2pac, best rappa dat ever lived?
 

I think 2pac is da greatest rappa eva bcuz i been istenin 2 him since he joined digital underground,and i got all his CD's and i gotta say dat he is legendary and alwayz will b da best.

lol, i don't think so, he's not even in my top 25 list, but to each his own, do your thing

Not even close to being the best, but rock on anyway.

arguably so.....definetly ONE of the best.....but to THE BEST in something means a whole shitload.....i dont think so.....maybe in his time but not of all time no

No.....

who is betta than pac, honestly?

not in top 25 of all time? would be interesting to see your list...

imo, i think pac is top 5 of all time. no doubt.

-tengo

wh's better than pac? lol

Eminem
Proof
Aesop Rock
Slug
Sage Francis
Canibal Ox
Canibus
basically everyone on definitive jux
and about 30 other people

Eminem ???????? Proof ??????????????

i mean i like them both, but all eminem does is bitch about his family. Proof's shit is allright, but compared to Pac he is crap. and you said 'about 30 other people'

drugs are bad.

-tengo

i'm not gunna argue with you, i have my opinion, you ave yours, i could list more but it's not worth my time

nigga Proof is better than 2pac fuck 2pac that nigga aint shit but another nigga tellin sad story on every song

I'm tired of seein this thread...everyone obviously has different opinionz bout Pac. I didn't really kno Pac till afta he died. He'z nice...but in my opinion...not da best. Sayin who da best iz would take forever since there are still underground rapperz who are better than the shitty artistz out now...

EM will never be better than pac and neither will proofs punk ass

pac had no lyrical skill, he was just deep, and that doesn't qualify you as good, he was more of a poet than a rapper in my mind

2pac is black thats why u think his da greastest rapper...........
EMINEM is a phat rapper along wid NAS.....................
Come on lads u gota agree...............

its hard 2 say who the best ever is with so many mcs havin different skillz but pac would be in the top 5

Em iz phat...Nas iz phat...Tupac iz not declared the best since he'z black...you're 2 out of 3...

2 answer ur question..as a lyricist..i respect pac..he had his own style..he had a very basic scheme but in his basic scheme he described greatly..Pac was more of a strait foward rhymer..in my opinion..7 day theory and Me against the world was his best shit..but 2 anser ur question...no..pac is not the greatest..theres many heads out there that overpasses pac's greatness




this list is trash..eminem??..WHAT..all he does is bicth bout everything with his whiny annoying voice..Canibus..No..his new shit is hot tho..rip the jacker..i recomend that shit..proof..helll naw..everyone else prolly close..maybe better than Pac..

and 2 the cat that sed eminem & Nas is phat...u need 2 eat shit..Nas..is nothing..illmatic and stillmatic are the only 2 good albums he dropped..Em??come'on..next thing u gon say is that u neva heard of Az..Em is garbage as far as i concerned..he got destroyed by Juice..

em is one of the coldest of all time, listen to his cd infinite, and tell me pac is better

Wasn't it in the battle against Juice when Eminem started making up words?

shut da fuck up u homosexual..u prolly listenin 2 b2k and will smith ya dumb fag got no taste in music i mean check ur avata image haha pathetec just get out this thread ya lil kim wanna-be

biggie is the greatest now mods can u plz closed dis useless thread plz

Em is definatly better than 2PAC, i personally dont like 2PAC but he is respectable and i would have him in the top 15-20 of all time

u cant close a discussion on whos the greatest rapper with biggie

BIGGIE IS A FAKE FAT FUCC,MAYN P.DIDDY IS EVEN BETTA THAN BIGGIE AND DATZ SAD

lmao, i don't even listen to r&b music...man you are immature as hell, you get mad because someone doesn't like the same thing you do? man, you're not even worth gettin mad over, grow up kid

^^ I wouldn't respect him with the title of "man" in the address......

yea, you're right, but i won't bother disrespecting him ,though he disrespected me, not worth getting upset about, he just needs to get his mind right

