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Dex 11-30-05 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
It's kind of difficult for you to see past your own culture. #1...Ur from the UK so your perspective on American Racism is NOT going to be an enlightened as if you lived here. #2...I presume you're white which gives you yet another perspective. Therefore, I'mma leave it alone. Having a CHIP on ones shoulder and realizing that certain words are HISTORICALLY DEGRADING to black people are 2 entirely dfferent things. I WILL NEVER accept being called a NIGGER by a white person, EVER. I will NEVER accept being called a porch MONKEY or an APE by a white person, EVER. It's wrong and whoever uses those terms need to reconsider their way of thinking.



I accept that and so does eveyone but noone has been called an ape, a monkey, a nigger or anything. All that has happened is someone said ape-like. He maybe never thought about wat other people were gonna think but if we did that every time we were gonna post it would be boring. No offence was meant to be made, so let it go. Your taking this too far, no one is being directly offensive or maliciously racist. It was just a comment about the appearance.

And that is very bad you thinking that i wouldnt no about racism. Shit man i live right on London where the population seems more black than white the majority of the time. Ive seen white people be very racist and say nasty things and it didnt used to bother me wen i was about 12-15 but now it bothers me very very much but only wen its meant in nasty ways. I have loads and loads of black friends and i can joke with them as they do with me but there is never any ill-wishing

Tha Q. 11-30-05 07:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Bull
I didn't say it in a racist manner. My personal opinion is that she's ugly as fuck and resembles an ape.



Sorry, but I don't find that attractive at all. Don't see how it insults everybody else.




Calling me a moron when I know the HISTORY of words when you don't makes you look STUPID. You can't even figure out why I and LEADY are tryna educate your bigoted ass. And HE'S EVEN WHITE AND KNOWS BETTER! No one called you a racist until you wouldn't just accept what we're saying. We're telling you that the word is rooted in racism and you should reconsider using it. It was a terrible choice of words. PERIOD. Now, make yaself look dumber by putting more DUMB SHIT in your sig.


Q = MORE EDUCATED THAN YOU.


PERIOD.

Dex 11-30-05 07:25 AM

I think you have lost the plot slightly Q.

Your point is you dont want him to use that word cos it offends YOU. Tahts all you had to say.

Dex 11-30-05 07:26 AM

she is hella fuckin ugly tho

Tha Q. 11-30-05 07:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dex
I think you have lost the plot slightly Q.

Your point is you dont want him to use that word cos it offends YOU. Tahts all you had to say.



My point is, HE was arguing back and forth with LEADY who originally told him the word was offensive, and LEADY IS WHITE!!!!!!!!!!!!! He refused to just say "Okay, I can see who it could offend black people". Rather, he sat there and argued with someone who is MORE EDUCATED THAN HE IS on the matter and made himself look like a raging BIGOT. My point is, stop trying to JUSTIFY using that term and reconsider it the next time. If someone is ugly, say they are UGLY. Again, just because a word is convenient to use doesn't make it right.

PERIOD.

Tha Q. 11-30-05 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Dex
she is hella fuckin ugly tho



and I disagree...I don't think she's as ugly as you and others are makin her out to be...but, that's just my opinion.

Adam 11-30-05 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Calling me a moron when I know the HISTORY of words when you don't makes you look STUPID. You can't even figure out why I and LEADY are tryna educate your bigoted ass. And HE'S EVEN WHITE AND KNOWS BETTER! No one called you a racist until you wouldn't just accept what we're saying. We're telling you that the word is rooted in racism and you should reconsider using it. It was a terrible choice of words. PERIOD. Now, make yaself look dumber by putting more DUMB SHIT in your sig.


Q = MORE EDUCATED THAN YOU.


PERIOD.


Tha Q. is racist. He's calling white people dumber then black people.

Dude, that basically how you sound.

Tha Q. 11-30-05 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Bull
Tha Q. is racist. He's calling white people dumber then black people.

Dude, that basically how you sound.




Dude, I'm not going to argue with someone who ADMITTED they don't study. Leady knows more than you on the topic and so do I....So, go find more pictures of black women, say they resemble MONKIES and think you're right in saying it.

Grow the fuck up.

Adam 11-30-05 07:37 AM

I think you need to grow up man. Honestly. If a girl is ugly, I'll say she's ugly. Black or white. Doesn't matter to me. Willams is hideous in my eyes. That makes me a racist? No, it doesn't.

Have I ever been racist once on this site in the last Year and a couple months? No. My personal opinion is that she's ugly as fuck and looks like an ape. It's not intended to be racist, but apparently there are some dumbasses on the site that like to cause beef.

