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Tha Q. 03-24-06 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dabatos
lol Q.. u forget one thing, remember, its thier country, they run it their way, we are just intruding in their kind of life style.. ex.. imagine they went into our country, bombed a city you live in, where your family is, kill thousands of thousands, and maybe even ten's of thousands of U.S. citizens, and say, they only did it to help us. Than someone from the country that destroyed us sed, atleast the females will have more freedom. Wouldnt you think the females thats in U.S. hate that country that bombed us because they killed her family members?? which is worst.. loosing your whole family and watch your country be destroyed day after day, and forced to stay in ur house unless u want to get raped, or shot by enemy soldiers, or loose freedom?? you make the choice.. and basiclly, make that vice versa, and do u think its worth to have ''some'' females feel freedom, and loose thousands of innocent kids, women, and men??

no beef.. jst truth..



Bro...Think about what you just said. The United States allowed slavery for over 200 years before the Civil War. Now, the Middle Passage was one of the most horrific crimes against humanity in history. Based on what you just said, outsiders should have just turned their heads and said, "Those blacks are slaves but that's the US way of life." Is that right?


THat's what your argument is. Even though people are being oppressed int hose countries, no one should intervene.

Nah dawg...I have a problem with that logic.

Dabatos 03-24-06 01:34 PM

okay, that was that past, its gone.. this is present.. we're talking bout them.. but that was not what I meant by my point, what I meant was cuz u sed somethin like females enjoy the freedom they have, but thats some, while a big majority of them are suffering due to the US being there.. people in the middle east, like the women, have grown a custom to them having to always hiding their hair, only for their husband, taking care of children, etc.. yea alot of people in US dont need to do that, and have the freedom to do what ever they want, but they were taught it is the men's job to have all the power.. the women ofcourse wont like it, but they grew a custom to it, and now they completely depend on their husbands.. but now that alot of these women's husbands are dead (due to us invading their country, n having them fight against us), how will they get a job to feed their family's.. how can they ever do anything now?? other than suffer.. yes, many women may be happy, but what about the one's that lost many love ones due to us invading their homes while at the same time destroying their lives?..

i was just defending the fact when you said many women are enjoying their freedom.. but how can they enjoy their freedom when they have no money to spend, starving, and cant even leave their houses due to the fact there are gun fights every day, and a stray bullet could possible hit them.. and dont forget about the 2-3 or maybe even 4 suicide car bombers a day?..

Tha Q. 03-24-06 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Dabatos
okay, that was that past, its gone.. this is present.. we're talking bout them.. but that was not what I meant by my point, what I meant was cuz u sed somethin like females enjoy the freedom they have, but thats some, while a big majority of them are suffering due to the US being there.. people in the middle east, like the women, have grown a custom to them having to always hiding their hair, only for their husband, taking care of children, etc.. yea alot of people in US dont need to do that, and have the freedom to do what ever they want, but they were taught it is the men's job to have all the power.. the women ofcourse wont like it, but they grew a custom to it, and now they completely depend on their husbands.. but now that alot of these women's husbands are dead (due to us invading their country, n having them fight against us), how will they get a job to feed their family's.. how can they ever do anything now?? other than suffer.. yes, many women may be happy, but what about the one's that lost many love ones due to us invading their homes while at the same time destroying their lives?..

i was just defending the fact when you said many women are enjoying their freedom.. but how can they enjoy their freedom when they have no money to spend, starving, and cant even leave their houses due to the fact there are gun fights every day, and a stray bullet could possible hit them.. and dont forget about the 2-3 or maybe even 4 suicide car bombers a day?..



You don't get it, do you? It's not just about hair and clothing bro. Those people are oppressed. They were afraid of their own government. I can say what the US did in Afghanistan was more noble than what they did in Iraq. And, you can't have progress without loss bro. I think you're being idealistic. You can't topple a regime peaceably.



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Dabatos 03-24-06 01:48 PM

yes they are.. but how do we make their lives better my doing an invasion??? yea they are scared of their goverment.. but guess who they are scared of now??? U.S. goverment.. and I know this isnt part of the topic.. but i wanna add that the only reason they are attacking us more than ever now is cuz we invaded them, ofcourse alot of them are gonna defend a country they've known the rest of their lives.. imagine if they invited ur home town.. dont tell me u would jst sit back n let them take it... wen u ur self can buy or jack a gun n help defend ur home that you've known urwhole i9fe.. bt yea not part of topic.. i jst wanted to add it cuz something i learned n wanna share.. like how ur telling ppl wut l learned n luv sharing =P.. no beef.. jst toughts.. arguments come up.. ut doesnt mean enemies gonna become cuz of it.. cant wait till we collab =P

Tha Q. 03-24-06 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Dabatos
yes they are.. but how do we make their lives better my doing an invasion??? yea they are scared of their goverment.. but guess who they are scared of now??? U.S. goverment.. and I know this isnt part of the topic.. but i wanna add that the only reason they are attacking us more than ever now is cuz we invaded them, ofcourse alot of them are gonna defend a country they've known the rest of their lives.. imagine if they invited ur home town.. dont tell me u would jst sit back n let them take it... wen u ur self can buy or jack a gun n help defend ur home that you've known urwhole i9fe.. bt yea not part of topic.. i jst wanted to add it cuz something i learned n wanna share.. like how ur telling ppl wut l learned n luv sharing =P.. no beef.. jst toughts.. arguments come up.. ut doesnt mean enemies gonna become cuz of it.. cant wait till we collab =P



Bro...those people will ALWAYS be miserable. That has NOTHING to do with the U.S. They will ALWAYS fight. They've been fighting each other since biblical times. For those who choose to not believe the bible, that's one prophecy in the Old Testament that has seemed to come true. There will be dissension in the Middle East for ages and ages. There has to be an initial; intervention though. People can not have it both ways. Everyone wants the U.S. to provide food and money, but they don't want us to go "too far". eh ehh...You can't have your cake and eat it too. They claim the U.S. needs to step up on some issues. Well, this is one we're stepping up on. It just happens to be unpopular.