MuhThugga isnt dark in ur closet??oh i see ur found ur soul mate one tha dude with tha matrix avata lol u 2 dumb queers prolly cyberin all night long or some shit haha fuckin GAY

^fag
to answer the question no i don't think he is the best ever
there are many artists with better lyrics but he had his own style and way of doing it....the 'thug' style has had it's day as well...
his delivery though and story telling is one of the best ever
for me his lyrics and scheme were a bit too basic to crown him the king of rap....
also the fact he was killed has contributed to his legendary status

aight lets look at da facts. he was a sick rapper. then he 'died' now u cant go to ne hip hop place w/o hearin about fuckin tupac i dont think he's the best , but one of the best

*almost shitz himself laughin*

Biggie will NEVER be the best. Hell...Biggie only had a FEW good hitz. the stuff he said wuz good...but rap-wise...um...no.

i'm getting my avatar talked about by a guy witha crash bandicoot avy? lol, whatever man, go let your balls drop before you talk shit little man

as far as the bein good pac was good. He was deep as hell. But def. not the greatEST. You guys figure that one out, it's not too hard.

...aiight now i see why people say this topic is played on this site....

i think so yes he is one of the best... if not the best to ever rap.

wow, this thread gets more interesting every time i read it.

you biting fuck, ever tried coming up with your own ideas? this is the most played topic in hip-hop. why dont you just make a thread and call it "the pointless debate thread"?

herbs, herbs, everywhere.

This is a typical thread and all, that is mostly played out enough as it is. But you truly can't say Pac isn't one of the top 3 ever to touch a microphone. The guy may have came with simplistic lyrics and speech but what he spoke was true in his world and most. He didnt rap about being a gangster and then wore guppy clothes and lived outside the hood. 2Pac rhymed about gangster shit because he was one and showed he was one. He was the real deal. We got all these lil niggas rappin now a days named eminem and nas and 50 cent. Fuck all of them. They are all 'wankstas'. Think about it. 50 and eminem and nas all think theyre hard, but most of them sleep in fear because they fear death itself. Pac looked at death and pissed death off even more. He was not afraid to speak his mind lyrically or publicly. While all these other junk rappers are going down hill. I mean even Snoop is a narc. The Rap world is going down hill and Dre is trying to do everything to save it by bringing up lame ass lyricist like 50. Eminem is a joke and was a gimmick from the start to draw a white crowd. The game is almost over with. It is dieing out no matter how many of us feel it isnt. 2Pac was real and he made RAP what it is today a long with NWA and Christopher Wallace. Biggie cant be held higher than Pac though, Pac taught Biggie mostly how to rap than anything. They was close but Puffy aint got shit on neither of em. NWA Pac and BIG. Greatest rappers of all time. It isnt fact, its statistical facts. Album Sales. Anual Grossings. Money wise for all you idiots who dont understand the business ethics of the world. This thread is over and done with though. So close it.

^^^Yes I can, pac was wack. Biggie was better then him.

But I can name like 50 MC's who are better then them...

I'll just keep listing till my finers get tired.

Chino XL
Rass Kass
Aesop Rock
Slug
Abilities
Krs One << Ya'll sleep on him
ToneDeff
Sage Francis
Immortal Technique
Copywrite
Jakki Da Mota Mouth
Eyedea
Xzibit
C-Ray Walz
Pack FM
Vakill
Kool G Rap
Ill Bill

and the list goes on and on...

*shrugs* You all need to learn about rap, what you know is nothing.

anyone bashing on tupac for one STFU pac delivery is better than 90 percent of rapper I've ever heard and I listen to everything from commerical rap to back packer rap. Second is emotion is UNMATCHED in rap though he may not have been the best lyricist of all time just off his delivery and emotion made him better than alot of rappers. It wasn't like his lyrics were garbage ether you ever listen to him like really listened to him you would know what I'm talking about. Stop listening to his commerical singles and cop one his albums and give it a good listen you would see what I'm talking about.

BTW I don't think he's the best rapper ever. I don't think there is a such thing.

and also rap is not just lyrics it's flow and delivery too. it's a balance