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10-09-08 07:03 PM
Everyone needs to stop trying to argue with mime.

Even if he holds no relevant point that anyone on the planet agrees with, he'll still, at a later point in time, say he "crushed you in that intellect shit"

so just keep it to yourself and hope one day that mime's brain will bloom into something more than a square box with spikes.

Blay'all 10-09-08 09:20 PM
Mim, I know what you're saying about us agreeing to disagree, but if you read my post i didn't really say anything that you could just "disagree" with... i pointed out the faults in what you said and i would like to know if you have any response to that. read my post again and please try and justify what you said...

10-09-08 10:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Bombay Blay
Mim, I know what you're saying about us agreeing to disagree, but if you read my post i didn't really say anything that you could just "disagree" with... i pointed out the faults in what you said and i would like to know if you have any response to that. read my post again and please try and justify what you said...


he already crushed you. He will admit that in the future.

I did the same thing yet he destroyed me intellectually. :| With no proof, still, he did it.

Dude's a murderer of all intellect. He'll get you too, watch out!

Magic5 10-10-08 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by TeamOne
ok fine Mim....

the main reason your argument holds no value is that most Americans think that Obama will do a better job at handling the economy (and now the financial crisis), so why would the possibility of him being elected be the catalyst? It would make more sense if people thought McCain was being elected because that's the person less Americans trust with their money and the economy. I know you think that personally Obama's economis plan is bullshit, but the important thing to note is we're talking about the American People, and they disagree with you.

Also, the main catalyst of this crisis and aftermath of the bailout has everything to do with public perception of the situation as much as the "actual cause". What I mean is that if experts all over the place saying "we might be in an economic crisis soon", "the economy is about to fall", etc, that will cause the collapse more than Anything, because when people dont know much about a situation they are more easily persuaded using heuristic cues. Meaning if they see an "expert", Senator, or News Anchor tell them the economy is about to suffer or "this bailout plan sucks", they will be more likely to believe them and act upon it, since most people didnt even really Know what the bailout plan meant and didnt really know Why the economy was failing in the first place.

Shit, Big companies have gone out of Business because of RUMORS that they were about to downsize and/or go bankrupt, rumors that had no value, but people jumped shit anyways..... but with the economy all it takes is for people to think that the economy to fail for it to Actually fail.


btw, McCain will cause a huger national deficit then Obama will... they both will increase it, but McCain's policies will send us farther south... look it up


The main reason that argument holds no value is because you're presenting the wrong statistic. The fact about 60-65% of Americans think Obama will do better with the economy doesn't address what I said. The statistic that you need, though unfortunately it's unattainable, is the percentage of money that's invested in the stock market that's controlled by Obama supporters. That would tell us something. I know it's unattainable because every second that the market is open that percentage will change. The proportion of Americans who think Obama will do better with the economy is bordering irrelevant because it doesn't tell us anything about the reason for the decrease in the stock market. The ONLY good thing that's come out of this gigantic drop in the stock market (right now the DOW is down 458 to 8,120) is that if Obama gets elected he can't raise taxes. I'm not suggesting or implying that the sole reason the market has dropped is the speculation about who the next president is going to be, but IN MY OPINION, it is a factor.

I agree with you in your next paragraph and I apologize if my first post was misleading. Obviously the stock market has not decreased as much as it has for one sole reason. I think part of it, as you mentioned, has to do with people pretty much saying, "You should be scared." Understandably, that will make people scared. In that sense I think you're right.

And I don't doubt that McCain will increase the national deficit, but right now I'm not worried about national debt. The crisis we're in now has nothing to do with how much national debt we have. The bailout wouldn't have been passed if national debt was a factor, as all it did was substantially increase it.

Magic5 10-10-08 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Adam
First off, he isn't a dictator.

Secondly, do you realize how much the US spends on that fucking war every day and how much the national debt is increasing? So let's spend a trillion dollars while we're already in the negatives, that's fucking brilliant isn't it? The man will lead that country into the greatest depression it's ever been in. Do you not think the first proposal was rejected for a reason?

