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La Cosa Nostra 03-22-06 11:15 AM

So...

You talk a load of crap that has nothing to do with christianity about being brainwashed by god... You dance around everything I've said by saying I somehow believe I have mastered everything about existance because I'm saying your a fool and you cant hack it...

Then to fill space you go back to a point we stopped talking about by the second post...

And you think this is some how making me look wrong?

Just quit trying man.. You sound like a dumb cunt......

Tha Q. 03-22-06 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
So...

You talk a load of crap that has nothing to do with christianity about being brainwashed by god... You dance around everything I've said by saying I somehow believe I have mastered everything about existance because I'm saying your a fool and you cant hack it...

Then to fill space you go back to a point we stopped talking about by the second post...

And you think this is some how making me look wrong?

Just quit trying man.. You sound like a dumb cunt......



*relishes when the insults start to roll*

I'll be a fool. I'll be a "dumb cunt". But, that doesn't take away from the fact that you're hiding behind ignorance to justify your rejection of God. What's foolish to God? I've danced around NOTHING, NOTHING. The belief is exactly what it is, belief. Again, if you CHOOSE TO REJECT IT, you have that right. But, don't dare attempt to have your cake and eat it too. You can't re-write what scripture says to justify infidelity. If Jesus said, "I am A WAY, A TRUTH, and A LIFE," then I'd have no argument. The scripture says, "Im THE way, THE truth, and THE life." That's a definite article, for all you english majors. Now, I've debated with Jehovah's Witnesses who've attempted to convince me that "the" was used instead of "a" because at the time it was written, they didn't have certain words/letters....blah...That's laughable. Even if that were true, the next sentence Jesus said SMASHED that notion. "NO MAN comes to God except through me."

I'm pretty darn sure they had the word NO back then. It's clear. But, when you're blind Nos, even the clearest truth is cloudy.

Dabatos 03-22-06 11:25 AM

im filipino..........am i going to heaven? =P

dazy 03-22-06 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
In Thailand, a man was killed by a mob of people after he damaged a Hindu statue. The victim was allegedly mentally ill and took a hammer to a religious statue before being beat to death by a crowd of people. One man gave his assessment of the situation, "It's unfortunate that he damaged the statue." WTH!???!?!?!?!?!?!?! These people would rather protect a statue--one that was made in the 1940s--than human life. The man in the interview couldn't care less that someone was beat to death. I find that to be atrocious.

Then, in Afghanistan, a Christian convert faces the death penalty for renouncing Islam. Historically speaking, Christianity has always been in the minority when it came to religions. The early converts often faced persecution, even death for professing their belief in Jesus. Mark my words, there's going to come a point in time when confessing Jesus Christ could mean life or death, and I'm talking about in "civilized" countries. This is a terrible state the world is in when people are being murdered for beliefs. But, the bible warns us about it.

This also begs the question: "Are Christians willing to die for their beliefs?" I can honestly say I don't know how I'd respond in a life or death situation. It's interesting.



realize this world is fucked up really bad

Dabatos 03-22-06 11:30 AM

lol ^^^^^^ hhaha...

La Cosa Nostra 03-22-06 11:33 AM

The queer:

Ahahaha Man you say your not blind then go on rambling a bunch of crap that your religion says is true with no factual backing...

What is wrong with you? You even quoted a bible passage and said it means dont believe the hype... But your fine with saying "Oh hey man, I believe all this blaitantly biased un-realistic shit they teach me in my religion because I have this thing called 'faith'... which means I can talk loads of crap about stuff that isnt realistic and pretend its real cause I use this magical buzz word 'faith'.."

AND your still trying to say I dont believe in god when I've said numorous times I do..

You need to wake the fuck up...

Tha Q. 03-22-06 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
The queer:

Ahahaha Man you say your not blind then go on rambling a bunch of crap that your religion says is true with no factual backing...

What is wrong with you? You even quoted a bible passage and said it means dont believe the hype... But your fine with saying "Oh hey man, I believe all this blaitantly biased un-realistic shit they teach me in my religion because I have this thing called 'faith'... which means I can talk loads of crap about stuff that isnt realistic and pretend its real cause I use this magical buzz word 'faith'.."

