*shrugs* he use to be tight.....i stoped listing to him when i heard that song with him talking about all the celeberty break ups..

first i know the songs about guns money and women are getting annoying but they are a neccesity (however you spell it) to the overall balance of hip hop and occasionally produce some good songs and new artist. its actually some artist that i view there lyrical ability as whack but still like because of the songs they make about guns and drugs. for example, plies sucks ass, but the nigga knows how to make good songs. i actually think that 08 may be his year. but you cant say hip hop is dead. everyone says that when what they dont want to hear is in the position of power. what hip hop started as is whats hurting, not really dead. a lot of different areas are finally getting there songs out there. i for one hate snap music, but if it weren't for snap music, you might stop hearing as many songs from artist such as talib kweli. in order for real artist to keep getting their financial backing from there labels, hip hop has to still flourish as a business. so in a way all this wack ass shit is whats keeping hip hop alive. plus its some great artis who wouldnt be spittin if it werent for these gimics. My personal favorite group out of well known people is The Re-up gang. they're some of the best lyricist out (even though The Clipse outshine the other two on almost every track). it people werent listening to music about drugs, you would cease to hear them.





^^^^ damn i wrote a lot. i understand if no one reads this. meant to start with a simple reply to his statement and just didnt stop typing

And Luda is still a Top 3 Lyricist in the South.

Luda is one the best lyricist of all time...i could quote punchlines from him for days

yea but top 3 sounds better than top 10 which is where i see him overall now. all time i see him top 25

luda= dope.

the clipse= dope.

'nuff said. :thumbup:


s.v.

yea man niggaz be sleepin on the clipse. they better than 90% of niggaz thats rapping. dont get it twisted i grew up a major figgas fan so i got mad respect for ab-liva and i never really heard sandman until he got wit the group but he nice too. but the clipse as a duo is on a whole nother level

...definatly USE TO BE top 5 of all time....

....just had my sister show me that loli pop song.....how do people even call him a lyricist with shit like that PURE GARBAGE..i guess i never heard it cuz i dont listen to the radio but i knew my sister always listens to wack music and whats popular..people only like that song and others on the radio cuz they have 5 fucken songs on the rotation if you hear something enough times i guess it sticks with you..

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yeah you do have a point...i would just like to hear some other shit sometimes.

i know. thats why i rarely listen to the radio or watch tv. just download all of your music. and he makes songs like that cause he's a fuckin dope fiend. if it takes all of those drugs for people to say you're the best then i dont wanna be

^^^^^lmao another good point lol......i never thought of it that way..

wayne is beasthead ...yes..this song is illy yes...but you gotta get like the entire drought is over. five... ...dey know remix..killed it with the vocoder....i dunno i like wayne.. best rapper out right now....I"M BALLIN LIKE FADEAWAY SHE ON MY OSCAR MEYER LIKE LABOR DAY

true story^^^^^

i never denied his talent, i just clearly stated that he's only at his best when he's coked the fuck up