McCain is fucked dude and Palin is 100 times worse.


Do you realize that the national debt has nothing to do with the crisis we're in? If it was a factor, why did the bailout pass the second time? It still increased national debt by a bunch. The amount of money the country owes has nothing to do with what's happening in the stock market now.

Magic5 10-10-08 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by 2v
Everyone needs to stop trying to argue with mime.

Even if he holds no relevant point that anyone on the planet agrees with, he'll still, at a later point in time, say he "crushed you in that intellect shit"

so just keep it to yourself and hope one day that mime's brain will bloom into something more than a square box with spikes.


Let me refresh your memory of what happened in the last thread.

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
Explain to me how the Republican Party fucked up the economy.


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Originally Posted by 2v
It WAS a republican and his party's influence that put us in this situation.


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Originally Posted by Mimesis
You can't explain it because they didn't fuck up the economy.


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Originally Posted by 2v
The war put us in debt.


We were talking about the financial crisis that we're in now. Adam said it was the Republican Party's fault. I asked how the Republican Party fucked up the economy, and you said the war put is in this situation, because the war put us in debt. I then went on to laugh at you for having no ability to distinguish between different types of debt, and then you said:

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Originally Posted by 2v
mimesis. stop responding to my posts. you look stupid as fuck. you can't comprehend what I write quite obviously. I said the war fucked up the economy.

And then I separated the "coming crisis" from the war. I never made any sort of relevance between the war fucking up the economy and the macro-economics you have lodged in your brain that will topple non-problematic situations like dominoes.


You didn't separate anything. You said the war put us in this situation, and after I called you on it, you backtracked and tried to say something different. I pointed that out to you and you decided not to respond because you looked like a fucking moron.

Magic5 10-10-08 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Bombay Blay
Mim, I know what you're saying about us agreeing to disagree, but if you read my post i didn't really say anything that you could just "disagree" with... i pointed out the faults in what you said and i would like to know if you have any response to that. read my post again and please try and justify what you said...


Fair enough.

You said (so I don't have to keep scrolling down):

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Originally Posted by Bombay Blay
wowwwwwwww, come on Mim... that was an extremely stereotypical republican elitist statement.

realllllllllllly, it couldn't be the failed Republican economic plans that have already been PROVEN to fuck up America? yeahhhhhh, its Obama's economic plans that are somehow already fucking up our economy. :rolleyes: nice republican excuse.

you know, the last 8 years have shown that Bush had a GREAT effect on our economy! :bored:


Bush has been one of the top 3 worst presidents in the history of this country, some are arguing that he's the worst. I don't disagree. He doesn't know what he's doing.

I don't know what you want me to say. The stock market is speculative. Many things cause and effect that speculation. In my opinion people do speculate about who they think the next president is going to be and what effect that will have on them. I've already said that McCain not supporting the bailout was the biggest mistake of his campaign, and sure enough, right about the time that he said that, the polls started showing growing popularity for Obama.

I offered what I believe to be a reasonable explanation for part of the drop in the stock market. The stock market is speculative and people are definitely speculating, just as we are, about who the next president is going to be.

Bush has fucked up quite a bit, but that doesn't mean people still don't speculate about other people and other things.

Magic5 10-10-08 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by 2v
he already crushed you. He will admit that in the future.

I did the same thing yet he destroyed me intellectually. :| With no proof, still, he did it.

Dude's a murderer of all intellect. He'll get you too, watch out!


You didn't do shit. You said national debt caused the crisis we're in which is fucking laughable and shows your ignorance. You're a fucking idiot and you don't even realize it. For the first time in a while I started responding to your posts in that last thread and look what happened. "National debt caused this situation." Then, "No Mimesis, you idiot, I said the war fucked up the economy but then separated the situation we're in!"

Nice try, retard. That's why I don't give a shit about your posts.

10-10-08 02:06 PM


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