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Terumoto 09-09-05 10:13 AM

Im sick of battle DQers and people that get good votes removed.

Swaying isnt shit. The only people that give a fuck are wack. If two decent heads had a battle, there probably wouldnt be any swaying because decent heads arent underhanded with the IMing for votes and so on.

And as if strobe really gives a fuck or cares about whiney kids. If someone comes along and says hey this guy was swaying with a link to a thread about the battle, hes obviously not gonna go further into it and investigate your circumstances. Hes just gonna give the whiner the win. Can you seriously imagine strobe replying with like "I see your point. But seeing as I have so much time, i'd like to really study your reputations on the site, the verses, and the votes to see how deep this case really goes." Of course not. strobe would sooner post pics of himself.

Daubs 09-09-05 11:24 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by F.oo
Unlike you guys, I'm too fuckin' lazy to type.

Mimesis is right..

..and that is word.

............................

word.

Indeph 09-09-05 12:50 PM

I often vote against mimesis to make his slightly flawed record worse. I love seeing a hero fall. :)

Magic5 09-09-05 02:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by One Man Band
Im sick of battle DQers and people that get good votes removed.

Swaying isnt shit. The only people that give a fuck are wack. If two decent heads had a battle, there probably wouldnt be any swaying because decent heads arent underhanded with the IMing for votes and so on.

And as if strobe really gives a fuck or cares about whiney kids. If someone comes along and says hey this guy was swaying with a link to a thread about the battle, hes obviously not gonna go further into it and investigate your circumstances. Hes just gonna give the whiner the win. Can you seriously imagine strobe replying with like "I see your point. But seeing as I have so much time, i'd like to really study your reputations on the site, the verses, and the votes to see how deep this case really goes." Of course not. strobe would sooner post pics of himself.


Lmao.

I get your point and shit.

It's just retarded I have to convince him to open the battle up when all Deranged did was cry like a bitch to him.

Whatever, sooner or later I really don't see how he can't open it back up.

J. Luth 09-09-05 03:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by -Indeph-
I often vote against mimesis to make his slightly flawed record worse. I love seeing a hero fall. :)

lmao.....


but yea, what a loser for DQ'in' you. maybe if it's like a herb, that you kno you killed, and you want shit done quick then maybe. but wtf @ doin' that to someone who would be a tough competitor to you.... It's like I had L.I. in a topical battle long ass time ago, and L.I. on eof the best topically, he went over by 20 lines. Did I DQ him? no... cuz I wanted to try and beat him fair and square, even if he did go over....... i mean only pussies try to cheat their way to wins.... I mean wtf Swayin' ain't even somethin' against the rules, and him PMin' for you to Get DQ'd, jus says he was afraid you'd win, and he had to be a bitch and pull a cali. faggot....... nuff said.....

Deranged 09-09-05 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
Here's some backround information to why I want to know what you think..

I made an open callout, Deranged responded, I set up a battle. We both posted verses. First, Status, a guy who has never liked me came in and voted against me. Then, Yvonne, who has voted against me in my last two consecutive battles but doesn't seem to vote on anybody elses, comes in and votes against me. Then, I get a few pms from people saying they're blacklisted, so then I'm like.. this Deranged dude is a complete bitch.

So, I made a "beef" thread.. saying this dude was a bitch. In the thread I said his verse was complete garbage.. then explained why. Then, I said something along the lines of "if you're reading this, please vote.. I would like something honest going in here.."

Then, today I get on and see that I got DQed.. under the basis of "swaying."

Now, my question -

Is that DQ legitimate? The last time I checked the Front Lines rules (which was about 10 minutes ago) it doesn't mention anything about "swaying" or saying the other dude's verse sucked in another forum. And, considering it was in a the Beef Thread forum, what should I have said? Somehow I don't think this would have worked too well, "This dude is a bitch.. but props on that tight ass verse you posted." Fuck no. I thought the verse sucked, so I said it.

I alread pmed strobe, but has anybody else on here been DQed from a battle in Front Lines (not a league or shit like that) on the basis of swaying? Regardless of whether or not you have.. is that a legitimate way to get a win/DQ? Because, the way I see it.. I didn't break any rules in either forum. In Front Lines it doesn't say I can't say the other dude's verse was gay. In Beef Threads.. I "beefed."

I think it's complete bullshit.



