isnt obama half white?

sort of like meeting half way.. i guess its the first american president that has african blood and a slightly darker skin pigment...

i wanna be alive for the first mexican american president...

or the first asian american president...

now that shit would be something to see..

Yeah, I saw this last night when it was in your sig. Its just a bunch of random clips put together to make someone look bad in my opinion.


Those "better off" clips at the end I specifically know that in the first clip he was talking about we're better off as a country for going into Iraq. The second was saying that our economy is not better than it was 8 years ago. I remember watching that first part.....lol. This just shows how they're trying so hard to make this guy a flip flop.


Even at the end with all the tax cut shit.....there's all kinds of different tax cuts. Show the rest of the clips to see if he was talking about tax cuts for corperations, individuals, wealthy, middle class.......this isn't really showing me much.

how is Obama not a owning up to his mistakes??? N how is he avoiding them??

Dude was asked out smokin pot, he admits that every kid usally tries pot a view times regardless of their up bringing, including himself.

What makes Obama better than Mccain is that he isn't trying to be amazing, he's just trying to be average. He's fighting for the views of the every day American.

That was probably the only thing that he owned up to, but in all fairness, Bill Clinton's approval rating and likability went up after people found out he smoked weed.....lol.


But honestly, since you brought up Obama, what exactly does he plan to change? I tried making a thread about this and all I got was "go look it up yourself if you're that interested." I actually tried looking it up, even on his website, and got a bunch of general things he wants to change, but no plans. He wants to change things so the economy gets better......how? He wants to get the troops out of Iraq......how? Seriously, I'm at a total loss here :(

First i wanna address Q...

YOU DOUBTED OBAMA FROM THE GATE..... HATED ON HIM.... AND NOW LOOK AT YA GOOFY ASS!!! hahaa

Secondly.......

Regarding OBAMA and his message of change..... Nobody can outline a plan for and give you everything there going to do in order to make things better one way or the other goin in... What he is giving us though is a general idea of what he wants to do... the execution of all that will come in time.... I trust him to deliver us our freedom and lift us out of this economic situation... take us in the direction of cleaner fuels and independent energy.... LOWER FUEL COST... more jobs... and more money in MY POCKET :)

MCAIN = MORE OF THE SAME....

John boy is good for the army but not the American people at large....


just my lil 2 cents

Your two cents is flawed. Then again, if this was about who presented healthier plans, both Obama and Mccain would fail miserably.

Why? Mccain doesn't make his plans. He knows nothing about our economics and he hired someone to take care of that for him. That same person actually controls mortgage loans on houses and is fucking our economy over. Way to go Mccain.

obama just doesn't prevent plans. He says what he wants to do and that's it.

Which is better?

Obama. You don't need to be a creator of good plans to be able to see a good one. All obama needs are healthy advisers.

But unlike my candidates of choice, these two common candidates are pretty low in the scheme of ideas to save our country. Y'all should of actually checked out Mike Gravel. Brilliant man of our country.


Edit: spelling error. My apologies.

I thought you were a Ron Paul fan 2V? Anyway, I actually did a little, and I do mean little, research on Mr Paul. He's got so many good ideas, but his problem is that he takes them way too far. His economic plan would be a good example. He wants to go back to the gold standard and eliminate the Federal Reserve. He argues that the federal reserve is the reason our dollar is doing so bad and going back to the gold standard would solve our economic mess. What he fails to realize is that with no federal reserve to give people some relief from time to time, the majority of America would be in poverty. He does help raise eyebrows at the federal reserve though, which is in need of a fine tuning. He does seem like a brilliant man, but he seems a little too far out in left field some times and if he would get his way, I can see him really ruining the country. I'm definitely not saying he's a complete waste, cause he raised a whole hell of a lot of good points, but I think his going overboard on some issues is what cost him the republican nomination.......that and the fact that we got 8 years to learn about and see John McCain.


