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Ca'lam 09-12-04 12:47 AM

hmm.. flow wise, i would really say, we have over all as a people better rhythem.. but liek you, iv seen white kids get pretty nasty with theres

Ca'lam 09-12-04 12:49 AM

i agree ^

La Cosa Nostra 09-12-04 12:50 AM

Ok, for starters, I know your not racist, this is jus a discussion bro.. However.

See, racism did exist.. But its over now, and the longer people keep bringing it up like it was yesterday, the longer it will continue..

And im not trying to be rude, but I think a lot of the time black people use it as a defence mechanism.. The minute they get called racist in any way, they jump back and say "Hey we were slaves man were allowed to be racist to everyone else"..

Not literally, but notice how you jumped the conversation back to slavery almost the minute the first guy got called out for being racist.

Just my opinion.

50Cal. 09-12-04 12:50 AM

no ho im pourtuguess we ran the slave trade but before that the mongoleans had us in the slave trade jews was slaves to the egyptians also blacks and the italians was slaves to hannibal so dont try that bullshiy whites was slaves too jews for 4000 years to your 500 and pourtuguess for 140 and we are euros so dont try it everyone has been in slavery that is no excuse

Capital B 09-12-04 12:53 AM

in a way black people are very racist some times..... not to be ractist but a black man will bring up the fact they are black all the time, does this sound familliar.... "Its cuz im black."

~Ku$tUm-Im@gE~ 09-12-04 12:56 AM

what happend to alays having some shit to say back u havent talked in a while....that may be true b ut i dont see u makin millions of dollars......dont be mad becuz mr rogers is white and can rhyme better then u....and i bet u 85% of us ''white rappers'' can beat ur skank ass.............

Immense 09-12-04 12:57 AM

fuckin fool for startin this thread...........biatch dumb fuck.........wots wit all the racial shit.......thts like me sayin a black doctor aint as good as a white one....or a black lawyer aint as good as a whit one.............how can ur skin colour make a difference....dumb fuck.......

Ca'lam 09-12-04 12:57 AM

welll first off,i thought he said something else.. and racism is far from over.. your not living in reality lol.. racism is EVERYWHERE.. and i aint just talking about white to black or black to white.. u got hispanics, you got jews, u got em all... and its not jsut a defence mechanism.. you really cant see it through our eyes.. i know you think you can, but you cant.... i mean.. untill u know what it feels liek to walkinto a liquor store 5/10 times and be constantly stared at, due to the fact, and only the fact that your skin is dark brown or crispy butter pecan brown lol.. and u talk and walk and dress a certain way, you will never understand what it is to be born that way with out a choice.... now i aint crying over shit,c ause i live in a white neightborhood with nice big lawns and basketball hoops, and pools.. (hot white gurls :thumbup: )... but i have also seen the other side of thangs.. so na racism is still here.. and its never gonna be gone.. its jsut part of life..

Ca'lam 09-12-04 01:00 AM

Jus tmy opnion tho... but since your a.i, i still wub you :)

Know-Gimix 09-12-04 01:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Calamity
welll first off,i thought he said something else.. and racism is far from over.. your not living in reality lol.. racism is EVERYWHERE.. and i aint just talking about white to black or black to white.. u got hispanics, you got jews, u got em all... and its not jsut a defence mechanism.. you really cant see it through our eyes.. i know you think you can, but you cant.... i mean.. untill u know what it feels liek to walkinto a liquor store 5/10 times and be constantly stared at, due to the fact, and only the fact that your skin is dark brown or crispy butter pecan brown lol.. and u talk and walk and dress a certain way, you will never understand what it is to be born that way with out a choice.... now i aint crying over shit,c ause i live in a white neightborhood with nice big lawns and basketball hoops, and pools.. (hot white gurls :thumbup: )... but i have also seen the other side of thangs.. so na racism is still here.. and its never gonna be gone.. its jsut part of life..


sad but true, people in general are just retarted unfortunately and theres not much you can do but hope someone dont blow us all up before the slow ones evolve a little.

Immense 09-12-04 01:03 AM

^^^thts bullshit cal.....cos im white.....and i live in a mostly black neighbourhood.....and yer...most of the white guys get jacked....ive heard a lot of black guys say white bastards an stuff....but a white guy wouldnt dare say black bastard.....so i do no wut its like....

D-ICED 09-12-04 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Calamity
welll first off,i thought he said something else.. and racism is far from over.. your not living in reality lol.. racism is EVERYWHERE.. and i aint just talking about white to black or black to white.. u got hispanics, you got jews, u got em all... and its not jsut a defence mechanism.. you really cant see it through our eyes.. i know you think you can, but you cant.... i mean.. untill u know what it feels liek to walkinto a liquor store 5/10 times and be constantly stared at, due to the fact, and only the fact that your skin is dark brown or crispy butter pecan brown lol.. and u talk and walk and dress a certain way, you will never understand what it is to be born that way with out a choice.... now i aint crying over shit,c ause i live in a white neightborhood with nice big lawns and basketball hoops, and pools.. (hot white gurls :thumbup: )... but i have also seen the other side of thangs.. so na racism is still here.. and its never gonna be gone.. its jsut part of life..

