Im bout to shut this nigga NoSkillz down RIGHT NOW!
 

So you think Jeezy and Wayne are the best rappers ever, eh?

Post up a line from any of them wackfucks and I'll post up a line from 2 of my favorite rappers
JR Writer or Joe Budden
go ahead

i dont get u...ur callin me out for havin a opinion huh?
wow...thats weak

Exactly how is it "weak"?
Nigga they ARE your favorite rappers right?
You DO think they are the "best ever", right?
Then you should state why you THINK they are the best.

lmfaofdjbwregkj

Because posting a few lines will certainly show who's better.

haha, i jus noticed who you were Zone...i know u nigga!

Nigga you know what level a rapper is on by postin up his lines
post up a Mike Jones line and its like

"you see this grill up in my mouth it shine like a light bulb!!"

but you post up a JR Writer line and its like

"when its prime time, biter i grind mine
shine blind, wrist brighter then Eisten
couple OG's thats ridin that 5 9
for an oz they'll wipe out ya time line"

or a joe budden line is like

"Fiends treat the hood like its saw part 2 cause they just lookin for needles"

and etc etc

i really dont care anymore. but yo...u wanted to collab wit my cuzzo a while back

and who is your cousin?

I doubt you could post a Tupac line that could rival those two but you can't sit here and tell me that makes him less of an artist. Come on I thought us RV heads realized that text and music are totally different things YEARS ago...

my cuzzo is Blk*Cty...a rapper nigga from tha D too

for 1, Im not a rv head.. Im not a rb head
Im not no internet head AT ALL, Im just a nigga that so happens to be on the internet on a somewhat regular basis

and dope lines are dope lines rather you hear them OR read them
Tupac didnt have dope lines


and word @ Blk City.. that nigga bullshittin... I had forgot all about collabi
if he still tryin to tho, Im down

oh werd. well dude had to get anotha myspace and shit a lil while back. i dont even know dat shit.

...point still tho...Jeezy and Weezy are the best *weezy more tho*

Ohhhhhh I forgot that now hip-hop is 100% lyrics and that's the only way to tell if a song is good. My bad.

Not only is it lyrics its also a dope ass rhyme scheme and a tight ass flow too
And the ability to ATLEAST change up styles atleast ONCE
something I dont believe Tupac EVER did now that I think about it
hmmm

Rhyme skills are one thing, music making is another, and putting the two together is another. I can't fucking stand JR's voice so I don't listen to him, meaning I can't speak on him, but in terms of Joe, he just doesn't keep a listener engaged very well. The nigga can rhyme when he rhymes, he can make good music when he does that, but I haven't really heard him put the two together.

yeah Jr's got some nice music..but the only song i can really bump that he made was like Grill Em' the rest are just YO MAN CHECK THIS LINE OUT type of tracks like mixtape ordeals thats what his cd reminded me...a hyped up mixtape...but Jae Millz can spit i like him more.........as for Joe Budden..he can outrap about 99 percent of the commercial rappers in the game

wait
pause
you like GRILL EM but you dont like any of his other shit?!
SMH
HIP HOP IS DEAD!!!!

How did Tupac not have dope lines? Just cuz they weren't quotables with wittyness or wordplay/metaphors doesn't discredit his lines. There's not a single quotable in You Never Know by Immortal Technique but that's still a fucking dope song... There's nothing you'd consider a "dope line" in Dance With The Devil but that's a dope song too... Diabolic has some of the illest lines i've ever heard

"I show no 'cum-passion' like a straight faced orgasm " - Diabolic
"Can't freestyle, you're screwed off the top like bottle caps" - Diabolic

But... Diabolic doesn't make better music then half the cats in the industry.

Badazing

But lets go by your logic of what makes a rapper better. So if I were to say CopyWrite was my favorite rapper, and quote his lines like

"I creep low with the freak ho's, honest bitch
I got a dick a giraffe couldn't deep throat"

"7/8 never fake
Leave you in the middle of nowhere like the letter H"

I doubt you can find lines from JR or Budden better then that...

HipHop's not all about lyrics, you're right but lyrics is a part of it. Lyrics/flow/delivery/enojoyment/beat/hook/voice/catchyness basically makes a song. Jeezy can certainly have a catchy hook...im not denying he's good..but he's NOT the best in ANY of those categories. Weezy has a nice flow, but he doesn't have the best flow either. To me, each section is broken down nah mean...Lyrics has like 3 subsections, even more. Flow too...etc. you won't b able 2 tell who'se the single, or the best two rappers period. They might b the best in a certain category in rap...