Obama, on the other hand, I really hope has some good plans somewhere. You can talk a big game all day long, but at the end of the day, if you have no results, you're a failure. I really hope this isn't the type of man he is, cause from the looks of it, he has a really good chance of becoming our next President.



Shout out to all of you guys for sticking to your guns and making this a nice debate instead of turning into a name calling fiasco. I've actually grown some more respect for all of you :thumbup:

"He argues that the federal reserve is the reason our dollar is doing so bad and going back to the gold standard would solve our economic mess."

Well, the price of a barrel of oil would be roughly $3.50 if we were still going by the gold standard. Economic solve? Call it a perma fix. Of course, our money would be limited in the world, we would still have a less amount of paper representing our treasury, meaning more value to the little pieces of paper we have.

"What he fails to realize is that with no federal reserve to give people some relief from time to time, the majority of America would be in poverty."

Money can be loaned whether or not it is represented by actual gold versus representation of itself.

"He does help raise eyebrows at the federal reserve though, which is in need of a fine tuning. He does seem like a brilliant man, but he seems a little too far out in left field some times and if he would get his way, I can see him really ruining the country."

Easy to imagine, the man is an idealist, but try to think of, How?

I can see ways every other candidate could, but I can't even guess one with Ron Paul. I've been told that because he wants to throw out some of the systems of money we have, retards would be roaming the streets homeless at night, but some 20 year old asshole said that on youtube. So meh

"Obama, on the other hand, I really hope has some good plans somewhere. You can talk a big game all day long, but at the end of the day, if you have no results, you're a failure. I really hope this isn't the type of man he is, cause from the looks of it, he has a really good chance of becoming our next President."

I don't care about either candidate. I've said that. <-This was my two cents. Sorry but I had to let it out for the last time. One more thing, fuck Bob Barr.

Dude...it's the one DROP rule



1 drop of black and YOUS A NEGRO!






U want some black in u Nos?



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^^ dont change the subject bitch, and man the fuck up. You are, and always are wrong.


@ E, its not that the best presidents have to have a amazing plan before office. Look at FDR. Great ideas usally come from the people themselfs asking for them. Obama's main focus is getting elected. Than he'll allow the people themselfs to change. He preaches that people need to change the country, that he can't do it for people. He can get the ball rollin, sorta speak, but he can't do it alone. He preaches for changes by the masses, not by the miniorities. Basically he's trying to make the country less depended, becuase alot of Americans are such pussy's now a days

So he'd be making them less depended? What?

I want to kick you in the face

^^^ says the guy with a pony tail

all i was stating was the Obama is tryin to make Americans LESS depend on other people. Back in the 50's America was hard working, less talk, and no bullshit. Now all we are is a bunch of fucking cry baby pussy who want other people to always fix our problems

you seen pirates of the carribean? thats basically my family history...

i wouldnt be all that doubtful that there is some darker skin pigments in my history...

my dad is dark as fuck like not just sun tan brown... but my mothers side is rooted in arian germany brother... i sort of take after her side a little more looks wise and his side a little more personality wise...

i guess..


notice how i ignored your sexual inuendo... lets just leave it at that pal.

Ok....I think I get his approach now. Tell me if I got it.....


Obama:

- wants to get the ball rolling on fixing our economy however it can be fixed
- wants to help solve the health care crisis by any means
- wants to help end the war in Iraq as soon as possible
- wants to give more power back to the people


All those seem like really good things, but its not really separating him from anyone else besides that last comment. And when people have more power, they also bear more responsibility. What people really want is power with no responsibility......lol. Anyway, I can see why he is liked and why people are going to vote for him, I now just don't see how he's any different than the other candidates. The only main difference between him and McCain is on the war in Iraq and that McCain actually has a couple of plans laid out.



Hmmmmm.......those two differences almost cancel each other out in my mind....lol.



I really want to see a debate between McCain and Obama that isn't like the last Democratic debate where they ask retarded ass questions, like "Obama, why don't you wear a flag pin?"