^you dont think whites in the hoods dont feel the same how about a white man on a all black basketball team?

La Cosa Nostra 09-12-04 01:04 AM

Man.. I live in aus and I dont look bitch, and when me and about 5 guys walk into a bottle shop, we get stared at..

So I know exactly what ya talkin bout. But the fact is, thats not racism, thats people going off steriotypes.

And this is what im saying, people are so quick to call out racism simply because thats what their braught up to do.

Thats what im saying by my last post.

Immense 09-12-04 01:05 AM

thnk u caliph...werd

Ca'lam 09-12-04 01:08 AM

omg .. ok look... im am, fuckign POSITIVE white people say racist shit about black people.. they do in fron of me cause they no i dont give a shit... they say "i like black people liek you, but not niggers who dress all ganster and shit.. im like oh ok.. lets go fuck with kacie...".. i ahte to brake it to you.. but neither one of you are black... ok.. so u dont know shit about being black.. i didnt wanan be mean, but you insist on saying u know shit about something your not.. you will never know what it is to BE black.. but im done with the shit.. i jsut wanted to put my 2 cents in, but i gave a dollar.. there racism on both sides.... and who ever spole for the whitepeople as a race: "your dumb lol" period.. i cant believe u actgually said what a white man willa nd wont do.... tahts jsut fucking ignorant.. peope unpredictble.. i feel bad for your nieveness...

Ca'lam 09-12-04 01:10 AM

youd ont knwo what it is they are thing poet.. it could be anything sterotype or racism.. but last tiem i checked, percentages say its racism.. sterotypes are racism to a certain degree.. its discrimination.. which boils down to racism in that case.. but yea.. we have diff opnions, agree to disagree :)..

Immense 09-12-04 01:12 AM

wot a dick.......u think cos u black tht u the only one tht got things tuff....hahaha....wot a dick.......u the fuckin ignorant one for sayin tht.........well this is just from my view...but when i was at skool....last year....believe me...nt one black kid got picked on...cos they was all like actin tuff an shit....ya know how it be....but loadsa white guys got picked on...i didnt cos i stuck up 4 maself and i hung around wit blacks....so shits different in different places........FUCK U

50Cal. 09-12-04 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Calamity
omg .. ok look... im am, fuckign POSITIVE white people say racist shit about black people.. they do in fron of me cause they no i dont give a shit... they say "i like black people liek you, but not niggers who dress all ganster and shit.. im like oh ok.. lets go fuck with kacie...".. i ahte to brake it to you.. but neither one of you are black... ok.. so u dont know shit about being black.. i didnt wanan be mean, but you insist on saying u know shit about something your not.. you will never know what it is to BE black.. but im done with the shit.. i jsut wanted to put my 2 cents in, but i gave a dollar.. there racism on both sides.... and who ever spole for the whitepeople as a race: "your dumb lol" period.. i cant believe u actgually said what a white man willa nd wont do.... tahts jsut fucking ignorant.. peope unpredictble.. i feel bad for your nieveness...

^ive never said anything like that ever everyone is not racist that is a racists excuse to justify his actions by saying everyone else does it no they dont

Ca'lam 09-12-04 01:14 AM

i think ur confused... if u are in the LEAST bit intelligent re-read everything i posted in this thread, then stfu walk away and let my words marinate.. and once you have an apifany something liek this will creep into your mnd: i said blask jews and mexicans and OTHER races are just as harrased and subdued to racism..including white people... so stfu and stop talking.. you have been sonned like high noon... -1

KOOL COL-B 09-12-04 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Calamity
wut up spic


nuthin much homey, haha

newyaz, white people iz just az good at rappin az black people. so do u think that Lil John haz betta lyrics than Eminem just cuz he black? hmmmmmm? fuck racism, werd

Immense 09-12-04 01:15 AM

wot a bitch...........translate tht please...............dumb fuck

Ca'lam 09-12-04 01:17 AM

rofl..why u pick lil john.. try common... commons lyrics would fuckign make eminem look retarded.. as wella s rakims, and mos def... eminem is only shining now, cause hes mainstream.. i know underground WHITE rapper that make lunch of eminem.. but they just dont appreal to the mainstream person..

Ca'lam 09-12-04 01:18 AM

trojan..... im sorry your to stupid to comprehend my words... have a fellow rapversian help you out... you just have biased thoughts about me cause you read on part of my paragraph, and formed opninions about me.. read it in its ENTIRTY, or you will just be setting your self up for embarassment in sayign im racist and biased... your actually quite un-intelligent.

