Id never say thatr, i got booted outa my hometown from em...took over and now it aint safe for whites in some areas...i wouyld love to line them up against a wall and pull out and AK.

You're not from America. That's the only thing that is revelant to my point.

I'd like to see somebody who is an American argue with me.

All you motherfuckers who don't have this problem. Ireland? Yeah, I doubt they'll be over run by Mexicans soon. Canda? Same thing.

Don't fucking tell me its alright and that I'm being a dumbass when you're not facing the problem every fucking day. Don't fucking talk to me if you can't relate to this shit.

ok if a immagrint comes to this country im all for it he or she will pay taxes and should have to work no welfare as for illegally it is real simple.if you have someone move in with you and yall working toghther bills will get paied and shit will run smooth but how bout if someone breaks into your house and just makes a bed in your room?then what?the guy who breaks in is a illegal immigrant and he should be shot period.

Agreed. Immigrants who are legal are fine. I could give a shit less about them.

But the people who exploit this country are fucking pissing me off.

Are they there legally or illegally? Is your country paying millions for the asians to learn how to speak english? Are the majority of your jails filled with illegal asians? Do the asians pay taxes or just take the free ride?

I need to know the answers to those questions before I say anything else.

No son your Tax money goes to killing innocent people over in Iraq..

How was that nicely put?

I could totally own that post, but my point in this thread is getting rid of illegal immigrants. But, I can pretty much put this debate down as a victory if the best thing you have to say back is saying that we are killing people in Iraq. That has no revelance to the point I'm making right now.

^^
i highly doubt that the reason they are coming into the states illeagaly is because they cant "pay" for a passport...

but anyways...
we arent arguing about iraq or whats going on over there, so stop trying to bring that into this thread...

and i have a problem with 5mil going to them every year
thats 5mil that could be used to do better things like improve the education system in general, not to teach kids how to speak english so that they can live here...
keep in mind we're paying this 5mil to people who dont even deserve it, we're basically rewarding them for illeagaly entering our country...
and also keep in mind that its only 5mil from arizona...theres a hell of a lot more pouring in from other states as well...

FUCK THE SPURS

and i rather have mexicans then asians tho.. i think... hmm..

Mexicans, get rather lazy.. never mind i rather have asians.. they work and work hard..

[thumbs up to asians]

Efecx, I don't know if you read correctly. That 5 mil is in Arizona alone. Our mayor just signed a deal to send 80 mil total to "english-learning" students.

And what the fuck at you guys bringing the war into this? My views on the war are clearly different then yours, but that has no revelance to illegal immigrants in the United States.

You guys are just getting merked all over this thread, so just stop posting. Lmao @ a dude from Ireland and a dude from Canada trying to argue with me that the immigration issue in the UNITED STATES isn't getting out of control. Just shut the fuck up. You guys don't know what you're talking about.

lol they havent seen a home of like 30 mexicans before.. lol.. where did the come from idk.. only about 2 are legal and there are like alot in the house..

he is saying the iraqi's arent immigrating cuz the us is fightin iraq too but they are mostly on the immigration tip

i have been out of the country
ive actually spent a signifigant amount of time in mexico itself...
and i know that there may not be very many things there that they can do to make their living conditions better, but the fact of the matter is is that there are things they can do...
just coming into the states really does not help anybody
rarely, RARELY do you see any immigrant actually succeed here in the states...
most of em will end up working for rich people doing chores and such, or working at resteraunts cooking/serving meals, which all pay minimum wage, or somewhere near...
my point is that coming into the US illeagally really does not help anyone, and it especially doesnt help them...

and our attempt to help them should not be necessary considering they shouldnt be here in the first place...
and the 5mil we use on them could go to things that help our economy, it could go to plenty of things...

^^lol NO ONE CARES ABOUT IRAQIS they arent all immigrating..

Alright, let my try to explain to you..

My views on the war are different then yours. I think we SHOULD be in Iraq. Therefore, I don't see that as a waste of money. You obviously do. But, THAT ISN'T THE POINT OF THIS THREAD. Tell me how putting money into a war is a waste of money? That all goes back to what your opinions on the war are. That has nothing to do with this thread.

