we're all going to war...i say during ww3 we stop for an rv war

Seriously, unless you want to get completely destroyed in a debate with me I really do suggest you check your facts up and read not only about the current escalation, but what has happened in the past to cause this…namely the so-called history you claim to know

You have completely got your facts wrong, as regards to Hezbollah and their so-called ethnic cleansing...I told you directly to provide me evidence of claims such as that, however you continue to give your own opinions that to be honest, sound like you have been living on Mars for your whole life...you do know what Hezbollah is both a political and military party, however it was formed primarily as a resistance movement to the Israeli occuption of Southern Lebanon...which it had a full right to do so. Yes it was (and most likely still is) funded by Iran, big wow!!! The U.S funds Israel, where do you think they get all these sophisticated weapons that allow them to engage in state terrorism from?



Ever since Biblical times? you do know there was no such thing as Israel until this last century right....? it was formed in 1948, how could have it been attacked since thousands of years ago by its neighbours in that case? I have no idea where you have got your information from – and if you are going to claim that the Arabs attacked the Jews before Israel was established (of which you seem to not have the slightest clue about), please do provide the evidence. You do know that the Muslims and Jews lived side by side in harmony inside of Palestine for centuries, with Jews allowed to fully practice their religion?



No one HAS to recognise the right of Israel to exist. When the President of Iran talks of wiping Israel off the map or anyone else, they are not referring to the mass killing of Jews at all. In his opinion, he does not believe Israel ( a home for the Jewish people) ever had a right to be formed by taking land from the Palestinians, thus it should not be on the map as a state.



I have no idea where you get your information from. Stop acting like the Israel is the victim, they themselves created the problems that they are now facing today. And as for saying the Palestinians want to annihilate the Israelis, rather than generalising millions of people like that, care to provide some evidence? Plus, what makes you think the ultra-zionists wouldnt want to wipe out the Palestinians? Israel must dismantle all settlements, and return to the 1967 borders. It is an occupying force. Also, Palestinians who were thrown out of Israel during the 1948 and 1967 wars should be allowed to go back. Right of return has been recognised by the U.N many times, and only opposed by Israel and the U.S.

Every Arab in every country believes that OCCUPATION is the central issue in all of this. Until Israel gives the Palestinians their land back, the resistance is totally legitimate.



Would you care to explain this? Tell me, who attacked civilians first Israel or Hezbollah (which is a non-state military organisation, the government of Lebanon has no control over it). Hezbollah reacted to the killing of innocent men, women and children by firing rockets. Dont even bring taking the two soldiers as hostages into the equation. Israel is not just ATTACKING HEZBOLLAH, it is attacking civilian infastructure, innocent people and completely destroying the country. They are comitting war crimes. Israel has detained thousands of Lebanese and Palestinian hostages WITHOUT CHARGING THEM. But soon as their own soldiers get kidnapped, look at the disproportionate response.

So rather than talking about the Israel- Palestine history of which you have no idea about (it is actually funny how mis-informed you are) lets talk about the merits of the current events between Israel and Lebanon. Hopefully you will have a better idea of this situation.

There will be wars and rumors of wars... in the last days.....


it'll be like in the days of Sodom and Gramora *sp*


... i don know.... but it appears to me ..... these are the last days.....


in the words of Pac.... " is there a heaven for G?"

uppin this intellectual discussion

And the fighting continues...


God will eventually step in and crush Israel's aggressors.

Just watch what I tell you. The fighting will be by attrition, then all of a sudden it'll be as if the electricity went out.


BLANK.
DARK.
DONE.

To God be the glory.

There has ALWAYS been an Israel. Israel was captured and destroyed so many times. The current "state" of Israel was formed in 1948, but that was only AFTER it had existed, was destroyed (many times over) and finally rebirthed--which, incidentally, was prophesied in the biblical book of Ezekiel.

The current conflict between the Palestinians and the Israelis pre-date the formation of the current state of Israel, back to the ancient Kingdom of Israel in that region.

Are you anti-semitic?


And, you're right about one thing. The don't HAVE TO acknowledge Israel. But, they had BETTER acknowledge Israel, a country which has withstood attack after attack since Biblical times. I know you're not attempting to re-write history. And, how can you say "wipe Israel off the face of the earth" isn't a reference to the mass extermination of Jews?

And, you're wrong about when Israel was formed. Israel was first formed thousands of years ago, during the conquests of Joshua and eventually under the leadership of Kings Saul and David. Babylon (Iraq) and Persia (Iran) were enemies of Israel then, and they're still enemies of Israel now.

I don't understand who you people think things just POPPED out of nowhere simply because you weren't alive 2000 years ago. ROME existed then too. I don't see you questioning their culture.

You entire argument sounds like anti-semitism to me. Need I remind you of Hitler? Oh, wait, there are some people who'd argue the Holocaust never occurred either.

:nono:

So, why does Israel have a right to that land, and to be a mighty nation? GOD PROMISED IT TO THEM IN THE BIBLE. So, if you choose to be blind and not believe the bible, at least BELIEVE WHAT YOU SEE WITH YOUR OWN TWO EYES. And, that's that Israel exists and has DEFEATED all aggressors since it's ancient formation, and it's current state.

I don't know what I'm talking about? Pssf...You claim to be the expert and don't know the basic history of Israel, ancient and modern.

Step up son so I can actually take time to chew you out.


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