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How about..

We exist to advance man kind as a species.


Tell me how believing things with no proof equates to achieving this goal.

Key: We exist.

Why don't we just leave it at that? Look at yourself. You're concious. You are a sentient being, alive, working... Existing. Isn't that amazing? What are you? What is youre true nature? What are you actually supposed to do in this life?

exaaaaaaaaactly, LOL

you just made my EXACT point that i've been trying to make this entire argument... you are arguing directly against faith, which doesnt make sense because the very definition of faith is believing in something WITHOUT PROOF OR EVIDENCE...

wow... do you giggle that much when you and Nos are engaging in anal dickriding together? :bored:

I'm arguing against believing things without proof or evidence you fucking dim whit...

Fuck man.. You really are not the sharpest tool in the shed.. I swear...

I REALIZE THAT, lol and thru alot of the discussion my whole point was that by doing that you are arguing against faith itself, which is never going to get you anywhere...

except the truth...which is what religious groups are scared of now as we have the technology to explain stuff...

Do you realize you've never met Franklin and yet you understand the simple working of electricity, or that you never were properly introduced or saw Alexander Grahm Bell on Tv but recognise the telephone?

I mean, personally, I'm ignostic so I'm not trying to defend religion in any sense because it's very pure origins have been so obscured throughout the years that now it's no more than a cult, or right of passage for the sake of convience. But the thing that keeps me ignostic aposed to athiest is that which is unknown. I mean, like the examples above, we never met or saw the majority of these people anymore believably than we saw images of Jesus... Through painting and through completed works. When invention are created, often they are denied their rightful respect until it's aplication is dubbed useful... But with religion there are more individualist views on what is to be considered "useful."

Religion is what you make it, there is an inate sense of comfort or nothingness from religion, and depending on your stance that is where your opinions will fall. But I don't see purpose in attacking a religion. The mind is a powerful thing, and if you believe so thoroughly in something than it's essance is there. Religion is much similar to anxiety, it's all in your head. If you believe or have an axiety dissorder than you think symptoms to the point of hypochondria... Where you truly feel the ailments. Religion follows a similar pretense.

Make it what you want.

I seriously fuckin love you. ^

^pshh indeph loving himself? who would of known. :rolleyes:

And that is why I'm your Bull God :)

Well, Im muslim, and even I know that my beliefs are flawed and biased. But its something I must hold on to to have any hope of living happy, you know? I never could see myself as an atheist. Im a lonely guy, I dont have any friends really, so whenever Im by myself I feel the need to talk to somebody, who better than god?

Yeah yeah "God dont exist fuckhead", well then let me live my own personal lie then ok? Its none of anybody's concern. lol =P

Beautiful. You don't argue that your belief is the truth, you argue that it is your truth and that cannot be argued with.

MC Venom, im starting to like your style.

In my opinion i think that most people who go too church that are christians are going and doing all of what they do cuz they dont "wanna go too hell" but thats just makin hell get all of the glory........they still rely on the "set of rules" which is why Jesus Came and died cuz nobody can hold the rules......I belive in God and I know God is true...but it seems like most preechers and what not are tryin too keep themselfs as perfect as they can be when nobody is perfect......and like i said thats why Jesus came down......and Blay is right you have too have faith in what ever you belive in.....also deph was right you cant see God you feel him.........

well thats all i gotta say