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MADEvil... 01-28-04 06:30 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr W.Rite

as a matter of fact they do..but that just their opinion
never ending debate here because people will have their own mind
therwfore we will always agree to disagree


your right man.. this will never stop.. theres been a thread on every rap forum talkin about Nas, Jayz, Pac, and BIG.. talkin about whos nice and who was the best..

this shits over done.. =\

M.C. Shadow 13 01-28-04 08:22 PM

jay z is not over rated because jayz is natraly good

M.C. Shadow 13 01-28-04 08:23 PM

and nas is not over rated

Gunman tha Great 01-28-04 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ...OpeY...
"If skill sold, truth be told, I'd probably be lyrically Talib Kwali. Truthfully, I wanna rhyme like Common Sense, but I did 5 mil... I ain't been rhymin like common sense. when you sense got that much in common, and youve been hustlin since... your inception fuck perception, go with what makes cents. And since I know what I'm up against, as rappers we must decide what's most important. And I can't help the poor if I'm one of them, so I got rich and gave back... to me, thats the win-win"

That sums up his whole career.


And that stanza is dope as hell. Saying he gave back to the community, saying he is a hustler so he gave the public what they wanted but at the same time spit about the same shit.Kids these days don't know shit then form an opinion.Oh and that shit right there by the way was considered by Kweli and Big Daddy Kane as one of the dopest lines ever in a song

-Zone Out- 01-28-04 08:30 PM

Nas = wack = overrated = out his prime..

Gunman tha Great 01-28-04 08:31 PM

that statement=wrong thread=you're an idiot=kill yourself

Syntax Mastery 01-28-04 09:12 PM

aesop rock is overrated, slug is overrated, anitcon is overrated, eyedea is overrated, and whoever else the fuck you faggot textcees like is overrated...

Holl-a-kiss 01-28-04 09:36 PM

Yup overated!

-Zone Out- 01-28-04 09:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunman tha Great
that statement=wrong thread=you're an idiot=kill yourself

lol = damn = I got owned = I will shut up = :(

Auspicious25 01-28-04 09:42 PM

mixed opinions.... this just mine... ummmm yurp... hes not bad... but not as good as hes made out to be... but u know props.. the boa is makin tha paper.... i prefer less commerical stuff.... no hate... just opinion... 2 bad mine doesent matter (yet)

skillz 07 01-30-04 09:47 PM

yeah jayz is over rated

wogzta 01-31-04 05:26 AM

^ the only reason you say that is cos you cant get Illmatic out of your CD player. Stop comparing all Nas albums to Illmatic, and you might actually realize he has other good albums too.

And Jay-Z is not overrated. He is one of the dopest emcees around, whether you like it or not. Just because he makes money doesnt mean shit.

Bigg E Z 01-31-04 05:48 PM

His music is too comercial for me....

Syntax Mastery = FAGGOT...!!

Potent 01-31-04 07:19 PM

jay is not overated that is tha dumbest shit i eva heard

Envy Styles 01-31-04 07:47 PM

Even If He Is Overated..
He Deserves To Be...

wogzta 01-31-04 08:00 PM

Syntax Mastery, just because you dont like someone doesnt mean everyone has to share your views.

SpitefulEthics 02-01-04 01:35 AM

Quote:
Jay-z is overrated


Some people think he is, some people don't. It's all a matter of opinion, close this thread.

K.Largo 02-01-04 01:40 AM

my opinion hes not..
been in it too long made too many right moves
by now if he wasnt the real he would have washed out.
the guy would go in the studio and record on one take off the top
how many of u fuckas can do that?..rhyme scheme is dope too
go to jay back in the day and tell me something.

see it's now cool to say ure not into it, that your into underground
fuck the trend followers

wogzta 02-01-04 05:30 AM

^ word... it doesnt matter if its commercial or not... dope music is dope music...

Highlight 02-01-04 12:00 PM

If Jay Z is overrated

KRS
Rakim
Kool G Rap
LL Cool J
Ice Cube
Nas
Common

And any other defining mc of our time doesn't deserve any of the respect they've garnered and they're....overrated. NO rapper could do what Jay Z does...period.

da-one 02-01-04 12:16 PM

i think jay-z/hova/j-hova/sean carter/s.carter
is over rated but im not sayin he is not hot
he just make alot of songs that girls like and you know when you do that
then your the more records you sell. see most girls dont look at the lyrics
they just look at the beat and the hook
but dont get me wrong he is one of my favorites
some people dont get what he is sayon sometimes but if you think about it
you should(might) get it, thats why they dont know how good he is

Bigg E Z 02-01-04 02:21 PM

WTF.... I jus saw some1 say if Jay Z is overated, then LL Cool J is...

