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Originally Posted by Kriptic

im saying...we measure time..by sunlight an shit..and im saying time i snever endning....cant be measured..by it dont re-lap it self...its continouse..... i was getting at we think about time as in day and night.......and ur comment about..the distance between me and the wall...not exsiting if it went for time....was totally retarded... lol but i no wut ir sayina botu the other shit

It was an analogy. You said time doesnt exist because humans invented it, I said we didnt invent it and you might as well say distance doesnt exist because we invented ft, which measures distance. I know that time is continuous, and I have never once been talking about it in relation to day and night, or 8pm type stuff, except in response to you, when you were talking about it.

"what would TIME have to do with ME existing??"

Ask God how he's going for me.

i meant TIME...as in meausrments... b.c i thought u were talking about it, someoen said osmething about it..idk...but yeah i get wut ur sayin...im not sayin a dissagree..i agree lol....were getting words mix'd..and tryin ta say the same thing...its all good

oh..an i dont beilve in 'god' concidering we made him up to.... we wrote the books man....

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Originally Posted by Kriptic

oh..an i dont beilve in 'god' concidering we made him up to.... we wrote the books man....

lmao. Dont start a whole other argument here.

haha that one could go on for ever... so well leave it for another thread in the future... lol

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Originally Posted by Terumoto

OK. Lets think of an effect as an event, in regards to the concept of cause and effect. One example of an event is the birth of a baby.

You could regard the cause of an event as its beginning. So when did this event, the birth of a baby, begin? What caused it? Does it begin the moment the mother goes into labour? It could begin the moment the child was conceived. It could have been caused by the hormones in the father that caused sexual lust, or the production of the sperm or ova in the parents. It could have been caused by the parents' birth, or their parents birth, or their parents birth, or theirs. We don't know what REALLY caused the event at all.

Howbout another example... A war. The first world war. This event, when did it begin (when was it caused), how long did it go for, and when did it end?

Well, you'd say that the cause of the war was this country doing this, and the regime of this or that country, and so on. You'd say that the war began in 1914 and ended in 1918. When in fact, all the things that led up to the first world war started long before 1914, and the repercussions of that war have continued long beyond 1918. How are we to distinguish an event from its repercussions? The time that we slapped onto the war and called it's duration is purely random. They chose two of the many aspects of the event and labeled them the start and finish.

Cause and effect is a flawed concept, because it regards every event in time as a seperate event. In reality there is no seperate events.

Lets say I was sitting down and looking through the slit of a fence, and a snake slithered past. Through the slit, first I see it's head, then its body, and then it's tail. You cause and effect guys go "ah! the head is the cause of the tail!" But that is purely a misconception. What I can see through the slit, is the present, right? I see the beginning of the snake, and then the whole snake until it ends at the tail. This doesnt mean that the head is the cause of the tail, the snake is one whole.

A new born baby

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Cause - Sex
Effect - Child birth

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A war

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Cause - Innitial action taken by a country
Effect - Countries work to defend themselves and take out the offending nation's military powers.

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You are thinking of these things based on what may have led up to the cause and all other causes that cause the cause to happen in the first place......

....... :nono:

Ok?

Time rolls on basically with neverending causes and neverending effects that spawn new causes.

Ok?

The snake thing-- The first inch of the snake goes through the fence, which is the effect of muscles moving in that snakes body propelling it forward.

What your saying is basically misinterpreting the concept of cause and effect. Which by the way is a steady law of physics thats been in place for hundreds of years and nobody has ever found a reason to prove it wrong or call it a misconception.

If the greatest scientific minds of the last 5 or 6 centuries couldnt find any reason for it to be a misconception, then I guess we should all hail John Nigro of sydney for finally putting to rest that awful myth that is newtons laws of physics..

Whats next for you man? Are you gonna attack einsteins theory of reletivity?

Maybe you wanna put forward an argument that the sky is actually green and our eyes are just playing tricks on us...

............Whats that?

You got something to say man?

yeah...this topic has been discussed...thnc for breakin it down killa haha ur about 15 posts too late for it haha

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Originally Posted by Kriptic

yeah...this topic has been discussed...thnc for breakin it down killa haha ur about 15 posts too late for it haha

Eh?

Like any of your posts were worth reading...

worth reading?.... my posts wear half the conversation..me an what's his face were talkin....

A & B conversation..so C ya way out

....... lol thought it was a good time to say that.

I don't have time for time. Jk. Time is like.. .. . .. .... . . .. .. .... . the shit, yo. [/pothead]

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Originally Posted by Kriptic

worth reading?.... my posts wear half the conversation..me an what's his face were talkin....

A & B conversation..so C ya way out

....... lol thought it was a good time to say that.

Wanna know the real deal man?

I'm sitting here chatting to omb on msn and your just some cunt who posted a bunch of crap while I was away from the comp.

Then I came back to talk and ignored everything you said because you wernt even making a good contribution to the argument.

hahaha word. these topics could go one for so long if we were sitting around smokin a fat blunt lol

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus

hey heres the real deal....no one is listing to you.... byebye. hahaha

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Originally Posted by Kriptic

hey heres the real deal....no one is listing to you.... byebye. hahaha

Cool man..

Whatever helps you sleep at night...

I almost feel sorry for you that you dont realise its compleatly the other way around...

yeah..no one listing to me...when were ignoring you and having a conversation..... lol

imma jus go to bed...b/c i deal with retards liek you enoguh during the day.. lol peaace

and go ahead say soemthign after i sign off...just so u can feel good that i didnt come back and say something b.c im sleepin... haha right