i bet you one million bucks u'll change ur mind

p.s we well never know what pac would of spit to or not
he didnt care bout beats..if u want proof go listen to the original versions
if people didnt change nuthin bout his unreleased shit ya'll be bitchin bout that, just cuz pac aint around on tv supporting it..goin round doing commercials and theres no promotion what so ever people call his new shit "trash"


Werd

Pac himself hasn't made a track since 1996...it's the production side and constant remixing old classics that have gradually bought down his popularity...

La Cosa Nostra 12-07-06 06:35 AM

Jay Z hell to the fucken yeah..Hes over-rated as fuck...

Tupac aint over-rated though, thats naieve bullshit whoever says that......

Tha .Q 12-07-06 11:43 AM

^^^I guess it's in the eye of the beholder...

I don't think Pac is overrated...But, I think people have takin this "Pac is God" thing too much...esp. with all the "he's not dead" talk.





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Cola 12-07-06 11:55 AM

u jack ass Q....the "pac aint dead talk" stimulated beceause Pac basically made it up....then a bnuch of crazy ass fans fought every which way to make something equal 7.....only a complete dipshit would have belivied that shit.....

so....i'm becoming to the conclusion, that your an assfuck, and that you dont deserve to live....

as far as this pac shit...

WHEN PAC WAS.....ALIVE......HE WAS THE GREATEST...

anything after pac died doesn't count, sure he rapped, but he didn't see any of the production other than that song "changes"...which might i add is one of the greatest songs of all time......soooooo

until the next time some dick face wants to blurt out un-rationalized comments....keep good...and dont let Q put his fingers in ya!

-im out-

Player-X415 12-07-06 12:17 PM

pretty hoes come a dime a dozen but i bet u fucked yo cousin

Tha .Q 12-07-06 12:36 PM

Tha Don of__

^When you learn to voice an opinion without sounding like a complete moron, then come speak to me. Until then, you're on ignore.

:)

Have a shitty day.




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~Tony Green~ 12-07-06 03:33 PM

Jay-z hell yeah Pac hell no

Dufflebag Boy 12-07-06 03:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mad Dog
Werd

Pac himself hasn't made a track since 1996...it's the production side and constant remixing old classics that have gradually bought down his popularity...


yea but his old tracks aint classics...he didnt make every song a california love or dear mama..trust me i'll show u some originals too his songs
bet u 1 million bucks people be like "oh maybe its good they did redo the production" lol pac was NOT a perfectionist...all the other hit songs he came out wit when he was alive sounded good cuz the producers made it sound good...he just spit his soul inta it...he just pre-spit his shit for producers ta keep doing their thing after he's long gone...people just dont like it cuz pac aint around for approval

Maleficent 12-07-06 03:45 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Jay Z hell to the fucken yeah..Hes over-rated as fuck...

Tupac aint over-rated though, thats naieve bullshit whoever says that......



Well here in the States he is the most overrated emcee of all time.

Sir Smash'Alot 12-07-06 03:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Serb
sales mean alot.


and sales are differnet when you get that high up as they did.

you telling me the millions they sold were all followers?

yeah okay their buds. Sales is just a con and proof that these artists deserve the respect.

50 cent has sold as much as they have.

point?

Shear Kaughn 12-07-06 04:47 PM

tupac to me is a bit overated....hes cool and all..but in hip hop and any other genre of music. there is no such thing as "the best" or "the worst".

now on the other hand....there may be the best rapper to you...or the worst rapper to you...but its not in stone anywhere

personally i like jay-z...and i like tupac...but they aren't my favorite rappers...so for me myself..its safe to say they are overated

La Cosa Nostra 12-07-06 11:31 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Maleficent
Well here in the States he is the most overrated emcee of all time.

Nah dude..

Real heads know why pac gets so much respect... If you dont, your naieve... straight up.

Magic5 12-08-06 09:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir Smash'Alot
Q must be up there with Jay and Tupac in that case.


LMAO. Damn, game over to JTR's argument.

Magic5 12-08-06 09:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha_Q
Dip shit...as this thread illustrates, OPINIONS are like ASSHOLES.


Now go get fucked in yours.



C-YA



:hump: :thumbup:



PS. After I'm done revolutionizing rap, I'll be sure to send you a post card from where I'm 150% sure your lilly ass won't be.






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Yeah, you're getting there so fast and all. How's that record label going that you started? Oh, wait. My bust. I forgot that it died like, a week after you paid to start it. Shut the fuck up. You're going nowhere.


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