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Maleficent 12-26-06 03:59 PM

Then laugh away.

Magic5 12-26-06 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Past Tense
lol and where the "evidence" that evolution and all that jazz is real?.......u know how many lies there are in the text books.......if you look at the map they take AFRICA all the way out........i personally stay out of all this cuz i really dont care and i already know what i belive..but......just people like this make me laugh


You think that there's no proof that evolution has occurred? You think everything that's around today was around when the world was first created? Okay, man.

Magic5 12-26-06 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by N.Tavarez
im open to anything at least once, i read it all fiction and non fiction
just shoot me some of your favorite titles and ill check em out


Ahaha, I don't really know. Over the summer I was really into Dan Brown and I read the four novels that he has out. Right now I'm getting into John Grisham's novels. I read his non fiction book (The Innocent Man) and that book was pretty crazy. A month or two ago I read a sci-fi book even though I usually hate that shit and it turned out to be a book that I really liked. It's called Ender's Game, if you haven't read it I'd recommend it. You'll look at it and be like, ":wtf: This shit looks gay as fuck." because that's what I was like when I went to check it out, but it was a great read. After I finished reading that book I read Ender's Shadow which is just like, a parallel of Ender's Game told from another character's perspective. I'd recommend that book too. It was dope. I had to do a school project on a book called Midwives which is written by Chris Bohjalian and that actually turned out to be pretty good. I don't know what books you've read, but if you haven't read 1984 I'd definately check that out. That book was excellent and probably the best book I've read this year. I don't know, uhh. . if you have a ton of time on your hands you should read War and Peace. I heard it's a good ass book, I just know I don't have the time on my hands that I'd need to finish it in a decent amount of time. Apexx recommended a book called The Secrets of Life which I'll look to check out the next time I hit up the library. I don't know, man. I'll get more ideas later.

La Cosa Nostra 12-26-06 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
Everybody who calls themselves a Christian should read "The God Delusion." It's written by Richard Dawkins and it's dope as fuck. If you don't know history then you won't understand it, so don't even waste your time opening the cover if you're fucking retarded.

But word, the book is dope as hell. Check it out.

Oh, and just to clarify, I don't personally do believe that there is a God. However, I don't associate my beliefs with any religion and I think that Christianity today is complete bullshit. Richard Dawkin's book spends a lot of time on the Bible and it's a really interesting read.

What major points does the book make?

Maleficent 12-26-06 06:33 PM

His basic argument is that the collective irrational belief in "The God Hypothesis" is not only wrong ("intellectual high treason"), but pernicious in its resulting intolerance, oppression, bigotry, arrogance, child abuse, homophobia, abortion-clinic bombings, cruelties to women, war, suicide bombers, and educational systems that teach ignorance when it comes to math and science.

TitoBronsky 12-26-06 06:35 PM

if you believe we came from some primordial ooze.... and became monkeys then men.... then your retarted.... life is far to complex to have evolved.... and not been created.... by intelligent design or what i like to call my Heavenly Father....

Further more.... the big bang... how did an explosion occur from nothing ness to create anything.... if there was nothing how did something collide with itself to create our planet and universe??? You cant get something from nothing.... so.....

i suggest you find peace... in a higher power...call it what you will.... but God is real man... pick a name for home boi and run wit it... nahmean.... cuz trust...

" HE GOT THE WHOLE WORLD IN HIS HANDS"

-Don Tito Bronsky

Maleficent 12-26-06 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by TitoBronsky
if you believe we came from some primordial ooze.... and became monkeys then men.... then your retarted.... life is far to complex to have evolved.... and not been created.... by intelligent design or what i like to call my Heavenly Father....

Further more.... the big bang... how did an explosion occur from nothing ness to create anything.... if there was nothing how did something collide with itself to create our planet and universe??? You cant get something from nothing.... so.....

i suggest you find peace... in a higher power...call it what you will.... but God is real man... pick a name for home boi and run wit it... nahmean.... cuz trust...

" HE GOT THE WHOLE WORLD IN HIS HANDS"

-Don Tito Bronsky



First off tard, its not a monkey, its an ape, secondly, its bacteria and microbes, not primordial ooze. How can life be too complex to have evolved if evolution is what is proposed to have brought forth such complexities? Intelligent Design is trash.


This is whats being studied further, but there are theories of hyperspace, parallel dimensions and such. Assuming the supreme force is a transcendental personality is self-aggrandizing and uncreative. I like to call it the Amorphous Mechanism, which denotes his omniprescence and omnipotence, but it doesn't see or punish people. Fatalistic Deities are just ways to keep people in this small box of fear.

Terumoto 12-26-06 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Past Tense
lol and where the "evidence" that evolution and all that jazz is real?.......u know how many lies there are in the text books.......if you look at the map they take AFRICA all the way out........i personally stay out of all this cuz i really dont care and i already know what i belive..but......just people like this make me laugh


I must ask... What is it you believe? What is your idea of God, the afterlife, existence? You might be ruining yourself, by "knowing what you believe" so adamantly.

