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Sixth Sense 08-03-05 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ~B~
actually the rockets bring up a supply of pure oxygen with them to direct the ship, and ignite the rockets that propel them off any surface which they may be on.

also, the moon is not a luminous object, it doesnt give off any light whatsoever, it simply reflects the suns.

werd thats what it does reflect aint thjat cool......lol

Tha Q. 08-03-05 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Doomsday
1: Nope. Try agian. The moon reflects the sun's light so if anything it'd be an ambient light IF THAT while one were actually one it and it'd be coming form the surface itself. Not from a direct and focused secondary point. That dosent explain the crosshair phenominon at all seeing that the crosshair is BEHIND another image. All the light in the world wouldn't do that. Especially seeing that the object that broke the continuity isn't luminiscent in any way shape or form.


A: False again. First up, the craft landing on the moon would apply force against the craft AND the moon's surface. Not magically defy physics and only apply it to the craft. Secondly, thrusters (aka afterburners) ONLY work off air. Ever see a flame in space? Don't you need air (and fuel and spark) to have fire??? C'mon man, this is thirdgrade stuff. "Thrusters" as you keep callin it only works off the basic principals of air. And they're not called "thusters" they're called Afterburners. They're defined as this:

af·ter·burn·er Audio pronunciation of "afterburner" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (ftr-bûrnr)
n.

1. A device for augmenting the thrust of a jet engine by burning additional fuel with the uncombined oxygen in the exhaust gases.


Wait.....did that just say oxygen??? damn....


You keep aying "we went to the moon" but haven't given a credible explaination yet. Sounds liek you dont' even know the fundamentals of a friggin fire.




I'm not going to argue simple science with someone who likes to disagree for the sake of disagreeing...

There is virtually NO AIR RESISTANCE in space...so thrusters work much easier in space than on earth...There are molecules in space...but that's negligible for what we're talking about...

and Cross haird behind an image COULD be created through bleeding intense light...research it duke.


I'm saying that you could have a rocket take off on the moon and not create this huge crater or dust plume...Quite possible again due to the fact--AGAIN--that a dust plume is created by the air in between the ship and the ground, which on the moon doesn't exist.

You're argument that we didn't go to the moon stems on a few photos that exibit unusual light representations?

that's ridiculous...cuz, weren't u the same person who said GHOSTS can't exist because of of natural phenomenon...

now...which is more logical? that we went to the moon and there were visual abnormalities due to various light sources, or that there is an international Hoax to make JFK look like a fuckin hero?


get da fuck outta here

Tha Q. 08-03-05 11:13 AM

AND I DIDN'T SAY THE MOON GAVE OFF LIGHT

I said it provided the 2nd source of light...we know that it's due to REFLECTION

and another reason U don't see Stars in the background is for that various reason...Compared to bright objects on the moon, they MAY NOT show up on the film.


c'mon guys...we WENT to the mooon...we have SAMPLES...PHOTOS...all U Conspiracy theorists have are counter-attacks due to bad scientific theories

and YES>..thrusters provide their own FUEL for combustion...u don't need an appreciable amount of AIR in SPACE for a rocket to move...cuz THERE ISN"T ANY.\


IN SPACE, THRUSTERS DON'T PUSH OFF SURROUNDING AIR, IT PUSHED OFF THE GAS FROM THE ACTUAL THRUSTER AND THE SHIP

L. Veracity 08-03-05 11:19 AM

interesting thread but I'm not gonna read Doomsday and ThaQ go back and forth, my brain power isn't that developed enough in science to knowledgably compete with them...

shit, you guys should have a damn TV show ROFL...

Tha Q. 08-03-05 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
interesting thread but I'm not gonna read Doomsday and ThaQ go back and forth, my brain power isn't that developed enough in science to knowledgably compete with them...

shit, you guys should have a damn TV show ROFL...



Doomsday doesn't have that much brain power either
**he doesn't know what da fuck he's talkin about
his problem is that he's a know-it-all and refuses to acknowledge when someone has more understanding of a particular subject than he does



he gets style points...it's all smoke n mirrors

No substance

NUFF SAID.


don't forget my Breakdown

DOOMS ARGUMENTS:

90 %..Tongue-n-cheek sarcasm
5 %...rhetoric
5 & BUll shit

Tha Q. 08-03-05 11:26 AM

OH...and I'm done with this discussion because when someone refuses to listen to reason for the sake of being "right", then they are HOPELESS


yea...I'm referring to DOOMSDAY.



Nuff said.

∆ P E X X 08-03-05 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
I'm not going to argue simple science with someone who likes to disagree for the sake of disagreeing...

There is virtually NO AIR RESISTANCE in space...so thrusters work much easier in space than on earth...There are molecules in space...but that's negligible for what we're talking about...

and Cross haird behind an image COULD be created through bleeding intense light...research it duke.


I'm saying that you could have a rocket take off on the moon and not create this huge crater or dust plume...Quite possible again due to the fact--AGAIN--that a dust plume is created by the air in between the ship and the ground, which on the moon doesn't exist.

You're argument that we didn't go to the moon stems on a few photos that exibit unusual light representations?

that's ridiculous...cuz, weren't u the same person who said GHOSTS can't exist because of of natural phenomenon...

now...which is more logical? that we went to the moon and there were visual abnormalities due to various light sources, or that there is an international Hoax to make JFK look like a fuckin hero?


get da fuck outta here



I'm not even gonna argue your theory on afterburners since physics and Lockheed Martin mastered and owned you with that decades before you were even born. Go google for it. And theres no way in hell an object with 3000+lbs of thrust is not going to disturb the surface of a planet that's covered in dust.

