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self 02-16-04 08:51 AM

I think you're holding yourself back by even thinking about stuff like this.

Provoke 02-16-04 08:56 AM

I think they could easily make it...
And still people saying Eminem is basically wack.. thats dumb..
We all know he's pretty tight lyrically.. its just taking into account the mainstream fanbase that makes people say otherwise..

Straight Ace 02-16-04 08:59 AM

Look Eminem is nice, but fact is.. if he would've been black he would not have been this big.. ever.
Jin? ..a little hype it'll blow over soon..
Basically because he's nothin special.
People say rap is a expression... say anyone can express theirselves through it.
Just when u do.. stick to ur own culture.. & dont go around saying "nigga"
Cause it's so "cool"

Provoke 02-16-04 09:04 AM

Maybe not..
But when you come to think about it... he musta worked a hell of a lot harder to get where he is now being white..
From street corners, to radio spots etc.. Once Dre signed him.. thats when the white issue carried him even further maybe..
But til then.. I'd say he worked harder than most, and deserved it.

Straight Ace 02-16-04 09:11 AM

You do realize its all basically an act?
I mean 80% of the rappers now a days must've had a rotten childhood..
Yet M&M is the only rapper to speak out about it..
& not because he 'expresses' himself.. but because it scores..
I mean how many times we've heared him say he is going to kill his mom now?
Just do it already jeez..
But what i dont like about him as a person.. not as a artist..
Is that he is obviously a wigger or w/e u want to call those ppl..
But get's glory for it..
Yet ppl like Young P get crushed.
It's all so unfair lol..
& bout M&M workin hard?.. gettin laughed at is not workin hard..
Thats gettin what u so fairly deserve.

Provoke 02-16-04 09:14 AM

Man... you're dumb..

By working hard, I don't mean be bullied in his younger days.
I mean being recognized and working his way up thru hip hops levels whilst being white, whilst being underestimated and dismissed. Esp. as Vanilla Ice was the last damn white guy to rap more or less, creating the white is wack stereotype..

Straight Ace 02-16-04 09:20 AM

Well i did agree he worked hard on that point didnt i?
But i dont agree with he has worked harder then no other..
I still say he's nothin special...
The only reason he stands out is because the current state of hip hop is expierincin a all time low.

Soul-Full 02-16-04 04:02 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Straight Ace
Well i did agree he worked hard on that point didnt i?
But i dont agree with he has worked harder then no other..
I still say he's nothin special...
The only reason he stands out is because the current state of hip hop is expierincin a all time low.


Rakim, Kanye West, Dr Dre are all dropping albums 2004....Nas and Jay just released what, 2 albums int he last year and a half, outkast just sold about 8 million copies of their cd, shall i continue?

Hip-Hop is not experiencing an alltime low buddy, look around, notice the award shows, notice commercials, notice who is getting noticed, ill tell you one thing, Sure as hell aint fred durst.

WooT

Penskills 02-16-04 04:03 PM

not happening....Jin's one in million...

Gunman tha Great 02-16-04 04:08 PM

^^^^^^^^2 Bad his first song sucked, now people that actually still like him are One in a Million

Bio*Chemist 02-16-04 04:19 PM

Everyone is a legitimate contender ..That’s my take on it.
They could bring a knew style and flavor to the Hip Hop culture
Just don’t ever forget who were the originators

Soul-Full 02-16-04 04:29 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunman tha Great
^^^^^^^^2 Bad his first song sucked, now people that actually still like him are One in a Million


Hey when u put down the backpack and realize its selling....

:thumbup:

M.Perror Ming 02-16-04 04:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Gab
Besides Jin what other asian rappers are around?



Well this will answer some of your question.


List
Jin
Asia Continental
Baby T
Chosen One (my favorite)
Csteroc
DYP Tha Goldynchild
Snacky Chan
Tong

Gunman tha Great 02-16-04 04:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul-Full
Hey when u put down the backpack and realize its selling....

:thumbup:


Actually that 'learn Chineese' shit aint even selling, when u do a single there are 2 factors u judge it on

Commercial and Critical Success

That song has neither, shit barely makes it on RapCity and they have 2 hours to fill of nothing but RAP songs.

Soul-Full 02-16-04 04:57 PM

Ok BuDDy

M.Perror Ming 02-16-04 05:16 PM

It isnt a gimmick....just because Asian Rappers are becoming noticed a little at a time doesnt mean its a new trend either. Its just like Dizzy Rascal the dude from England, what is he the first rapper from Britain to go minor big?? Once people that are there own race/nationality go big makes you feel like your thoughts of someone never doing it happens. Then you wanna do it so your culture grows bigger and bigger in that topic. Like soccer in America, its a new sport but it has been played in different countries for a long time. Just like rap with Asian or Latins or Nordics or something, it is new. If anyone wants to debate, I am willing to. Have a nice day...lol.

wogzta 02-17-04 12:53 AM

A define a gimmick in hip-hop as (and you dont have to agree with me, I dont care): an emcee who SELLS or IS SUCCESSFUL based PURELY on his or her "STAND OUT IMAGE", but has NO actual SKILLS.