Look at the this..I get online..and see Memisis bitching about something...shit..this is all you like to do huh mim?Ite...the LL rules or Beef thread rules doesn't say anything about "swaying" speccifically..It still says "no battle advertising".Despite it being a beef thread..you still can't go talking about the battle while it's still going.Regardless though,even if doesn't say it in the rules..there is a little something called common sense..use it sometime.And ur post was extreme swaying.If you had just said "his verse was bullshit" or something small like that.Then there wouldn't be any problems.But...being the ass you are..you went and broke down EVERY one of my lines.And described it in excruciating detail.While ripping on it.Plus you made up some bogus story about me blacklisting people.And to top it...you went and asked people for votes.Yea..you did say "honest votes"(lol..w/e).But you also said you'd RTF on the vote.PM'n for votes is illegal..and what you did was not to different.You still asked for votes.And how ironic...that 3 hours after you made that thread..2 votes came flying outta the blue.It takes me like 2 days to get 2 votes nowadays..and you get it in 3 hours after that one thread.I ain't tryna say that Ysdat/hotshh! dickride you.But if it wasn't for that thread..they wouldn't have seen that shit.And they must of seen ur swaying where u ripped my verse.So they approached the battle with the mindset..of my verse being "ass"..due to ur post.When really..they should come in battle with a clean mind...Now they might come in here saying "ooh..sHut uP sOn..I aIn;t D/r!"But the thing is..there is no way to prove it.Neither of them vote in the FL battles reguraly.So you gonna tell me it's a coincidence that they decide to vote on a battle just like that?Whether or not they votes honestly or w/e..that's not the point..the point is..that they voted from seeing the thread where u swayed.

"Somehow I don't think this would have worked too well, "This dude is a bitch.. but props on that tight ass verse you posted."

^^if that is the only way you can diss....then you must really suck..That's all.Say "i'ma bitch/faggot/hoe/slut/maggot..or blah-blah-blah"..w/e...but Just don't mention the verse.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
Dude like, complimented me.

He's like "what kind of vet.."

..I never said I was a vet.. he just boosts me up.

And then he starts rambling on about my battle with 9th Degree.. which I won. And then starts talking about my name.. which EVERY nameplay has been used on me.. then to top it off he dropped a cool/hot line. VERY CREATIVE.

Fucking wack peice of shit.


I might as well.....

1-I said "wat kinda vet"...cuz on this site,you are veiwed as a vet by many.I never said you said it yourself.
2-Yes..you won the battle with 9th degree.Don't you think I would know that you dumb fuck?I said.you can't 'EVEN' beat em str8.meaning..you can't beat someone evenly.Cuz if that line went over ur head..then u stupid for real.
3-Nameplay is played...gimme a link to where it's been used.
4-LMAO!!..how can u even rip on that hot/cool line.It was based of your user title...yea..the same user title you went and changed like a bitch.

So to answer ur question...extreme swaying..like what you did..is a legitamate way to get DQ'd.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
The point is, no where in any part of this site does it say "no swaying."
.



yes it does dumbass.The anything goes forum says no swaying
http://community.rapverse.com/showthread.php?t=165131
"Battle rules still apply. No posting links to battles and no posting comments about a battle until it is complete to discourage swaying"
..apperantly that^^ needs to be put in LL/FL/and beef forums for the stupid people like you.And like I said...common sense should tell you not to do sway.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Thassarap
i agree, that's bullshit
i also think the minimum lines rule is fucked up...i dont see whats wrong with makin a 1-2 punch battle, but apparently some1 does...its not like its cheating or sumthin


Your just agreeing with him so you can have a place to protest on the 6-line minimum rule cuz the one you made got closed.Go ask strobe why he made that rule.Don't come here throwing a fit about it cuz no one gives a fuck.Completly pointless post here.No hate..but true.


Quote:
Originally Posted by It's SPuL!
lmao.....

but yea, what a loser for DQ'in' you. maybe if it's like a herb, that you kno you killed, and you want shit done quick then maybe. but wtf @ doin' that to someone who would be a tough competitor to you.... It's like I had L.I. in a topical battle long ass time ago, and L.I. on eof the best topically, he went over by 20 lines. Did I DQ him? no... cuz I wanted to try and beat him fair and square, even if he did go over....... i mean only pussies try to cheat their way to wins.... I mean wtf Swayin' ain't even somethin' against the rules, and him PMin' for you to Get DQ'd, jus says he was afraid you'd win, and he had to be a bitch and pull a cali. faggot....... nuff said.....


Line differnce is less scarce from what memisis did.He swayed for votes extremely..and asked for votes in one thread.That will inevitably change the tides in battles.I'm afraid he'd win?

