^ oh yeah, and Straight Outta Compton by NWA

wogzta you should not talk on matters of hip hop go to an artfag site or something with that aesop shit and for you to think The Marshall Mathers LP with something good you and "new" then that proves to me you do not know what you talkin about

and to gunman yes the were about to fall off, abd when you first hear a classic you know what's up you know it's a classic,classics don't happen over time,you don't pick it up one day and say "wait a sec, there nothing worng with this,matter a fact this is a more than good", no you know it's all dope then first time

The MMLP was just a bit creative "shock" music.

Nas could only be described as G.O.A.T by what people think of him when he's gone. Don't kill me for this next remark, but we might never know who will be the truest greatest of all time. I mean, to me Jay-Z might not be considered any good because people are riding 2Pac. 2Pac had some great poetic moments, but in some ways image plays a part. Why is Biggie considered number 2? I felt both were on the same level lyrically. Maybe Biggie is number 2 because alot of people won't swallow their pride to say that the fat kid who everyone would've picked on could have been a better emcee. But it depends on what they accomplished.

how does this 12 year old Jai Blaze say Big was about to fall off? He got BETTER with his second album, that shows growth, so how does he go from growth to falling off? let me guess, your dad is your uncle so you have "special gifts" to see the future? Nas aint the Greatest, wanna know why? "Shorty whats your price",that annoying ass "I can", that horrible verse on "quick to back down" and a slew of others. Plus he has had to many lackluster albums,(Ever album after It was Written is rubish) like i said he isn't even in my top 5 anymore, and from that "quick to back down" bullshit, he is slipping out of my top 10.

oh and u don't just say "hey this is a classic" a classic changes hiphop, so explain to me how you change hiphop the second you hear a record? yeah u can't go over there in the corner, u are on time out.

i didnt say BIG was about to fall off, he's my fav. of all time...

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why is my name in this when i havent even posted before in this thread besides this and ^^^...

nas could easily be the goat... i can was lyrical education.. and quick to back down is nasty, he's just sick...

hmm i agree with mos of wat yall put but dont u think like G.O.A.T in like battlin who do u think that would be????
Id say Canibus or Copywrite then

Canibus or Copywrite mos def ain't the g.o.a.t of battlin but thats another story start that thread if you want

and gunman if you wanna talk about bullshit come on, big was rollin with muthafuckin puff daddy come on now, talk about money and shit and nas is better than big anyone knows point blank, "i can" was dope and classic's don't have to change the game, comeon now i really don't think anything could change the game right now



and i don't know why you were sayin Jai Blaze, i said big was about to fall off unless he said it to

nas aint betta den big, lol.. but thas my opinion..

some classics that havent been mentioned

death certificate-ice cube (the original mr. dontgive a fuck)
only built 4 cuban linx-rae(cant believe yall slept on the chef)
at the speed of life-xzibit(elevated west coast rap)

my opinion

good definition of a classic dawg

^Amerikkkas Most Wanted was better but to adress some comments I Can was a good song, it just wasnt a good single, 1luv.

I love The Lost Tapes.....listen to that and Illmatic the most.....

Word Bond, shut your mouth you piece of shit. Just cos you can't get your head out of your dirty ass and realise Aesop is quality music, doesn't mean you have to badmouth the people that like his stuff. I don't care if you dont like him, but dont say he is garbage cos you cant understand what hes saying because of your miniscule brain size. Anyway, i guess your one of those "anti-white" "rap-fans" since you think eminem sucks too. Your personal opinion doesnt mean shit, so dont insult people who have a different one.

nas aint a goat, but he is one of the best,
at the end of the day it will all come down to personal choice, if you asked most people 'who is the greatest rapper of alll time'
personally, i only own one nas album, which is nastradamus (present) but i have heard most of his songs. And lyrically e is speakin some ill shit, but for me the greatest album that will ever be made is one were

-every lyrics is great
-every beat is great

i ant sayin i dont like nas cos he has shit beats sometimes, i jut aint iinto was hes doin, but i respect him.

there will be no greatest of all time what peeps will agree on.

aiight

peace