Tha Q. 11-30-05 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Bull
I think you need to grow up man. Honestly. If a girl is ugly, I'll say she's ugly. Black or white. Doesn't matter to me. Willams is hideous in my eyes. That makes me a racist? No, it doesn't.

Have I ever been racist once on this site in the last Year and a couple months? No. My personal opinion is that she's ugly as fuck and looks like an ape. It's not intended to be racist, but apparently there are some dumbasses on the site that like to cause beef.



hmm...cause beef?...Let's examine that...

#1...U say a black woman looks like an APE

FACT: BLACK PEOPLE USED TO BE CALLED APES IN A RACIALLY INSULTING WAY


#2...LEADY calls you out on it and says "THAT'S OFFENSIVE"


FACT: LEADY obviously knows the history of that term and others.


#3...REDBULL in his INFINITE WISDOM says "NO IT'S NOT OFFENSIVE, I"M JUST BEING HONEST"


FACT: Don't Racists HONESTLY think blacks are niggers?


#4...THA Q corroborates what LEADY SAYS


FACT: REDBULL becomes more defiant and obstinate just for the sake of being an asshole, in my opinion.


#5...HERE's WHAT SHOULD HAVE happened.


Red Bull says a black woman looks like an APE
Leady Calls him on it

RED BUll SHOULD HAVE done this..."OH NAH, I wasn't trying to be racist, I was just saying I think she's really ugly. I didn't know that word had a historically RACIST connotation. My bad"

Then, no one would be arguing at this point.

Tha Q got in this because REDBULL is runnin around tossin racially insensitive insults and refusing to even ACKNOWLEDGE that theterm might REMOTELY be offensive. And, again, JUST BECAUSE SOME BLACKS will support you RED BULL doesn't make it right either. Those are what you call UNCLE TOMS.

Don't get it twisted. Educated yaself on it. You admitted you "DON'T STUDY..." I suggest you learn WTF ur talkin about before you utter it.

THe shit is WRONG..ADMIT IT...reconsider it...and move the hell on.


NO ONE who isn't a RACIST/BIGOT/IDIOT/UNCLE TOM will agree with you that callin blacks MONKIES or APE-LIKE is PEACHY-KEY.

Adam 11-30-05 07:45 AM

Uhhh...

When he called me on it, I said I wasn't being racist, I just think she's ugly. So basically you've just been proved wrong on everything you're arguing.

Dex 11-30-05 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Bull
Uhhh...

When he called me on it, I said I wasn't being racist, I just think she's ugly. So basically you've just been proved wrong on everything you're arguing.


there you have it.

Also Q keeps saying that you called her an ape wen you only said she looks like one.

fuck sake she does, is it that hard to see?

Tha Q. 11-30-05 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Bull
Uhhh...

When he called me on it, I said I wasn't being racist, I just think she's ugly. So basically you've just been proved wrong on everything you're arguing.



NO...when he called you on it and said "THAT WORD IS INSULTING TO BLACKS BECAUSE OF ITS HISTORICAL ROOTS", you defied him and argued that it wasn't...WTF

He obviously has nothing to gain by causing beef. HE'S WHITE!!!!!!!!!! That means he simply knows the history of it and why it would be offensive to many blacks. A white man calling a black person ape or ape-ish is fuckin offensive. PERIOD. You did not acknowledge that what you said MIGHT HAVE been misconstrud. You just sat there and argued with someone who knew MORE ABOUT IT than you. That makes you an idiot, at best. LEADY isn't being paid by the black community to call you on your ignorance. pssf...

And, again, JUST BECAUSE SOME BLACKS will come in this thread and agree with you REDBULL doesn't make it right. = UNCLE TOMS...if you don't know what an UNCLE TOM is or the history of that term, LOOK IT UP, STUDY IT...


CASE CLOSED.

Dex 11-30-05 07:51 AM

so its ok for a load of blacks to say she looks like an ape, that aint offensive is it??

BULLSHIT

uncle tom, my arse. that is the biggest load of bollox i ever heard. Q, you need your head examined.

You have an issue here. No one else, except maybe leady.

But Q, you need to get your issues sorted

Adam 11-30-05 07:54 AM

How many times are you going to close the case?

If you didn't notice I was in a discussion with two black people when I said it. Both of them didn't take it racist at all because they both knew it was directed at only her. Then I explained to both you and sac licker leady that it was only directed at her. So basically, you're arguing nothing, and just wasting your life trying to beef with somebody who really doesn't give a fuck what you think.


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