Ca'lam 09-12-04 01:20 AM

ok im out...big ups to you guys :)... all races all places < thas word

La Cosa Nostra 09-12-04 01:21 AM

Omfg.. Yes ok, your so holy and different because your black..

Is that what you want us to say? You talk all this noise about how its so different being black dude, what seriously is the big difference.

1. Cops are constantly looking for a reason to arrest me.
2. I get stared at in shops because they think im gonna rob the place.
3. I prolly live in a more violent community then you do.
4. Every one of my friends r obsessed with hip hop.

Do you want me to go on man?

You talk like your so different to white people.. Wake up man, the only thing that makes you different is because you think you are..

Its all in ya head.. And when everyone starts to realise that, racism will end.

Thats my 2 cents.

Immense 09-12-04 01:22 AM

haha....i read it all...and i didnt agree...am jus sayin wot i see...in my opinion....and i respect urs...even if i didnt agree.........but fuck this....am nt postin in this thread again......its bull shit........i dont think no thread should be made as.......WHITE RAPPERS.......or BLACK RAPPERS READ........but u gotta admit the first post was bullshit......i didnt even respect tht post...........nuff said

Immense 09-12-04 01:23 AM

oooooooooooh......i at to post again..........just to say WERD to poet............out

KOOL COL-B 09-12-04 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Calamity
rofl..why u pick lil john.. try common... commons lyrics would fuckign make eminem look retarded.. as wella s rakims, and mos def... eminem is only shining now, cause hes mainstream.. i know underground WHITE rapper that make lunch of eminem.. but they just dont appreal to the mainstream person..


haha, i wuz talkin 2 tha guy who made this thread btw, but yeah, ur prolly right. wut white rappers iz it that u no that cood make lunch of Eminem? Vanilla Ice? haha. werd

schema 09-12-04 04:54 AM

remember when bill cosby gave that speech...and everybody hated on him for it...that was some truth...

when he was talkin about you arent gonna get a job as a doctor dressing hooded and talking in slang all the time...

it doesnt seem to me like blacks are opressed as much as they paint themselves into a corner by trying to be so different from white people...like you all know the black kid that everyone hates on because he acts white and hes a sell out or whatever but look at him in 10 years and look at mr.thug in 10 years...whos gonna be better off? unless youre looking to rap or play some kind of ball youre gonna have to eventually wear clothes that fit and at least talk so people that dont listen to rap can understand you or you will go nowhere... it sucks but thats how it is... and it is a choice because you can choose to stay with the thug stuff or you can choose to be successful but when you try to do both you are just closing doors for yourself...

and calam youre right im white so i dont know what its like to be black but i know i dont sit at home and jot in my "ways to keep the black man down" list and i dont think ive ever met a white person that does...

i do see the problem that blacks have with whites that talk in slang and dress hooded and then go home to their three thousand sqare foot houses and ask for more money for the new air force 1's that just came out but that is whites trying to take away a black thing when thats not really who they are...but also there are a lot of black people that talk in slang and dress hooded and then go home to their three thousand sqare foot houses...im not cool in general with people who try to be what theyre not...which is why you wont find me in fubu or whatever...i know who i am and i dress how people like me dress...but you cant say we cant rap...rap doesnt just belong to black people its for whoever can get into it...you dont see people on punkverse making threads about how black people should be banned from punk rock...

damn I wrote a book...

*next post*
"schema what you just said was really racist"

nope it definitely wasnt read it again...

Immense 09-12-04 04:59 AM

hmmmmm........can i get tht in hard back......lol......jus playin cuz.....yer werd to tht.....explained well...pz

La Cosa Nostra 09-12-04 05:02 AM

That was pretty much what I have been saying.. But some Eazy E obsessed kid pushed the thread to the next page so no1 saw it.

............................

..ADLIB.. 09-12-04 08:46 AM

fuck this white on black beef shit............those who get caught up in it to me are the only ones suffering when will we elevate above all this racist bullshit......the ones who keep on spewing about it all are the ones who keep this bullshit 'alive' we live in a multi- cultural society these days........i just find it hard to get a handle on the way some ppl are thinking.

