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Shear Kaughn 12-02-06 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by KOOL COL-B
lmao

or like people r like "he's not asian, he's chinese" n im like "China iz in Asia" n theyre like "uhhh, no. China and Asia r 2 completely different countries" n theyre like "nooo"

or like "ur latino? so ur Mexican?" im like "uhhhh, no, not Mexican..." they like "well then how do u speak Mexican?" im just like "OMMFG :shoot:"

faaaack. werd



hahhaha with what you said....you have to be really "not in the know" to not fathom that..

but on the real..i understand what yall are saying..but a lot of times when it comes to people being ignorant on topics like these...they really just don't care enough about what your talking about to understand...

like the fo shizzle bizzle thing.....if a person who isn't really in tune with that kind of language..they really arn't going to care enough to try to understand...because if i was to go up to some middle aged white women who has never heard anyone say that..shes going to look at me like i'm the oddest person on earth..and even if i tell her what i mean..shes still going to be like.."well why didn't you just say that then?" everybody is like that at one point in there life..we hear or see something that is so foreign that we just dismiss it as rediculous

i hope i wrote all that to where it makes sense..if not i'll try and explain it better

∆ P E X X 12-02-06 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Logic/Socrates
Because the rich person lacks the experience of trying to get a job as a bum.


doesn't the bum lack the expereince of being a rich person?

see a rich person knows something a bum doesn't. that you are the captain of your own ship. that is to say.. you.. are only a product of your drive and initiative to sustain or improve... your self. sure, unfortunate things happen but how much they affect you (if at all).. is completely at your control. your situation is a direct result of the choices in life that you make.

bums have the mentality of bums, long before they ever become homeless. they think that unless some grand fortunate event is plucked out of the cosmos and falls right into their lap that nothing will ever happen for them. most people want to avoid the pain of thinking that they're the one responsible for the situation they're in. they want to blame and point fingers and lay the responsibility for their life on everything else but the actual source of their lifestyle.

themself.

that mentality is the seperation of the self made rich from the self made poor.

Terumoto 12-02-06 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ∆ P E X X
doesn't the bum lack the expereince of being a rich person?

see a rich person knows something a bum doesn't. that you are the captain of your own ship. that is to say.. you.. are only a product of your drive and initiative to sustain or improve... your self. sure, unfortunate things happen but how much they affect you (if at all).. is completely at your control. your situation is a direct result of the choices in life that you make.

bums have the mentality of bums, long before they ever become homeless. they think that unless some grand fortunate event is plucked out of the cosmos and falls right into their lap that nothing will ever happen for them. most people want to avoid the pain of thinking that they're the one responsible for the situation they're in. they want to blame and point fingers and lay the responsibility for their life on everything else but the actual source of their lifestyle.

themself.

that mentality is the seperation of the self made rich from the self made poor.


Thats it! You just put what I always try to tell people in a very understandable few sentences. I usually say something like "Oh well, it's all your fault anyway," if people try to pull some victim shit.

Logic The Goonie 12-02-06 03:36 AM

Well for the average bum, are they going to be able to shower and shave and have good clothes for an interview? No. Do they have an address or phone number the potential employer can contact them at? No.

I understand in some circumstances that can be overcome, but not all OR most.

And I'm not saying some dude who blew off his savings at Vegas and got fired the next week at work. Let's say someone who had something happen to them that they couldn't control, (maybe their wife got killed and they went into a deep depression blah blah blah) and got into their current position not by being irresponsible or anything, just shit changed. It's not like they WANT to be where they are, but once they are it's extremely difficult if not nearly impossible to get out. I know the trouble I had getting a job already, I can't imagine how hard it would be if I couldn't groom and didn't have contact info. Most self made rich, lets say like yourself, didn't really have experiences like the AVERAGE person with a 9-5. Maybe you had a 9-5 for a while I don't know, but since then you haven't and have been experiencing a different form of earning your money than most.

I know it seems like a lot of it's excuses and shit but shit does happen that you can't control. If a company all of a sudden loses 90% of it's customers for WHATEVER reason, they can't just bounce back as a company, no matter how hard they try. It's the same with people.

I hope you can understand and I do see where your coming from but I'm saying I'm coming from a different perspective. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying you're wrong from what I can see.

