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∆ P E X X 04-11-06 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by ILL-usion
actually 50 be in 2nd place pac be in first....yea i know how 50 sold 11 million copies of get rich or die trying just by itself...
but really 2pac holds the record as the greatest selling hip hop figure of all time...if he was alive today he'd be the richest rapper living..unless that take away the influence his death made :(



^^I put money on it 50's not on that list, not 3rd, second or 1st.

locknes 04-11-06 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Apexx
you never know son. It's likely as hell, but even still that could be due to their sheer influence in the "rap" industry, not record sales.

If it were based on Sales, 50 would be kicking either pac, jay, or bigge out of that list, and we all know that ain't happening.

With a low-selling artist like Rakim as 4th, anything's possible.

50 cent has not sold more records than tupac or biggie or jayz

Sean Gunner 04-11-06 08:30 PM
Word, the list isn't that bad.

10. LL
9. Em
8. Ice Cube
7. Big Daddy Kane
6. KRS 1
5. Nas
4. Rakim

Not that bad of a list in my opinion.

∆ P E X X 04-11-06 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by locknes
50 cent has not sold more records than tupac or biggie or jayz



well lets see, GRODT broke the record for most albums sold in a single week, then released The Massacre and still sold 1.1 mil in the first week.

What other rapper did that back to back EVER?

This still isn't counting all the record G-Unit as a whole sold.

cmon man, you gotta pay this man his respects, hate it or love it ;)

K.ontroverz.Y 04-11-06 08:32 PM
big pun and ll would be a toss up...dont underestimate ll ...he is fuckin SICK when he tries...he merked cannibus..nuff rappers that underestimated him....hes just tryin ot get money so hes on that wack mainstream shit..my uncle is an mc and opens up concerts he told me about LL

locknes 04-11-06 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Apexx
well lets see, GRODT broke the record for most albums sold in a single week, then released The Massacre and still sold 1.1 mil in the first week.

What other rapper did that back to back EVER?

This still isn't counting all the record G-Unit as a whole sold.

cmon man, you gotta pay this man his respects, hate it or love it ;)

yeah but his sales droped

grodt 11 mil
massacre 4 mil
thats 15 mil

while jayz ,big and tupac have double that or more

locknes 04-11-06 08:50 PM
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Originally Posted by K.ontroverz.Y
big pun and ll would be a toss up...dont underestimate ll ...he is fuckin SICK when he tries...he merked cannibus..nuff rappers that underestimated him....hes just tryin ot get money so hes on that wack mainstream shit..my uncle is an mc and opens up concerts he told me about LL

he did not murk cannabis are u on crack

Sean Gunner 04-11-06 08:50 PM
I will give 50 cent props on selling so much bullshit.

Somehow he got people to buy the shit he calls music.

∆ P E X X 04-11-06 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by locknes
yeah but his sales droped

grodt 11 mil
massacre 4 mil
thats 15 mil

while jayz ,big and tupac have double that or more



who's talkin about gross sales? I'm talking about initial sales. What other rapper beat his? nobody. He set the record, then broke it with the next release.

that = never happened in hip hop ever.

SerB 04-12-06 02:17 AM
People have differnet thoughts.


Mainstream

LLcooj > Pun.

Who effected hiphop more?

LLcoolJ hands down. Pun was just a lyricst who's fav came when he died.

Terumoto 04-12-06 03:33 AM
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Originally Posted by RYU...
MTV doesn't know shit about anything, look at who's videos they play and who's videos they don't play...but to me, it's not about Big Pun not being as good, LL cool J has had a consistent careerand been commercially successful each time he has come out with an album...lyrically he's pretty much "nothing" far as I'm concerned but in the grand scheme of things he probably is all-around one of the best "rappers" ever, he's just not a great "lyriccist" so they are at least somewhat correct

besides, this is a commercial source
you can't take what they say as the Hip Hop gospel


Didnt LL battle canibus and win? He was on the same level as him, or almost on the same level as him.

L. Veracity 04-12-06 11:19 AM
LL Cool J can beat whoever he wants to in a battle but does he come with hard lyricism on his CDs when someone's NOT trash talking him like Cannibus was? I highly doubt it...LL is not lyrically consistent

therefore he's a rapper, not a lyricist...just My opinion

locknes 04-12-06 04:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Apexx
who's talkin about gross sales? I'm talking about initial sales. What other rapper beat his? nobody. He set the record, then broke it with the next release.

that = never happened in hip hop ever.

yeah i thought you meant alltime records eminem owns any rapper

and biggie rank in 3rd i think chuck D is gonna be on the list

locknes 04-12-06 04:45 PM
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Originally Posted by PIMPIN aint easy
nah tupac is the highest selling rapper of all time unless eminems curtain call album put em in 1st place im not sure i never saw the sales for that album

and i think that list is fairly good

your right tupac is but eminem is the highest selling rapper alive


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