But weezy and Jeezy aren't best in any category for me...the nigga with the most all roundness, could b cats like Joe Budden...but he falls in some categories..that's why theres a million reasons why you could say any1 is the best when he the best in a CERTAIN part of rap.

Zone said JR and Buddens...JR is tight lyrically and flow wise...howeverr his hooks ren't catchy enough, and the other categories he falls in the middle he's not the best at enoyment for example...

Buddens, he could be all round..def one of the gr8est..and I had the pleasure of meeting and a quick free with him...

So my take on it is that you can't rlly decide an all round best ya figgadig...but weezy and jeezy don't fall top in any of those categories...

"I get rid of white.. treys, pounds, O's, bricks, shit... I was raised around stoves
Watch brown froze.. it astound hoes... and fuck the internet, all my girls downloads"

"im the shit, another baller with toast
Think you're too cool, imma put it all in ya coat
so you better act frogish or float
cause the only thing leapin is ya voice with that frog in ya throat"

"i am made, queer
keep me an eight near
that'll squeeze and leave ya ass deeper than Shakespear"

"Give the mac some credit.. I been had this leverage
SHITTIN ON NIGGAS LIKE I HAD A NASTY FETISH!"

be fa real, niggas aint fuckin with jr writer

Hey Zone.....I was agreeing with ya about this, but I never really listened to JR. I can say it's true about Joe Budden cause he's been in my top five for a long time, but those couple of lines that you just posted weren't really all that great. I'm guessing they're JR lines cause I never heard them before......I guess I got some more listening to do...lol


But yeah, Jeezy and Weezy are like one level above Mike Jones to me. I really can't stand either of them most of the time, but every once in a while they'll do something that suprises me.

A good song is different from a good line

ANYBODY can come up with a good line if he wants
but do I want my song to be remembered? Or my line?
DO i want 5 seconds of a song to be hot? or all 3-5 minutes? seriously zone..

And weezy and jeezy suck they both fall off topic to the same boring drug dealing shit

joe is def better then jr writer though

and four jeezys and four weezys all in one x2.

16 bars that all go together, and all have a purpose > 8 set-ups, and 8 punchlines.

Big L > Every other rapper in history

Prove me wrong

^^i'd ssay 1 of the best definitelly...but sayin THE best can b argued..but not proved

Fucking word.

I can say Brother Ali is the most poetically/lyrically dope rapper I've ever heard in my life, but I'd be extremely hesitant to call him the best rapper ever. I have trouble coming up with a top 10 list, fuck trying to narrow it down to one, some rappers aren't even comparable to others. Like, how the fuck do you compare Jay-Z and Murs?

You can't. *shrugs*

Hes a pretty well rounded rapper

but he doesnt have nearly enough material to be the best

Murs is completely ass.
and all of JR's tracks arent just set ups and punchlines
sometimes they're ALL punchlines..
like fa real
but he also rap about some shit with content and he STILL manages to throw punchlines in their that are still revelant.

you know who else is dope

Decompoze

word

i'm going to say this as simply as possible if it hasn't been said. opinion is opinion. beauty is in the eye of the beholder, even when it comes to music.

my god......the overwhelming retardedness in this thread....

i think i just got stupider...


^^^ o my god...yes i did

bull shit it was twelve o clock on a friday night and you arguing with thirteen yr. olds about how wack young jeezy is,On the fuckin interenet.. your fuckin nerdcore e rapper that'ss all you'll ever be,you and the bannana split clique

The thing is.. when you live in the life of Zone Out you do fun shit every single day. So friday is just another day in the week to me.
I dont HAVE to go out EVERY single weekend.. whY? because I dont want to.
Plus I have this thing called a job that I do to get money.. I dont know if you know what that is or not but anyway.. I was tired.

And Im still waitin on you to come to Detroit like you said we was
What happened?
You said you was gonna hit me up when you got into town

well only if i can come to your crib and play on the internet

yeah
matter fact
when you come you can chill under my basement

lol @ chino xl completely getting slept on when it comes to punchlines

every song on "i told you so" is quotable after quotable

Man fuck y'all, Ron Artest got more punchlines than half the wack ass muthafukkaz y'all talkin bout.

^^ Lol.............