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Born To Kill 02-04-04 12:40 PM

Isn't this topic even older than me?

It's been done to death.

Yeah, text is the foundation of rap.

No decent song ya ever heard on any CD...

DMX, Eminem, Jay-Z, fucking Aesop, Nelly...

NONE OF EM FREESTYLED THAT IN THE STUDIO!!!

But in battling?

Sure, text means a prewrite.

And prewrites are frowned upon.

So, yeah, no doubt...

Dissing from the hip is more respected.

But, in the end...

Whichever way ya look at it...

SO FUCKING WHAT!!!???!!!

Edicius 02-04-04 12:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlem's Finest
...

Judging by the many dumb responses to the thread... it seems to have slipped most peoples minds...

Judging ur name u choose to use on a board, it seems to slip thru ur mind.

Dont talk back..i rest my case..

Token 02-04-04 12:47 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The End
^ Cock Jockey.


And I DO think that textcees are wack. So what? Does that mean I will mock or crack on them for being a textcee? No.. Everyone is free to do whatever they enjoy, and that's what they do on this site.


Oh, and I dont consider a Poet a Textcee.


:thumbup:


Brandon, Every person that disagrees with you and agrees with another is a cock jockey. We are also free to discuss opinions.

Harlem's Finest 02-04-04 12:48 PM

Its an artists alias..

And personally.. I don't think a name is that important.. A name can be changed.. dumb comments on threads stick..

Cave Canem 02-04-04 12:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Syntax Mastery
everybody remotely nice left... and newbie textcees have taken over

:spit:

*waits for everyone to come in and agree acting like im not talking about them*

?


The Only Prob I Have Is When They Start Sendin' PM's To Vote On They Shit Or Make Them A Banner When U Don't Even Know Them Fools....















Still Wouldn't Do It If I Did But That Shit Annoyin'....

fgee 02-04-04 12:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Edicius
Judging ur name u choose to use on a board, it seems to slip thru ur mind.

Dont talk back..i rest my case..



Whats in the case?

Edicius 02-04-04 01:05 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlem's Finest
Its an artists alias..

And personally.. I don't think a name is that important.. A name can be changed.. dumb comments on threads stick..

Thats why i feel so bad for you..

But yea Fgee.. :gfy:

Ghost.

fgee 02-04-04 01:11 PM

i too can count to 4...

self 02-04-04 01:44 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Harlem's Finest
Its an artists alias..

And personally.. I don't think a name is that important.. A name can be changed.. dumb comments on threads stick..


I would have to disagree. People strive long and hard to find a good name.
A name is a representation of a person, so why would you want to represent yourself with something that isn't important?
I know personally if I see a name that isn't appealing, I most likely won't bother to check out what they have to say.

"Chingy"...yeah, that makes me want to go and buy his CD.

Bio*Chemist 02-04-04 01:46 PM

Everyone is wack everyone is Nice…Blah
There is some talent here that I have seen
Just don’t get recognized and I do audio
Just don’t have the pc downloads so heads
Can listen to it. oh well…as for text…I can say
I can be real good and sometimes I can be blah

Blah..

Harlem's Finest 02-04-04 01:48 PM

I couldn't care less who peeps my shit to be honest..

I'm hardly gonna make it big.. I do this for fun..

*Also.. Evolve.. you were proved wrong.. and dish out but can't take shit.
Sooo.. you change my avy.. comical.. you're 25.. obviously your mom still fights your battles 'cos you can't do it properly*

Bio*Chemist 02-04-04 01:51 PM

Oh ish that was cold…
Harlem world lol…
Damn I am 25 as well I didn’t know
We was the same age Evolve lmao

$pitacular 02-04-04 01:51 PM

how are all of you gonna post verses on a site, then talk shit about textcees? I'm not a textcee - I'm an emcee that posts text on RB, that's all. This is just recreation, I make real music not just a bad net reputation...

It's always good to keep writing, keep your skillz sharp, and to get criticism.

fgee 02-04-04 02:40 PM

thats it ^

The End 02-04-04 02:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Token
Brandon, Every person that disagrees with you and agrees with another is a cock jockey. We are also free to discuss opinions.