JESUS FUCKIN CHRIST.....

Highlight 02-01-04 02:44 PM

Meaning Jay Z is in those leagues. Especially with all the classics. He's put out as much material as any legend and it's just as good, if not better than their catalouges. He's just as old as KRS 1, Big Daddy Kane, Chuck D, Rakim, Kool G Rap, LL Cool J and all the rappers that carried the torch from the 80s to the 90s. Jay started in 88 with Big Jaz, went on tour with Daddy Kane and Main Source and even BURNT Big Daddy Kane in a battle in the early 90s. Primo, Ski, Mr Cee etc did the production on Reasonable Doubt for practically NOTHING because he paid his dues and was obviously a legend in the making. Jay Z made the guiness book of world records because of his magnitude in the hip hop market. He's not some pretty nigga making poppy songs because everybody's doing it. He innovates, people copy him. Jay became a legend from sheer skill, and there's nothing overrated about his skills or his career.

Potent 02-01-04 02:48 PM

JAY Z is a legend he aint overrated hes haas to many dope cds to back that up u need to close this thread jayz is not overated and that a FACT

sdizzle 02-01-04 02:48 PM

jayz = great flow..... hes my role model for flow, while nas is my role model for creativity, and kweli's my rolemodel for lyrics.... so put those rappers togethe rand u get me, lol jk.... but jiggas def. not overrated, hes a pioneer, a genious, spits without writing, i like all rappers, well all cept pac, now thats a nigga that was overrated

Potent 02-01-04 03:04 PM

Sorry Dawg Pac Was Not Overated U Need Slapped For That 1 I Got All Of His Cd's And There Aint A Song On Any Cd I Dont Like He Was The Best Eva In My Opinion Because He Was Real He Aint Rap Bout Dumbshit So To Say He Was Overated U Must Not No What Real Rappin Is

Penskills 02-01-04 03:09 PM

buleprint was a classic though....

Bigg E Z 02-01-04 03:29 PM

He is good, I dont EVER doubt that....But he is over rated.... Blueprint was a classic, made some changes in hip hop...
But he aint done enough (By himself as an artist) in hip hop to be praised the way he is...

He Co-Leads The Roc, But, thats a Buisnes...He Aint praised enough for that...
But his music is overated.....

I might bounce my head to a phew songs, but it would never make me want to go out and buy an album... WHAT IS JAY Z ALL ABOUT....??

Answer that and u might relise what im trying to say..!!

In a way, LL sboilt Hip Hop...(in my eyes)

Its Peeps like him who made hip hop all about the money...THATS JUS CANCEROUS....

Highlight 02-01-04 03:37 PM

Damn Bigg E Z, what about Slick Rick? What was he all about?

Bigg E Z 02-01-04 03:42 PM

He was a nice writter...He had Skill...But he allso was only in it for the money....

Def Jam used him....Like a fuckin farm horse....

Made money out of him, then left him to rot in prisson....

If Jay Z wasnt proffitable, would Def Jam go 2 all the trouble to Mother The Roc...

If Jay Z wudnt co-operate with Def Jam, and do what they told him to do, would he be as big as he is today...!

Highlight 02-01-04 03:45 PM

Your whole view on Hip Hop is jaded

Bigg E Z 02-01-04 03:50 PM

Jus ask 50% of the board...RAP IS ONLY A BANK...!!!

Its Hip Hop that i love...

The people who truly LOVE the art cuz of the feel good factor...Not the cheque they recieve..!!

HeXen 02-02-04 04:09 PM

Jay-z is top man......he is no of da gr8s dawd....he cool!!!!

Bigg E Z 02-02-04 04:25 PM

What...??

Timeless 02-03-04 09:28 AM

jay-z is a well respected rapper and i agree, he is just as good as people say he is, and if ya dissagree the you havent listend to his lyrics properly.

SWINGAWAY 02-03-04 12:27 PM

Who Is He Over Rated Jay Z Is Like P Diddy He Can Run Anything

Akurei 02-10-04 10:06 PM

Ummmm Jay is Beyond Over rated

Orpheus Rex 02-10-04 10:14 PM

Nah...He's Just That Good...

...OpeY... 02-10-04 10:23 PM

Jay-z is over rated = youre an idiot


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