AND your still trying to say I dont believe in god when I've said numorous times I do..

You need to wake the fuck up...



Ladies and gentlemen, I do believe this is the end of this conversation. You can't justify God with logic. It's faith. You reject God and that's your choice.

Case closed.

*shakes head at so-called intellectual resorting to name calling and tantrums*
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La Cosa Nostra 03-22-06 11:39 AM

Negative.

Logically god must exist. If he didnt there would have been no cause connected to the effect that created the big bang.

Dont try and be intentionally naieve to win an argument.. That shit is childish as fuck.....

Tha Q. 03-22-06 11:45 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Negative.

Logically god must exist. If he didnt there would have been no cause connected to the effect that created the big bang.

Dont try and be intentionally naieve to win an argument.. That shit is childish as fuck.....



Wrong. Now, you're attempting to incorporate science (which you probably know nothing about) into a theological argument.

If you knew ANYTHING, ANYTHING about science, then you'd know it's possible for the Big Bang to occur without the exitence of God in the equation. Like I said, believe what you believe. You've made other things your little "g"od. It's cool, we all do it or have done it at some point. But, come on, when you KNOW the truth and reject it, that's plumb dumb.

P.S. I won't even begin to explain to you how science says it's possible to have a big bang without "God" in the equation. There's no proof of it, so it's irrelevant, right?

You believe Mars exists, right? I don't see why. You've never been there. You've never seen it personally. Wait, they have pictures of it right? Sure, they also have pictures of Big foot, the Lockness monster, Santa Clause, and Aliens in Oval shaped craft.

Don't do it to yourself bro. There's something called faith. Try it.

La Cosa Nostra 03-22-06 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Wrong. Now, you're attempting to incorporate science (which you probably know nothing about) into a theological argument.

If you knew ANYTHING, ANYTHING about science, then you'd know it's possible for the Big Bang to occur without the exitence of God in the equation. Like I said, believe what you believe. You've made other things your little "g"od. It's cool, we all do it or have done it at some point. But, come on, when you KNOW the truth and reject it, that's plumb dumb.

P.S. I won't even begin to explain to you how science says it's possible to have a big bang without "God" in the equation. There's no proof of it, so it's irrelevant, right?

You believe Mars exists, right? I don't see why. You've never been there. You've never seen it personally. Wait, they have pictures of it right? Sure, they also have pictures of Big foot, the Lockness monster, Santa Clause, and Aliens in Oval shaped craft.

Don't do it to yourself bro. There's something called faith. Try it.

Lmao..

Q I have studied the science behind existance for years... There is NOTHING you can try and tell me that I dont already have a firm grasp on.

And no its not possible for existance to just appear with no cause. A cycle is possible, however that has nothing to do with a beginning. And if there was no beginning and the universe is an infinite cycle, then the universe is inevidibly a constant god-like entity in itself that exists as an infinite therefore logically god must exist in one form or another.

What YOU believe..........Is a fairy tale..
And when I look through a telescope, I can view the planet mars. Are you really stupid enough to think its a plausable fabrication?

Q, like I said... Just stop trying... Its so blaitantly obvious you are a lot more naieve on these subjects than you would like to believe...

Tha Q. 03-22-06 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Lmao..

Q I have studied the science behind existance for years... There is NOTHING you can try and tell me that I dont already have a firm grasp on.

And no its not possible for existance to just appear with no cause. A cycle is possible, however that has nothing to do with a beginning. And if there was no beginning and the universe is an infinite cycle, then the universe is inevidibly a constant god-like entity in itself that exists as an infinite therefore logically god must exist in one form or another.

What YOU believe..........Is a fairy tale..
And when I look through a telescope, I can view the planet mars. Are you really stupid enough to think its a plausable fabrication?

Q, like I said... Just stop trying... You are a lot more naieve on these subjects than you would like to believe...


