Discovered. Stop thinking you're special and the universe revolves around you, my fellow animals.

wow, here comes the jackass brigade

I'm just saying it's stupid to think everything revolves around you. Time is relative; you're experiencing it, it's not experiencing you.

Clock? A combination of shaped metals, plastics and glass with markings on the face and straight things that move around in a circle?

If anything, it proves time DOESNT exist, since we organise something into a circle with regular markings that moves and gain meaning from it that is abstract. I mean look at what its measured with, numbers...

You ever see a number in the universe? In fact, nothing exists... When you think about it. For example, tree. What is "tree?" Its a sound when you say it, its a few symbols when you write it, it actually has NOTHING at all to do with trees. When you look at a tree, you aren't seeing "tree" youre seeing a tree. Its hard to explain, but you know what I mean?

Time... Time doesnt exist, but it does, but it actually doesnt at all. It all comes down to the question, "do thoughts exist?" So forget this thread and make a new one about thoughts. Because thoughts are a complex mixture of chemicals in the brain, but we get this odd meaning out of them, we can create things, we can imagine, we can see images and hear sounds that arent really there... Theyre only there in the form of chemicals and chemical reactions.

So wtf. Do thoughts exist?

If they want to.

sorry dude, but ima have to call you a retard in this post.

what exists? everywhere exists man. its what you make of it. beacause it wasn't made by man doesn't mean it doesnt exist.

Serb, how is time experienced? There is no such thing as the present, because when you think of it, the present has become the past and now you're in the future but that's the present. It's an abstract concept, and even using a clock you couldn't guarantee that they are actually concrete. The cogs turn, but a second could be a thousand years.

You don't understand. Good.

I am not talking about it in the simple literal sense that you are. Re-read my post. You also completely misunderstood what I was saying.

I'm saying man-made concepts (time, measurements, words, groups, basically any abstraction) do not exist anywhere in the universe, UNLESS thoughts exist, which is hard to determine because it pushes the boundaries of the meaning of the word "exist."

And then you say to me "everywhere exists man, just because it wasnt made by man doesnt mean it doesnt exist." Where did you even get that from?

"time is an illusion with purpose"- edgar caysey