1-Look at the battle thread.Soon as 2 votes came in...memisis was the first to bitch about it.
2-I made a line rippin on his user title..he went and changed it.
3-AND...the polls were 2-0..memesis still had it 0-0 in his sig.
4-Then..of cource..he swayed.

So if that isn't a man scared of a loss..then what is?


Quote:
Originally Posted by Daubs
............................

word.


Quote:
Originally Posted by F.oo
Unlike you guys, I'm too fuckin' lazy to type.

Mimesis is right..

..and that is word.


Quote:
Originally Posted by Fatal Beam
Lmao Who DQ's Battles That's Gay Shit, Mimesis I'm With You On This One Hommie!


Quote:
Originally Posted by LyricalMa$tamind
hes right........i checked dat shit out n u owned him hands down
niggaz b hatin
dat nigga deranged voted against me in one of mah battles too


Now....reputation is something that plays a big role on this site.And these posts above confirm it.Almost everyone else here posted something reasonable.They probably ain't even read the 1st post or nothing.No hate to none of them..but i gotta say it.Cuz tell me...if it was the other way...if I swayed..and u was ahead of the battle 2-0 n shit.And you got me dq'd..I made this thread ... would the support be the same?No..it wouldn't.Cuz you got ur big posts..nice record..been here long time..a mod of PLL n KLL..so why would people disagree with you..and take the side of someone who isn't popular here.ANd i really hope this part doesn't go over anyone's head.

Edit-This lryical mastermind dude(guy who posted after me here) is the biggest fag here...cuz his post blatanly stated his motives for defending you.Cuz I refused to be dickrider and vote honestly in battles...so I voted against him in one of his battles.And he got the nerve to say I be hating?What a bitch.

Now memisis..I know you might respond to this.But if you do...u give me something worthy of replying back with.If not..then I'm not gonna bother with you anymore.

LyricalMa$tamind 09-09-05 06:13 PM

hes right........i checked dat shit out n u owned him hands down
niggaz b hatin
dat nigga deranged voted against me in one of mah battles too

coldBLooD'd 09-09-05 06:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deranged
.Cuz tell me...if it was the other way...if I swayed..and u was ahead of the battle 2-0 n shit.And you got me dq'd..I made this thread ... would the support be the same?No..it wouldn't.Cuz you got ur big posts..nice record..been here long time..a mod of PLL n KLL..so why would people disagree with you..and take the side of someone who isn't popular here.ANd i really hope this part doesn't go over anyone's head.



True...Cuz alotta ppl on here work in circles.They have a tight nit group and heavy influence on other members,but for who knows what reason.

I agree with deranged,But at tha same time...Why would you threatin ta have votes removed if they dont return tha favor?

prolly tha same reason Memisis posted that thread about that battle,jus tah get sum votes,Right!

AnyWayz I get ur point....Get ur post count up ta 2000+ and you'll get that same respect tha others get! :thumbup:


An this is juss a site like many others.....so Dont Take it serious,Juss sit back an have fun!

J. Luth 09-09-05 06:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deranged



Line differnce is less scarce from what memisis did.He swayed for votes extremely..and asked for votes in one thread.That will inevitably change the tides in battles.I'm afraid he'd win?

1-Look at the battle thread.Soon as 2 votes came in...memisis was the first to bitch about it.
2-I made a line rippin on his user title..he went and changed it.
3-AND...the polls were 2-0..memesis still had it 0-0 in his sig.
4-Then..of cource..he swayed.

So if that isn't a man scared of a loss..then what is?



No, the biggest thing to show you're scared of a loss, is askin' for A DQ. jus STFU you can't even make good points..... shit a line difference of 20+ lines favors the offender more than the "supposed" swaying. Seriously, stop bein' a pussy. and if you were NOT scared of losin', then why the fuck would you get it closed kid? did anyone say "Yea, mimesis, I am going to vote for you. fuck that faggot." NO!!! Nobody said that, so why the fuck do you need to close it? lmao that's such a pussy thing to do... and fuckin' stupid too. LEarn how to beat someone wit your skills NOT your wackness to try to gain wins cheaply.. Also, I doubt he actually said "GO vote for ME" me bein' the key word....... Or I don't kno yet, if he even said "GO vote on that battle"........ seriously, you're a bitch who was afraid he'd lose and had to DQ someone to try and save his "precious" undefeated record. pussy....

Deranged 09-09-05 06:42 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by coldBLooD'd
True...Cuz alotta ppl on here work in circles.They have a tight nit group and heavy influence on other members,but for who knows what reason.