Well, when you ride Bruklors, Axe's, Feebles, Cprogs and a few others dick all day long, I call you a cock jockey. If someone else would say the shit they do, you would most likely disagree with it. But instead, you see a their name, and agree instantly.


Quote:
Originally Posted by $pitacular
how are all of you gonna post verses on a site, then talk shit about textcees? I'm not a textcee - I'm an emcee that posts text on RB, that's all. This is just recreation, I make real music not just a bad net reputation...

It's always good to keep writing, keep your skillz sharp, and to get criticism.


If you actually make music, then I wouldn't categorize you as a textcee. I am more aiming at the people that simply write text, and consider themselves a dope emcee or rapper.

:nono:

Yu Bin SunD 02-04-04 02:55 PM

^^ Yep They Just Do Text Cause They Know Their Audio Sucks And They Only Would Be Workin On Trash If They Did....I Do Audio...Text Is For Fun But I Suck At It

Aisle Phive 02-04-04 03:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by The End
If you actually make music, then I wouldn't categorize you as a textcee. I am more aiming at the people that simply write text, and consider themselves a dope emcee or rapper.

:nono:


That's not me at alll. I don't even rap, I don't look like the type to rap, a few people know I do. But I don't consider myself an emcee, I don't even plan on doing audio. Audio takes skill, but if you sound commercial, then you can sell anything. Even if the lines suck, you can have songs that are just 'club bangers' or something you listen to while you drive. If I actually planned on rapping, I would have gotten the audio equipment by now. Text as you call it, is more like a hobby I have to kill some time. Sure audio takes skill, as in getting on beat, flowing, sounding good, quality, writing skills to a point. But pure writing takes much more skill than audio, there are few audio heads that are decent at text. I know Salvation is pretty dope at text and audio, a few others as well. But just writing, making it sound witty, the wording, the fresh concepts, how hard each line hits, the flow, the set up, and everything else is a factor. And it's much harder to impress a veteran on a rap site than just any ordinary person. Which is why when I hear some kid at my school, saying how "this line is ill" or "this rapper is dope" I can laugh to myself, cause they have no idea what's good and what isn't. That's why commercial rap is so big n sells so much, period.

The End 02-04-04 03:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Aisle Phive
That's not me at alll. I don't even rap, I don't look like the type to rap, a few people know I do. But I don't consider myself an emcee, I don't even plan on doing audio. Audio takes skill, but if you sound commercial, then you can sell anything. Even if the lines suck, you can have songs that are just 'club bangers' or something you listen to while you drive. If I actually planned on rapping, I would have gotten the audio equipment by now. Text as you call it, is more like a hobby I have to kill some time. Sure audio takes skill, as in getting on beat, flowing, sounding good, quality, writing skills to a point. But pure writing takes much more skill than audio, there are few audio heads that are decent at text. I know Salvation is pretty dope at text and audio, a few others as well. But just writing, making it sound witty, the wording, the fresh concepts, how hard each line hits, the flow, the set up, and everything else is a factor. And it's much harder to impress a veteran on a rap site than just any ordinary person. Which is why when I hear some kid at my school, saying how "this line is ill" or "this rapper is dope" I can laugh to myself, cause they have no idea what's good and what isn't. That's why commercial rap is so big n sells so much, period.


Alright Professor, writing a novel sized post really wasn't necessary, but point taken. ( I still feel audio is harder and requires more skill than text though.. )

Mr W.Rite 02-04-04 03:36 PM

i agree with aisle...texting is just a hobby..i dont take it seriously
its just something to do on the internet...but it has giving me a whole new outlook on writing, wether for a rap song, rb, or whatever i have a whole new respect for people
who do it for a living cus its a lot harder than i thought..


but back to the original topic..
i dont really think the site has lost its talent pool...
its just that its so many newbs...its getting out of control
if you stay out of the front lines and focus on elite and LLL
you'll see the talent is still here..its just new talent with a few of the older heads
hangin in there...
i always enjoy the battle in LLL...especially lately
i have seen some really good verses recently...
people like
feeble minded
walter wall
Av...
Evolve (even though he is sitting out for a while)
lethargic
koalatee
cam
aisle 6, ooopps i mean aisle phive...<----*failed attempt at humor*
among others of course
these guy are pretty consistent text battlers...
and i dont think
textin is a waste of time if you really enjoy
it just all about personal preference i guess

$pitacular 02-04-04 03:36 PM

^^Audio def takes much more talent as far as when you are in the industry... you have to have a tight flow, well written lyrics, deliver them right with an original tone and you have to market yourself in both your lyrics and in general... so text is a breeze when you compare it to that. If that weren't true, then there would be 90 thousand successful rappers and only a handful of textcees... lol

Born To Kill 02-04-04 04:07 PM

I wonder what 90 thousand successful rappers would look like...