And, it's not that the United States is only spending 5 million. In Arizona alone there is a deal for 80 million, 5 million for THIS year. Thats over $1,000 for ONE student to learn how to speak English. That is waste of fucking money.

And what the fuck @ not having money to get a passport? So don't come across. It's really not that hard to understand. What seperates being poor in Mexico from being poor in the United States? NOTHING. You're still poor.

I'm going to go quote that excerpt from the article I posted a while back, that says some good shit that is actually revelant to this point.

But, my other point is you shouldn't even be speaking your mind on this topic. It has nothing to do with you or your gay ass country. It has to do with where I'm living. Where I see all the bullshit that goes on because these leaching motherfuckers can't live on their own. You don't see that shit. So just shut the fuck up. You shouldn't be voicing your opinion on something like this.

So fuck you dude. You ain't winning shit. You just ignore my questions when you try to relate the asian situation there to the mexican one here. You keep bringing shit that is irrevelant to the tables, when that is just a matter of opinion. You keep telling us we should deal with it and give them money, when that you're aren't paying for any of it. It's a lot easier to say, "give them 80 mil, thats fine" when it's not going to be coming out of your pockets.

Just shut the fuck up already.

^^ seriously you need to read.. ur the only one talkin about that... no1 cares..

we are talkin about immigration.. shut up about the war.. lol

That is the excerpt I was talking about.

weerd to mimesis...
efecx you really gotta see this shit first hand, let alone be in the same country before you can talk...

and mim you republican?

What's the difference? If you don't have money to eat, you don't have money to eat. If you don't have a house, you don't have a house.

If you don't have money, you don't have money.. regardless of whether it's pesos or dollars.

It is not the United States problem that Mexico is in a plight of poverty. The people there should try to start a revolution if they're so damn sad about the situation over there. But no, instead of trying to fix the problem, they create them by coming into the United States and demanding that we pay money for them to learn english, but also make us learn spanish because the adults have no way of learning english. When the asians in Ireland start "forcing" you to learn the language from whatever Asian country there from you can start talking to me. Until that time, don't tell me to give them money.

My family is from Germany.

Second, how is that white rich? Tell me.

I'm not denying anybody a half decent life. If they want to come across legally and pay taxes, fine. Good luck with your life. But don't come across the border and have US PAY FOR THEM, and not pay a penny back to the government. Fuck that.

I could give a shit less if Phoenix is more "white" as long as the people who are here are here legally.

Oh yeah. Yourself?

yep same.........

Lmao. I made a typo. I edited it. Go read it now.

I'll respond to the rest of your post now.

Bud your 16.. since when do 16 year olds know anything about anything. I can guarantee i know alot more about your own country then you might think you do.

What are you talking about? Mexico should deal with their population, correct. I didn't say anything about Iraqi "problems." Nor did I say that their problems are America's problem. Quit getting off subject.



I'm already sitting down. And I'm not hypocritical. I had one typo. Forget about it.



I've never given anything to poor people. This is another topic of discussion, but I will never help poor people who are begging on the street. Don't make assumptions. I know a lot of people who feel the way I do on this topic.



Lmao. That is what I'm saying. I've never helped a poor person just begging, without working at all. Sure, there are little ins and outs, but for the most part.. if you're poor, you're poor. It's really not that hard of an idea to grasp.



It's a little different between Mexico and America to America and Africa. Africa is just fucked. There is no technology, no nothing there. Those people are so far behind everywhere else, it's not even funny.

But, I do think we should have gone to Iraq, and I do think we should go to Iran. But when we go to Iran I think we should just kill everybody; men, women, and children until there country gives up so ignorant asses like you won't be talking about American soldiers dying.

But no, I'm not hypocritical. I never said all countries problems should be handled within their own government. I said MEXICO'S PROBLEMS SHOULD. You're making assumptions that aren't correct.

Lmao @ that whole post being about how I'm "hypocritical" because I made one typo in all of the posts I've put up. That's the shit that you're clinging on to? You got nothing in this arguement kid.