I agree with deranged,But at tha same time...Why would you threatin ta have votes removed if they dont return tha favor?

prolly tha same reason Memisis posted that thread about that battle,jus tah get sum votes,Right!

AnyWayz I get ur point....Get ur post count up ta 2000+ and you'll get that same respect tha others get! :thumbup:


An this is juss a site like many others.....so Dont Take it serious,Juss sit back an have fun!


Lmao...nah man....it's just a threat I make so I can git some battles closed...that all....And wat memisis did was against the rules.."asking for RTF votes or this is removed" after you voted on someone else's battle is still OK by the rules.Advertising ur battle in LL forum is illegal.

And yea...I know i'm sopposed to have fun...but it still pissed me off when people wanna act like prima donna and make threads like this...

J. Luth 09-09-05 06:43 PM

yo Deranged, let's battle yo. :)

Magic5 09-09-05 06:52 PM

I just read the part about swaying.. cause that's all that matters to me..

Quote:
Originally Posted by Deranged
yes it does dumbass.The anything goes forum says no swaying
http://community.rapverse.com/showthread.php?t=165131


TOO BAD I NEVER POSTED IN THE ANYTHING GOES FORUM.

I could say that there is a rule in Crews And Collaborations about how getting people who don't like your opponent to vote is against the rules.. but it wouldn't fucking apply to you either.

Anything Goes is irrevelant.

Deranged 09-09-05 06:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by It's SPuL!
No, the biggest thing to show you're scared of a loss, is askin' for A DQ. jus STFU you can't even make good points..... shit a line difference of 20+ lines favors the offender more than the "supposed" swaying. Seriously, stop bein' a pussy. and if you were NOT scared of losin', then why the fuck would you get it closed kid? did anyone say "Yea, mimesis, I am going to vote for you. fuck that faggot." NO!!! Nobody said that, so why the fuck do you need to close it? lmao that's such a pussy thing to do... and fuckin' stupid too. LEarn how to beat someone wit your skills NOT your wackness to try to gain wins cheaply.. Also, I doubt he actually said "GO vote for ME" me bein' the key word....... Or I don't kno yet, if he even said "GO vote on that battle"........ seriously, you're a bitch who was afraid he'd lose and had to DQ someone to try and save his "precious" undefeated record. pussy....



It isn't "sopposed" swaying.It is blatant swaying.And 20+ lines isn't much..esspecially for a topical.I seen battles in other sites like that..and it played no factor.All the real cats know it's quality over quantity.If I was really scared of losing..and wanted to keep my undefeated record..then I woulda done what memisis did.I would have made a beef thread swaying and asking for votes...and I woulda tried all I could to weaken the strenght of personals by changing something like..I dunno...my USER TITLE?I feel like I'm repeating myself here now.Are you stupid as well?YOu saying that I'm the bitch cuz I dq'd a battle...but look at the other post...

memisis..
1-Look at the battle thread.Soon as 2 votes came in...memisis was the first to bitch about it.
2-I made a line rippin on his user title..he went and changed it.
3-AND...the polls were 2-0..memesis still had it 0-0 in his sig.
4-Then..of cource..he swayed.

^^had to repeat the other post for the ignorant -_-

vs

deranged..
gettin a battle DQ'd.

It's 4 against one.And if it was you..don't even front like you would have kept the battle going.He sways for votes..and then votes in his favor come flying in ..in 3 hours.What'm I sopposed to think?When I first saw the thread..I didn't immediately say "ooh..yea..I gotta him DQ'd!!!".No...it wasn't like that.And you claim you don't even know if he said "GO vote on that battle"?That says it all..you didn't even read that thread..therefore..you don't fully know the details of this whole situation.And tell me...when is someone gonna say "Yea, mimesis, I am going to vote for you. fuck that faggot".U aswell..need to use common sense.I ain't saying the voters were stupid.Like they would go in a thread and blatantly say that shit?Make some sense.Don't just come responding to me with bullshit like that.

Deranged 09-09-05 06:54 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by It's SPuL!
yo Deranged, let's battle yo. :)



sure set-it up....

Magic5 09-09-05 06:54 PM

Oh, and LMFAO @ common sense?

When was I told I should ASSUME rules that aren't written down in the forums I posted in.. should still apply to my battle? Should I assume I can't post up pictures of swiss cheese in my battles too.. sense it's not posted anywhere..

Fuck all of your bullshit.

It's not common sense to not talk about how bad the other dude's verse was in Beef Threads.


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