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Dabatos 03-24-06 01:58 PM

lol Q.. something bout the prophecy u mention.. that is a prophecy that has been in all bibles, religions etc.. there will always be ppl that dont believe in the religion they believe in lol.. n not only the M.E. will be always misserable (or however u spell it lol)... everyone else will be like that.. even the U.S. we got people suffering like hell, yet the Goverment chooses to help other countries more than to help the country they have sworn to take care of lol.. how wierd is that?? everywhere lives are miserable.. not just the M.E... and yes it has nothing to do with the U.S.. but we are the reason it has gotten worst.. n y does the U.S. even have to interfere or however u spell it lol.. we lost thousands of ppl already.. damn bush lol.. damn Bush used 9/11 to go there.. damn bush.. iono y i brough it up.. but DAMN BUSH lol

Crazy Hades 03-24-06 05:59 PM

Honestly, where is the cold hard proof that he allowed it to happen?

Still, it is a rather pathetic tactic America has used throughout history, provoking people so it isn't them who starts it...Fort Sumter, the Rio Grande, what some people think happened with the ship that started the Spanish-American War (though there is also a good chance that either it was sabotaged or its the fault of the cargo that spontaneously combusted ).

LaTiNKiTTeN 03-24-06 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
huh? Where am I "surprised" in this thread? I'm relaying news that I find interesting at the moment.

...well u did say wow a couple of times at the end of ur post...so it seemed to me like u were surprised....and me personally,i woudlnt be surprised by ANYTHING in afghanistan.....

PrahJect 03-24-06 06:13 PM

Ayo can I jus say that I agree wit what chu saying and I agree this shit is stupid and I like other niggas dont wanna see it happen HOWEVER slightly off tha point i wud jus like to inform people that are saying "its the muslims" etc... they are LABELLED muslims but THEY ARENT..for an example: a Jewish that isn't circumcised, doesnt eat kosher and obide by Torah rules is NOT a Jewish person religiously, only by law....if a Muslim is a terrorist and follows out in these type of actions..he is disruptng the main message of Islam - Peace which these mufuckas are ruining due to their antics and gettin people to get a bad view so im jus informing yall..they aint muslims a real muslim is whom abide by laws...1

PrahJect 03-24-06 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Bro...those people will ALWAYS be miserable. That has NOTHING to do with the U.S. They will ALWAYS fight. They've been fighting each other since biblical times. For those who choose to not believe the bible, that's one prophecy in the Old Testament that has seemed to come true. There will be dissension in the Middle East for ages and ages. There has to be an initial; intervention though. People can not have it both ways. Everyone wants the U.S. to provide food and money, but they don't want us to go "too far". eh ehh...You can't have your cake and eat it too. They claim the U.S. needs to step up on some issues. Well, this is one we're stepping up on. It just happens to be unpopular.



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Thas quite foolish too say, "THEY WILL ALWAYS FIGHT"..first off stereotypical....fighting has become a resort...due to American instrusion....and most dont want to fight..its only tha extremists...and they aint muslims read my last post why IMO, and about America giving food...NO...ITS OUR FAULT THIS HAPPENS...people be too ignit these days, realise its our fault....us as a nation is being too greedy, taking OIL etc. from defenceless countries to up our ego..one thing is it is Bush's fault, not oours cos if it was ours as black people then we would have a say in the matter which we really dont....so thas what I got to say

Tha Q. 03-24-06 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jae Stackz
Thas quite foolish too say, "THEY WILL ALWAYS FIGHT"..first off stereotypical....fighting has become a resort...due to American instrusion....and most dont want to fight..its only tha extremists...and they aint muslims read my last post why IMO, and about America giving food...NO...ITS OUR FAULT THIS HAPPENS...people be too ignit these days, realise its our fault....us as a nation is being too greedy, taking OIL etc. from defenceless countries to up our ego..one thing is it is Bush's fault, not oours cos if it was ours as black people then we would have a say in the matter which we really dont....so thas what I got to say



Fighting in the Middle East isn't new bro...



And LK...because I said WOW I was surprised?...nah....more like a sigh with words

Tha Q. 03-24-06 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jae Stackz
Ayo can I jus say that I agree wit what chu saying and I agree this shit is stupid and I like other niggas dont wanna see it happen HOWEVER slightly off tha point i wud jus like to inform people that are saying "its the muslims" etc... they are LABELLED muslims but THEY ARENT..for an example: a Jewish that isn't circumcised, doesnt eat kosher and obide by Torah rules is NOT a Jewish person religiously, only by law....if a Muslim is a terrorist and follows out in these type of actions..he is disruptng the main message of Islam - Peace which these mufuckas are ruining due to their antics and gettin people to get a bad view so im jus informing yall..they aint muslims a real muslim is whom abide by laws...1



It is within the constitution to allow for the execution of converts. And, those laws are based on the sharia, or Islamic law.





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