∆ P E X X 12-02-06 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Terumoto
Thats it! You just put what I always try to tell people in a very understandable few sentences. I usually say something like "Oh well, it's all your fault anyway," if people try to pull some victim shit.

lol i know how you feel man, that was me not all too long ago. then over time i learned how to become a more effective comunicator ;)

Terumoto 12-02-06 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ∆ P E X X
lol i know how you feel man, that was me not all too long ago. then over time i learned how to become a more effective comunicator ;)


Lingual communication is mediocre at best. -_-

∆ P E X X 12-02-06 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Logic/Socrates
Well for the average bum, are they going to be able to shower and shave and have good clothes for an interview? No. Do they have an address or phone number the potential employer can contact them at? No.

I understand in some circumstances that can be overcome, but not all OR most.

And I'm not saying some dude who blew off his savings at Vegas and got fired the next week at work. Let's say someone who had something happen to them that they couldn't control, (maybe their wife got killed and they went into a deep depression blah blah blah) and got into their current position not by being irresponsible or anything, just shit changed. It's not like they WANT to be where they are, but once they are it's extremely difficult if not nearly impossible to get out. I know the trouble I had getting a job already, I can't imagine how hard it would be if I couldn't groom and didn't have contact info. Most self made rich, lets say like yourself, didn't really have experiences like the AVERAGE person with a 9-5. Maybe you had a 9-5 for a while I don't know, but since then you haven't and have been experiencing a different form of earning your money than most.

I know it seems like a lot of it's excuses and shit but shit does happen that you can't control. If a company all of a sudden loses 90% of it's customers for WHATEVER reason, they can't just bounce back as a company, no matter how hard they try. It's the same with people.

I hope you can understand and I do see where your coming from but I'm saying I'm coming from a different perspective. I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm saying you're wrong from what I can see.


soc..

a bum.. doesn't have to have a desk job lol. a bum can get a job sweeping floors, taking out garbage, delivering the paper to a place once a day, posing for an artist, hell, i could think of a billion things. if i were a bum, shit, i would take a job scrubbing grafitti off of a wall!! if someone would pay me to do it. what ever it took to build my foundation back, on an honest dollar. but see, i think like that because.. that's my drive. my drive drives me to be that observant and that determined and resilliant. bums are bums because they're unproductive and don't have drive. why do you think people that are unproductive are called...bums?? lol. but a bum is in a unique situation where people will be willing to help them because they connect with the "human story" - the same reason people give to charity...or give to bums for that matter. the problem is most bums have a high sense of pride and a high sense of entitlement with a low sense of drive. they think that doing the things neccessary to get them back on their feet is degrading or too low and laying on the sidewalk feeling sorry for your self with your hand out stretched is a better alternative. no matter how you got there (and even that's at your control believe it or not), you're there. what you decide to do or not do from there is completely up to you.

i guarantee a self made rich person will spend less time on the street homeless than a self made poor person. and that's because their drive is different.

btw, I'm not going to get into my personal life, but for the record, i've had dozens upon dozens 9-5's, all the while i worked my own thing. that's because of my drive. nobody ever gave me anything, i never got any handouts in life or grew up in a privelaged environment. quite the opposite, but the difference is i never felt sorry for my self. i never said "hey mark...you deserve to take it easy now" fuck that. i'm not gonna kick back just because things are going "okay". i can work for my self, and work for somebody else, and use their money, to fuel my goals. why would i not want to do that?

^^that's drive. that's what seperates the rich from the poor. and that's all. nothing less. and nothing more.

sad fact is 90% of the people in the world don't have that.

Logic The Goonie 12-02-06 05:17 AM

This is one of those agree to disagree things.

∆ P E X X 12-02-06 05:23 AM

I couldn't agree more.



91%.

John Rippington 12-02-06 10:58 AM

I once tried to convince this girl that oxymoron didn't mean she was stupid and needed oxy clean for her pimples. (Seriously)

TeamOne 12-02-06 11:33 AM

Apexx, if this is shit u only learn through experience, aka tacit knowledge, why are u able to speak so eloquently on the subject of homeless and rich people.... how are u so in the know about these circumstances and these peoples mindsets???

∆ P E X X 12-02-06 04:10 PM

^2 words.

empathy and experience.

TeamOne 12-02-06 08:18 PM

ohhhh.... so u rose up from bumdom to become a millionaire..... didnt know that

Magic5 12-03-06 09:34 PM

WORD to this thread. I started reading the posts farther down on the first page and I was expecting everybody to be down with what Socrates was saying, but Apexx saved the day with that real shit, for real. HELLZ YEAH.

∆ P E X X 12-03-06 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
WORD to this thread. I started reading the posts farther down on the first page and I was expecting everybody to be down with what Socrates was saying, but Apexx saved the day with that real shit, for real. HELLZ YEAH.



hell yeah, the truth is still alive mimesis!


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