Since Jin is quite a dope freestyler, and is above average in battles - I dont consider him a gimmick. I bob my head to some of his songs, and he comes of very dope in freestyles. Same goes for Eminem - lyrically dope, interesting, good delivery.

A gimmick would be:

Nelly - no skills, just attractive to women and has a weird voice.
Chingy - no skills, just invents slang words which sells.
Bizarre - no skills, just says lots of explicit stuff so kids will buy it.
Vanilla Ice - no skills, could pass for a regular bling bling rapper - but sells higher than most cos of his colour.

Notice how each "gimmick" started with "no skills"? You get the point now.

BTW, Asian Rappers? The Chosen One is dope as fuck.

Timeless 02-17-04 06:07 AM

i like asian rappers, their quite good as well, now all we need is a welsh rapper, ummmm!!

DaviD WoRdplay 02-17-04 06:09 AM

Who gives a fuck.... there's MC's from all different cultures & backgrounds

M.Perror Ming 02-17-04 07:08 AM

I agree wogzta The Chosen One is my favorite. I like his music better then Jin`s.

Lokinator 02-17-04 07:17 AM

C-Section is also dope

Syntax Mastery 02-17-04 08:10 AM

wow@this

of course its a gimmick in a predominatly black culture... at first...

its like being white isnt a gimmick anymore... its really a shame that race is a gimmick... everyone should have 1 love

KytoKhouang 02-17-04 06:17 PM

I rap for fun, not for show, no gimmicks no nothing. I'm out rapbattles.com because I get bored and I just spit rhymes on the net.

GOT RICE BITCH!! ASIAN PRIDE!!

LAOS 4 EVER!!

Shout outs to all my peeps in SouthEast Asia!! We REPRESENTING!! Slant Eye Til I Die!

Mag... 02-17-04 06:19 PM

k maybe that was a little gimmicky...lmao

but at least he reps da slanty eyes...

{Peace}

.:FiorZ:. 02-17-04 06:22 PM

yh....maybe nxt gimmik but sum are skilld......

hmmmmmmm....actually, non are skilld except jin...then agen...i aint heard many

MichaelMadness 02-17-04 06:52 PM

No respect for asian artists....Stick to making fortune cookies and fried rice, yes even Jin!! My man WeeGee Ripped Jin Twice(first time jin thought his shit was written, so they battled again and WeeGee killed him again) At Club Amnesia's(Who's The Illest 607)Just Last year, a event that jin was sponsoring, judges even voted for my man, yet Jin brags hes unbeaten...I have seen nothing special from any asian artist....Yes, A big gimmick!

beNNy bLanCo 02-17-04 06:53 PM

i dont think they are good contenders... no one wants to hear about growing up in the richest part of town zooming around in merecedes and acuras

HK The Great 02-18-04 12:01 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul-Full
No that doesnt make it a gimmick you monkey...please refer to dictionary.com and look up gimmick.

If you was 5'8" and you played ball somewhat. Then u seen spud webb or earl boykins standing at like 5'6", and was like..damn if he can play then i can play, and u look up to him...does that mean short people in the NBA are a gimmick..lmfao...no

If your saying that jin is ONLY rapping because he is asian and they are trying to make money off of that fact solely, and he truley does not have talent, THEN that makes him a gimmick.

getting facts/defentions straight before entering into discussions is always recommended.

one



my facts are straight... u just took what i said wrong... now jin does have talent... as a freestyle artist... he had drag on,swizz beats and cross teach him how to write songs... anyway this dudes songs are wack, he used tired ass punchlines and shit, shit i would say ina battle and i suck... so do i think he is tryin to make money off his race? yeah, his first fuckin single is called Learn fuckin chinese... sure he has some shread of talent but the biggest part of his hype is that hes fuckin asian... so to me this is just a annoying ass gimmick... because hes playin off his fagget ethnicity... and as for the earl boykins thing... thats a different situation cuz ur not there solely for him, ur there for the team, and he doesnt make anymore money if u buy tix or not, since his contract is set... now jin makes more money themore he sells, so hes doin everything he can to make money... as where boykins has to actually produce good quality in order to make money...

wogzta 02-18-04 01:15 AM

^ i get you, but this is the way you should think about it : Jin is a gimmick. Not this way : Asians are a gimmick.

Thats a subliminal form of racism. I'm not saying your racist, but you might be discriminating a tad too much.

BTW, tad means little.

TiLLEyEDiE 02-18-04 01:22 AM

i think yall should chill.. jin is the only asian thats out now.. soo dont say all asians are gimmicks.. i dont use my backround too get votes on a battle or too get replies on a open mic i fuckin rep were im from because im proud of it.. not because i could use it too get eyes upon me ok??? soo dont say asian rappers are a gimmick


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