And those would have to be very small textcees.

High Class 02-04-04 04:08 PM

Theres High points and low points, were just on a low one.
So, im just ganna wait it out...

Born To Kill 02-04-04 04:14 PM

I don't think we're on a low point at all...

Fucka RB "used to be"...

We're in the here and now and we have plenty of good slingas...

That are tight as fuck.

So many of them just don't battle regularly...

Stay in leagues only...

Or alter their records and get alias after alias...

So ya can never tell how good they are by their appearance or reps.

So, there's some of ya problem.

But don't say there isn't anyone good here...

AND, NO...I'M NOT COUNTING MYSELF!

Lirael One 02-04-04 04:17 PM

I could give a fuck less what you guys think of me, i dont need attention from otherscreennames online to feel good about myself. Your all entitled to your opinion, but i write nice. Period. I dont care if you think text is wack, or that audio is harder.

Syntax basically hit the nail on the head with this - im just surprised it took him soooooooo fucking long. Why did you think Listen and everyone left in the first place?!

Haha.

Aisle Phive 02-04-04 04:27 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by $pitacular
^^Audio def takes much more talent as far as when you are in the industry... you have to have a tight flow, well written lyrics, deliver them right with an original tone and you have to market yourself in both your lyrics and in general... so text is a breeze when you compare it to that. If that weren't true, then there would be 90 thousand successful rappers and only a handful of textcees... lol


To be successful, you do not need well written lyrics. Most "well written lyrics" only appeal to those who write and appreciate it themselves. Hence why so many of the best artists are underground and do not get discovered in a commercial sense. And know, you do NOT need to be original to sell. Look at Chingy, his style is used by so many artists and is one of the top selling artists around. Jay Z was one of the first to use the laid back style that many have tried to copy. You're acting like text sells, it doesn't, it's a hobby for most, a lifestyle for some (cough baron cough).

MuhThugga 02-04-04 04:28 PM

I like to write. So what?

Maybe I don't have the most fitting name for my style and maybe I don't come out with pieces every other fucking day, but that is me. Some consider me to be a good writer, others don't. I really don't care about my level of talent. I just write to get thru the day easier and it keeps me sane.

This topic appears on every site I have ever been to since I started joinging Hip-Hop boards. It is the same shit over and over again.
So-and-so used to be here, man he was so dope.
The old vets would destroy the site now.
These new cats are so weak.

The problem is that people don't realize that those people are gone, and they only reason they appear to have godly talent is because we were newbies when they were vets and we were still developing our own writing styles. Now as we have progressed and gotten better, we look at the newbies and think they are weak. The same will happen with the newbies once they come around. It is a Highschool life cycle. Get used to it.

Edicius 02-04-04 04:31 PM

I bought a new Guitar YO!!!....damn wrong tread my bad.

Nah but seriously, I see all these people with essays of replys, whats up with that?
Writing is good, but fuck,..Im here to kill time not to be a rapper or a emcee, im a writer.

Lirael One 02-04-04 04:32 PM

Newbie - do not even fucking type my screenname in your posts. Your nothing to me. The only reason you even got noticed here at all is when i signed out of the leagues after going through those shits undefeated so dont even try to act like your opinion means shit here.

GO SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF RB AND POST YOUR SHIT AND SEE IF ANYONE GIVES YOU PROPS.

They wont.

Phoeniix 02-04-04 04:36 PM

yeah seriously. text battling is a hobby. nothing more at all. its just for fun. and they are alot of good heads here. u just have to look in the right places.
it makes sense...of course most of the people on the site are gonna suck at first....and new people are joining every day....and as new kids become good....the vets begin to leave for whatever reason....
just like muthugga said about highschool

Edicius 02-04-04 04:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lirael One
Newbie - do not even fucking type my screenname in your posts. Your nothing to me. The only reason you even got noticed here at all is when i signed out of the leagues after going through those shits undefeated so dont even try to act like your opinion means shit here.