Where is the evidence for evolution? Is that a trick question? All over the earth, in the fossils they have dug up... Paleontology, comparative embryology, comparative anatomical studies, molecular biology and genetics, behavioural studies... The amount of evidence supporting the theory of evolution is so vast you might as well not consider it a theory anymore. It is basically fact. Does it disprove the existence of God? Of course not, it fits right in with anything mentioned in the bible, but maybe you didn't know that.

Now tell me... Where is the "evidence" that christianity and all that jazz that you believe so strongly is real? Lets recap on what you've said. You said there is no evidence for evolution that can be trusted, because in text books there are sometimes lies?

Pause.

[Notice, your beliefs are christian, christianity is based ONLY on a book. What makes this book immune to being loaded with false information? What, you refuse to believe the theory of evolution which has abundant real evidence that you can go and see for yourself if you have any qualms, yet you believe wholeheartedly in a cut up and edited composition of books specially chosen because they put across a certain message that people like to hear? A message, I might add, that is grossly misinterpreted by the masses.]

Let's continue...

So you stay out of the way of this sort of stuff? You have your beliefs in your mind, bolted and deadlocked, completely unchangeable by any amount of reason, sense, wisdom or experience. Typical christian behaviour. Also known as closed mindedness.

Do I make you laugh? I also would not believe the modern take on christianity for a single second, as they ignore the nuances in their own scriptures. I know God, I know the devil, I know heaven and hell, and they are NOT expressed well in christianity. Some christians know what they are on about (and the bible is quite sound when not solely relied on), but the rest, the majority, don't have a clue.

However, my beliefs are not absolute. I could change them, add or subtract, and it wouldn't matter. The folly of your philosophy lies in it's rigidity... But before I go on, I'll let you explain yourself.

What is it you believe?

(by the way, don't get defensive... Im trying to help you.)

TitoBronsky 12-26-06 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Maleficent
First off tard, its not a monkey, its an ape, secondly, its bacteria and microbes, not primordial ooze. How can life be too complex to have evolved if evolution is what is proposed to have brought forth such complexities? Intelligent Design is trash.


This is whats being studied further, but there are theories of hyperspace, parallel dimensions and such. Assuming the supreme force is a transcendental personality is self-aggrandizing and uncreative. I like to call it the Amorphous Mechanism, which denotes his omniprescence and omnipotence, but it doesn't see or punish people. Fatalistic Deities are just ways to keep people in this small box of fear.



haha cuz a monkey and a ape and chimp arent the same thing...??? :thumbup: or you wanted to be an ignorent ass hole you choose to type a shit load of gibberish.... about science and theology... all of which... are flawed....

the only thing i can say to you... is .... the end is near... nearer than you think... Global Warming... Nuclear War.... Impending doom is inevitably upon us.... you can either make peace with your creator.... or not... that choice is yours.... in the end 1 of 2 things can happen....

you either make peace with your creator and have everlasting life

or you die.... and are dead.... for eternity...

now... if what you say is true... and there is no GOD .... then making peace with your creator wouldnt have any ill effects other than what... leading a wholesome life???

but see... what if your wrong???? what if... as i believe there is a GOD.... and everlasting life freely given to all who accept his grace??? then my friend... the future of your soul is lookin very bleek... and you only have yourself... to blame for the suicide of your soul :thumbup:

Maleficent 12-26-06 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TitoBronsky
haha cuz a monkey and a ape and chimp arent the same thing...??? :thumbup: or you wanted to be an ignorent ass hole you choose to type a shit load of gibberish.... about science and theology... all of which... are flawed....

the only thing i can say to you... is .... the end is near... nearer than you think... Global Warming... Nuclear War.... Impending doom is inevitably upon us.... you can either make peace with your creator.... or not... that choice is yours.... in the end 1 of 2 things can happen....

you either make peace with your creator and have everlasting life

or you die.... and are dead.... for eternity...

now... if what you say is true... and there is no GOD .... then making peace with your creator wouldnt have any ill effects other than what... leading a wholesome life???
but see... what if your wrong???? what if... as i believe there is a GOD.... and everlasting life freely given to all who accept his grace??? then my friend... the future of your soul is lookin very bleek... and you only have yourself... to blame for the suicide of your soul :thumbup:



They aren't you dumbass, why don't you stop being ignorant and read a book. Also, show me where evolution is flawed without saying "zomg, teh evolutionzorzz, humans dyd nawt cum frum munkeez reedickulus!!!111".

Blah blah, doom. Doesn't concern me.

Fuck creators, its completely illogical and complicated, because if a fatalistic imminent God existed then he had to have come from somewhere, existing outside of time and space doesn't null this either, because the very realm from which he does exist has to have been born out of something else as well.. I also don't need to worship the air just to feel secure with how I live. Only the weak willed kneel and pray to nothing and hope for something, as said in your own words.

Dead for eternity. Awesome. I mind never existing then eternal bliss anyway.

Prove to me there is a soul, and I'll at least pretend like I give a crap. To come up with retarded anecdotes isn't prove either just for the heads up.


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