Excuse us for actually arguing and trying to pick the right answer. I suppose you would rather have us close our eyes and pick with inny-minny-minnie-mo?

im not talking about the occasional thing where somebody comes around and says "this argument sucks"

i mean in general

non believers are ALWAYS trying to pick apart EVERY religion, its like people have nothing else to live for, besides try and make people seem like idiots




You can follow science, which will be different in a few months, maybe years, or historical documents..

Although the bible is really corrupt from the romans, its still historical. In 50 years, those same things happened.

and apart from that, im not even saying youre wrong for trying to find the truth, but why are you gonna sit around trying to prove one group of people wrong all the time? How does it affect you if you dont believe in any sort of higher being? and after this all youre gonna be is worm food.

Your argument is based off the assumption I sit around and try to prove one group of people wrong, and that's it.

Non-believers in what? I believe in almost every (legitimate) religion, including christianity, that doesn't mean I can't pick apart peoples idiotic ideas of what their religion is. If anything, destroying somebody's beliefs is a way to help them get closer to the truth, people don't usually do it just for the sake of being a jerk. And there are a lot of different understandings and doctrines within the same "religion" for example the different sects of Buddhism or different Christian groups. Obviously religions change and develop over time, people add their understandings and discoveries to the religions to try and help people, or in a lot of cases to selfishly try and help themselves.

So it is a great thing to do to point a finger at something that sounds fishy, pick it apart and completely ruin it. It's like a process of elimination, the more people rule things out, the closer everybody will get to finding the right beliefs for them. The choices will be narrower, it will be easier to see what appeals to you.

In most cases if someone is protective of their religion and doesn't want someone trying to rule their beliefs out, they get upset instead of rationally defending their beliefs. Often it becomes a matter of "well what do you know" or "arguing doesn't prove anything" or "you're going to hell anyway it doesn't matter." Even unexplainable things can at least be referred to. If a Christian says to me "I believe in God because of some experiences I have had that I think are miraculous," I will say well what are these, and if there is no good explanation for them then that's great. All that's left for them to do is develop their perceptions and beliefs and fill in the gaps.

Once all the gaps are filled in, it becomes clear that what you have constructed is the outline of an unfillable gap, and then it clicks.

But to praise and defend a doctrine just because you believe in it isn't a good thing to do. One thing you have to be careful of is religions, they are fucked up and full of misinformation and corruption.

You have it backwards, Smash'Alot. People who don't believe in God are traditionally not responsible for persecuting religious people, icons like Dawkins aside. Religious people are usually the ones attacking people who aren't religious on the grounds that we are attacking religious people, which we are not.

How it generally goes is X asks me what I think, I tell X, and then I am oppressing X with my thoughts because I don't believe in whatever. This is not my personal experience, this is the experience of the atheistic movement as a whole, if you can call it that. Someone will express an opinion, and then suddenly all non-believers are suppressing belief in God and if you don't send your money now, Satan will surely triumph.

Why is this so? Because atheists don't actually care about converting people (except for, as I said earlier, Dawkins and his sycophants, who are reactionaries), whereas Christians and Muslims do. Major religions have an interest in painting the other side as the enemy because they want converts for whatever reason. Atheists have no agenda that would make them want to get people on their side that badly. I leave Judaism out here because the Jews aren't really interested in converting people unless they have some Jewish heritage already, and even so, there isn't a massive "get the Jews back!" campaign being waged.

Your "you can follow science, which will be different in a few months" argument is also ridiculous. Do you think that religion doesn't evolve? It does; the way you interpret documents evolves. They're religion's evidence. It just so happens that science's evidence is the natural world. The way you interpret things will always be based upon history, whether you agree or disagree with what was written in the past. Non-religious science is just as founded upon history as religious thought is.

In summary, you're an idiot.

P.S.: No, I'm not calling all Christians idiots. I'm calling you an idiot. You who post on RapVerse as Sir Smash'Alot. You are an idiot.

what still happened? if its corrupt, how do you know any of it happened? there's no historical documents to prove any of it. just wide spread word of mouth. add to that the fact that you don't know where the truth ends and the lies begins.

now some people choose to believe that, and some choose to question it

lol yeah man, his logic is basically "i don't understand it, therefore god exists"

im just telling u what i learned in my science class back in 9th grade

You must have had a bad teacher lol.

rofl haha I'ma steal that line..

to fully understand something you gotta break it down first...

that pretty sums up T's arguement...