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Terumoto 05-22-06 03:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Apexx
your perspective cant' possibly get any wider than through zen or 'becoming one with the universe'. the path to enlightenment is the shedding of the narrow perspective in the first place.


Perfect...

Mu.

(dont forget to check my post before this one, which is a huge reply to what you and Nos said.)

Indeph 05-22-06 05:42 PM

Buddah was a Hindu wasn't he?

∆ P E X X 05-22-06 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Terumoto
Exactly. That is why I have focused on the Zen sect of Buddhism, which (as you probably know) is centred around the self (that ironically, doesnt exist). After reading a large portion of the Sutras for myself, I saw that Buddha never intended to be worshipped as a God. Other sects of Buddhism that praise Siddharta, the first Buddha, I think are going about things the wrong way. And in Zen temples and Monasteries, the Buddha shrines are there as a mere reminder of the four noble truths and the eightfold path to enlightenment. I see Buddhahood as more of a state, Buddhahood aka enlightenment.


I def. feel you there. You know you're a powerhouse when an enlightened and balanced state of mind... is your last name lol.

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Don't forget the non-earthly worlds of Gods and Hells.


yeah see I never got that far into the religious aspects of it. Unless I'm thinking of the sources of the energies labeled as Karma.
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I actually highly regard Buddhism because it is the most pure. The modern day Sutras are highly accurate depictions of their original counterparts, because of the simple fact there has been no need to hide or change any part of them, and effort was actually made to preserve them.

I believe at their roots, all the major religions (Muslim, Hinduism, Christianity etc, excluding religions like Morman, jedi, those crap ones) are essentially trying to say the same thing, the thing which is conveyed in Zen Buddhism.

I'm not sure if you or Apexx have come across the story of a Zen Master (either Ryokan or Hakuin, can't remember) being showed a portion of the bible by one of his disciples. It was some of Jesus' teachings and parables, and the Zen Master said that whoever said those words was an enlightened man.

The sad thing is the bible has been messed around and tampered with so much its hard to distinguish truth from fallacy. A prime example of truth found in the Bible is Matthew chapter six, where Jesus is laying down a few of his philosophies. They are uncannily similar to their respective categories in the sayings of Buddha in the Sutras. If you scour the bible, so many connections can be made to Buddhism in particular, as well as Hinduism and Islam and, im sure, others. The difference is these ideas conveyed in the bible are quite vague, whereas in Buddhism the themes and beliefs are the same but are put across in a crystal clear way.

Im probably not explaining myself very well, but this is something I have found to be true.

As you said, the prime difference between Buddhism and its counterparts is that Zen Buddhism does not say that it is the right way, and the others are wrong.



I used to be like that, until the broad knowledge I had gained, I found condensed into ultimate truth in Zen Buddhism.


co-sign

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Originally Posted by Indeph
Buddah was a Hindu wasn't he?


ehh..sorta. in a similar way to how Jesus was Jewish.

Buddha is called the "refiner 'if hunduism, though ironically none of his teachings are Hindi and in fact, many were quite the opposite (like all people are equal, and the caste system is bad karma). The only common strand is the concept of reincarnation. Hinduism absorbed some of Buddhas teachings over time.

WhoAmI 05-23-06 06:44 AM

good thread, i didn't know too much about zen buddhism before now, i might go research about it...


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