The "science" of "existence"...That's interesting...Quote me who you've read or studied please. You know, I like to keep up on these things. Better yet, lay your theory out flat on the table. haa..Cuz, you know, I'm always trying to stay abreast of current issues.

That alcohol has killed your brain cells bro. You're a lunatic. You honestly have forged a belief in your mind that you're a son of the "universe" and that your existence is a shot in a billion. Okay...

Telescope?...Bro, you can't afford a telescope powerful enough to see anything of use in the cosmos. You may see "something" but it's nothing of detail. Again, I'm playing devil's advocate here. I believe Mars exists. I don't KNOW Mars exists. I was TOLD Mars exists. I've seen pictures. But, that doesn't prove that there's a "red planet" out there with a rover on it that supposedly landed in 1997. Your so-called views are nothing more than BELIEFS. You can't honestly sit there and suggest that everything you hold as "true" has been or can be quantified. That isn't the case. At some point, there's an acceptance of what you read or told based on the preponderance of evidence and "facts" presented. As for believing in God, it's no different. When someone's eyes are open to the truth, then they become aware of why they are. You are blind Nos because you reject the notion that something out there is greater than you and has a plan for your life. Your problem is that you think the universe revolves around your pathetic conjectures. In fact, to add insult to injury, you have the audacity to cite belief in a God you can't even name. Who is your God? The universe? Well, science says the universe will COLLAPSE on its self again. And, I'm glad the God I serve is ever lasting.

Too bad you can't say the same.


Educate yourself kid.

Tha Q. 03-22-06 12:14 PM

phew

after that

I'm done

lol

CONVICTION!

La Cosa Nostra 03-22-06 12:24 PM

Fuck man...
Your an idiot bruz...

Read what the fuck your saying... Cause there is nothing there that properly counter attacks anything I've said... You just dance around issues, lie about things, assume things about me and talk shit...

Saying things like:
Quote:
Originally Posted by The queer
You are blind Nos because you reject the notion that something out there is greater than you and has a plan for your life.

Where did I reject that? Nowhere.... Thats actually something I preach about because it is directly related to the physical laws of cause and effect. Ironically, hardly any of your belief's co-incide with these laws. Thats why you use buzz words like 'faith'.
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Originally Posted by The queer
Bro, you can't afford a telescope powerful enough to see anything of use in the cosmos.

For one you can see mars with the naked eye. Its like a star but much brighter. There are professional obvervatorys people can go to and view mars. Would you please stop being such a moron?
Quote:
Originally Posted by The queer
you have the audacity to cite belief in a God you can't even name. Who is your God? The universe? Well, science says the universe will COLLAPSE on its self again. And, I'm glad the God I serve is ever lasting.

Again... You said 'again'... Bruz the currant universal theorys state that the universe is in a constant cycle which means it never dies. Dying is a term that says something is discontinued. A cycle is a term that states something is constant. And you still think a compression is the death of the universe? The big bang theory states that all matter in the universe constricts into a big crunch before it explodes and expands. You call that a death. But in reality. This isnt logical. My belief's are simply a more reasonable explenation of existance. Like I said.. YOUR belief's are a fucken fairy tale about some little bearded man sitting on a cloud... THATS why you use words like 'faith'. Dumbass...

There are so many things you obviously dont understand about the theorys your trying to talk about. I'm sorry that you sound like such a dumbass.. But please, unless you have something thats actually credible to say to me...

Dont even bother posting again...

La Cosa Nostra 03-22-06 12:50 PM

And thats it for tonight...

Its 3:40am I'm outta this shit hole...

I predict the q will post another load of ignorant name calling crap that doesent prove anything I've said wrong... He will say how 'ignorant' and 'stupid' I am.. He will assume another fresh batch of bullshit about my belief's in an attempt to undermine what I say...

And it will fall of deaf ears.

Have fun loser.

LaTiNKiTTeN 03-22-06 03:16 PM

u are talkin about thailand and afganistan,..in some of those countries,religions are taken to an extreme...i dont see it happening here in north america,at least definitely not while we're alive


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