Ca'lam 09-12-04 09:10 AM

i agree fake people are retarded.. i dont agree that u guys cant rap.. i never seaid that.. but i live in Missouri... Saint Louis.. This state is quite racist... there are quite a few racist states left in the usa with racism enuff for the rest of the usa... so if live in fuckin la, florida, and nyc, obviously you wont see as much as i do, or other people do... so visit more states before u say there isnt in america...


thats what im saying... it IS different being black.. u have no idea.. u have been sheltered ur entire life to think racism is OUR heads... its not.. and i aint just talking about black people.. im talking about all races dude... sometimes even white people are subdued to racism.... i have many white friends who have heard what i had to say, and agreed, many.. its not in my head at all...a nd how would you know what its like living in FUCKED up america ?.. it dont count to have "visited"... i aint saying you dont know about racism, im sayign u dont know about being black and being in america...and i said nothign about being holy cause im black.. u are again twisting the meaning of my words.. i never agreed to what the first guy posted... infact hes a dumbass.. but im just telling you how it is.. im less affected by racism than most of my black friends.. and its still here... but dont ever tell me its in my head, when u dont even live here.. =/... thats liek saying "Russians dont speak russian in russia... but i live in the u.s so im jsut goign on what i heard"

no beef or anything, i just despise jumping the gun, and people who assume and formulate opinions on what they think, heard or was told, instead of experiene.

but like is aid earlier.. i dont give a shit lol.. imjust letting you know, tghere is another side of this argument.. and im jsut showing you how the other side feels.. but im chillen.... i just dont believe everything is handy dandy... but ima stop posting in here... cause it's heating up since i left lol... *throws iice pack on it*.. lets go make music and text :)

La Cosa Nostra 09-12-04 09:14 AM

Oh yes... Ive been sheltered all my life... :laugh:

Man, support your argument, what is the difference of being black and being white.. So far you have told me its different, but not given any real evidence.

And again, I know theres no beef, were jus havin a discussion..

Any new knowledge is good knowledge, Cuz im not out to just say "your wrong".. I want you to change my mind.

Immense 09-12-04 09:16 AM

aight...i understand now anyway.....i know it might be tuff for most blacks in america......but wot i was sayin is other people and races in different countrys get it tuff aswell...........but uve jus admited tht in ur last thread........so yer..am on ya level nah......i think most is right tho......i mean who cares.....we shouldnt even beef wit each other over this......hiphop should stick together.....i mean beef is cool...its healthy beef when its kept to the lyrics...but we shouldnt be beefin bout dumb things....i gt respect for ya....and everyone else....i aint gettin involed in these dumb threads no more............pz

Ca'lam 09-12-04 09:24 AM

ok... how is it not different.. we've all been born with a block on our sholdur to prove that we are jsut as good as any other race.. we were not to long ago said to be fuckign 3/5 human... we considered fuckign aliens.. <-- if that aint being fuckign different what is ?.. cause no offence, i've seen a teacher give detention to a black kid when he acidently hurt himself and said shit... then the next day, my white friend (we close friends) said fuck you to a student cause they called him gay (hes bisexual), and the teacher took em both out of the rook for a while, he came inside and said he didnt get any detention or anything... thats just small shit right there ^... theres other things.. ima jsut have to think in depth.. another friends dad is a cop.. and he is crooked... he pull over black males that he thinks are up to something, and if they have drugs on em (a lil weed is quite common :thumbup: ), they take it and then give ema ticket for like speeding or something.... theres alot of lil annyoing not big shit that happenes.. butblacks arent the only race.. its different beign mexican.. its different being hatian

Ca'lam 09-12-04 09:26 AM

sometimes its different being mixed with half blakc and half white.. cause i know alot of white peoople and ALOT of black people who despise the mixing of race... i tell em fuck off.. i lub my mexican white latino OMG -_-.. black girls is hot to tho... :)

Immense 09-12-04 09:30 AM

nah nah......latino an asian gurls.........damn them asians is fine....they quite a few half caste gurls round ma area too...ya know half black..half white...they kinda fine.....damn...we blessed yall....

La Cosa Nostra 09-12-04 09:37 AM

Ok for starters, police are all racist fucks.... Youll get that anywhere you go..

But with the school story.. Why do you automatically pin that as a race thing. That is what Ive been saying all along. You think you are different because you are raised to think a cirtain way.. You are taught by your parents who actually lived in some rough times to believe that any small difference in the way you are treated by people must automatically be called racism..

That is what has to stop in my opinion.. But please man, I dont think your any different to the next guy..

The only difference that is real.. Has nothing to do with racism.. Its cultural differences. And that will always be the same.. But it doesent seem like your talking about that from reading your arguments..

Ca'lam 09-12-04 09:41 AM

true ^.. but is a direct effect from the racism 40 years ago... its not our fault that some people decided to beracist, and instill the thought of racism in our heads.. if who ever was racist back then hadnt done it, we wouldnt be like this... so its far from our fault..... and the guy who said shit, he also lives out here with me... he dont have arecord of violence obsenities or anything bad... it was racist.. i can admit when i confuse racism with favoritism or even sterotyping... but that time it was racism... but you see where im comming from ?.. its not our generations fault that we are on guard for racism.. our parents went through it, and nothing changes in a matter of one generation.. nothing..


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