GO SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF RB AND POST YOUR SHIT AND SEE IF ANYONE GIVES YOU PROPS.

They wont.


Fuck you be! Ic.. o.O They fucking blocked me YO!..Britney newbs.

High Class 02-04-04 04:45 PM

There wouldnt be great music unless it is written. So I think people just say," Text Sucks." To make themselves fell better about there faggot cool edit pro on there computer. Its all pointless and pathetic, and also... Who the fuck started that subject in this Thread???

Edicius 02-04-04 04:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by High Class
There wouldnt be great music unless it is written. So I think people just say," Text Sucks." To make themselves fell better about there faggot cool edit pro on there computer. Its all pointless and pathetic, and also... Who the fuck started that subject in this Thread???

I always thought nirvana freestyled =(

Aisle Phive 02-04-04 05:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lirael One
Newbie - do not even fucking type my screenname in your posts. Your nothing to me. The only reason you even got noticed here at all is when i signed out of the leagues after going through those shits undefeated so dont even try to act like your opinion means shit here.

GO SOMEWHERE OUTSIDE OF RB AND POST YOUR SHIT AND SEE IF ANYONE GIVES YOU PROPS.

They wont.


Was that directed at me?

If it was, tell me, I'll sonn you after I go to the gym.

Born To Kill 02-04-04 06:02 PM

^^^ More beef than Wendy's!!!

B.I.Detained 02-04-04 06:06 PM

<< does text & audio on net
audio outta net

Text= Novelty is wearing off baaaaddddd
Audio= not enuff talent on RB

Horud Skys 02-04-04 06:12 PM

Str8 Up we do Text caz we are bored and it gives us sumthing to do unlike dumb fucks like the audio cats here who are worthless and trash and swear there gonna get signed... Let Me Tell u Guys Sumthing.. no matter how nice u get ur not gettign signed dickheads.. u guys swear u are but ur just wasting ur life rapping and when u send it in on demos they get thrown in the trash u talk bout text and how were dumb asses but u guys put ur whole ffort into a demo send it in and they just throw it away... I mean u guys names is wack 'The end' fuck is that name or spitacular fuck outta here.. Oh and i luv how u guys say when i get big ima be str8 underground.. NO The fuck U Aren't they won't sign ur ass talking bout ur struggles fuck outta here no cares but ur shit when we got our own problems

Alll u Audio heads got son'd

MeNTiLL 02-04-04 06:15 PM

Eh .. He's not talkin' about me ..

Thesis 02-04-04 06:15 PM

Lol I Text For Kicks
I Also Do Audio And
Personally Being A Netcee
In General Is Whack.
I Hate How Audio Heads
Talk All That Shit Sayin
I'm Such A Great Audio
Head And They Dont Even
Have Shit Outside Of Soundclick.
I Usually Do This Shit Outta Shear
Boredom And Some People Just
Take The Net Waay To Serious.

Feeble Minded 02-04-04 06:20 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Token
Brandon, Every person that disagrees with you and agrees with another is a cock jockey. We are also free to discuss opinions.


and brandons opinion is that you are a cock jockey :thumbup:

by the way - for those of you who say text is harder, there is no real comparison either way. in text you can have wordplay and things that the reader can only see because its in text, whereas if you put it into audio it wouldnt make sense to them. but in audio you have more of a limit on what you can say, so that it will be understood. .. whereas in text you have no beat .. the reader can use their own, so "is your beat good" is not a question - there is none. there are many comparisons between the two, it comes down to doing what you enjoy. .. like my essay?

$pitacular 02-04-04 06:34 PM

Horud Skys... guy never sees the silver lining, no wonder the name

anyone that really does emcee - I know I don't have to tell you - but don't let some immature herb tell you that you can't make it. The only people with talent that don't make it are the ones that give up because of assholes that tell them they ain't gonna make it... and once you make it, why the fuck would you want to be underground? Save that for when you die...


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