As for this "moon landing", I'm looking at it from a point of reality. How'd the astronauts suvive the radiation? How the hell did their suits sustain against 250ºF+ heat (I dare you to say "air conditioners" again cuz you'll get pee'd on with your own argument)? How are these conflicting light sources adressed? Where's the stars? There's too many things suspect about something that should be so routine.

And yeah, I'm the same guy who said ghosts don't exsit. The common denominator in both these discussions is FACTS which in both cases they're are none. Just speculation and your wild-ass guesses and assumptions.

And who said jack shit about JFK? Why are you changing the subject?

Bangalore 08-03-05 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Doomsday
WHAT?! YOU don't understand how newtons third law of motion works son!! A force has to act on 2 surfaces in order for this to even be factual. It could be the surface of the inner blast shield of an afterburner and a planet (with the force being propusltion), or it could be a hand pushing against a wall. Weather there is no air or not (which ther ALWAYS is), there is still another force being acted upon. I suggest you read up on how JATO works, because with out that basic fundamental knowledge this discussion is going nowhere.

PS, afterburners are moving AIR in order for the ship it self to move, so to say there's no air functioning in space is rediculous. There may not be and WIND, but there is always air.






You still didn't adres the conflicting light sources.

And in this qote you say "who knows what technology WILL be created BY THEN to counter that. That's intersting seeing that you still don't now how it was countered for anyone to "go to the moon" as you say.



lol you do know Q is a science major right? plus i wouldn't trust someone that can't use the word "whether" in the right context....that is all now back to my RV Free Diet

Tha Q. 08-03-05 11:36 AM

^^LOL...GAME...SET..MATCH


BIOTCH


haha

∆ P E X X 08-03-05 11:38 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Doomsday doesn't have that much brain power either
**he doesn't know what da fuck he's talkin about
his problem is that he's a know-it-all and refuses to acknowledge when someone has more understanding of a particular subject than he does



he gets style points...it's all smoke n mirrors

No substance

NUFF SAID.


don't forget my Breakdown

DOOMS ARGUMENTS:

90 %..Tongue-n-cheek sarcasm
5 %...rhetoric
5 & BUll shit



Fuck you smoking? I have facts to back up every single thing I've said where you've shown not a single one. You're using jargon that has no meaning at all like it's an actual point of argument, lol. That may work on someone who dosen't know jack shit son, but not on Dooms. Try agian. You jsut sound straight-up rediculous as hell man and there's a reason why no one in this thread agrees with jack shit you've said. Because it simply isn't true.

∆ P E X X 08-03-05 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Turban.
lol you do know Q is a science major right? plus i wouldn't trust someone that can't use the word "whether" in the right context....that is all now back to my RV Free Diet



no, you know Q SAID he's a science major right? You know I had to get certified in physics THEN thermal dynamics THEN fluid dynamics before I could design a single part for TRG? You citing someone elses hearsay dosent' validate a single thing they said. Put the crack down.

L. Veracity 08-03-05 12:03 PM

and a TRG would beeeeee what exactly?...

wel not eXactly but ya know...in plain English...

TeamOne 08-03-05 12:39 PM

wow......... i bet tha Q could start a thread sayin that Ghosts DONT exist, and Dooms would go in there to argue with him

TeamOne 08-03-05 12:52 PM

im just sayin random bullshit, cuz ill be honest, i dont study much space shit........ so someone tell me if any of this is possible

1. Since the moon is the second biggest lightsource to US next to the sun, is it plausible to think that on the moon the earth would reflect light onto it?? or maybe another planet/star/moon??

2. Flash Cameras, lol..... (not to explain shadows, but cuz in some of those pictures he's like "there's light here, but no light here")

3. We have space stations and satelites out in space........ so shouldnt that mean that its VERY possible that the spaceship wasnt burned/chipped to pieces or whatever else u think that shit would destroy the aircraft?

4. If their spacesuits were made correctly, they wouldnt feel the huge heat of the moon........ that was always basic knowledge in my book....... like wen ur in a house and ur blowin the air conditionin with the door open, u aint gonna get any cooler....... but door closed and it all works out (that is understanding everything else in the room is not seeping or allowing air to leave or come in..... so pretend it is a house with no other openings like windows) .... the only question if u believe that is if theyre suits could sustain the heat from seepin? in

5. white colors always make u feel cooler, lmao werd

6. i forgot wat other questions i was gonna ask....... but these are only questions i was askin for u two to clear up cuz that was sum of the stuff i was wonderin while u two were goin at it

4.

B-MAC 08-03-05 01:07 PM

If this kid really thinks going to the moon was a huge consipiracy, He is stupider then i thought..

B-MAC 08-03-05 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Doomsday
I'm not even gonna argue your theory on afterburners since physics and Lockheed Martin mastered and owned you with that decades before you were even born. Go google for it. And theres no way in hell an object with 3000+lbs of thrust is not going to disturb the surface of a planet that's covered in dust.

As for this "moon landing", I'm looking at it from a point of reality. How'd the astronauts suvive the radiation? How the hell did their suits sustain against 250ºF+ heat (I dare you to say "air conditioners" again cuz you'll get pee'd on with your own argument)? How are these conflicting light sources adressed? Where's the stars? There's too many things suspect about something that should be so routine.

And yeah, I'm the same guy who said ghosts don't exsit. The common denominator in both these discussions is FACTS which in both cases they're are none. Just speculation and your wild-ass guesses and assumptions.

And who said jack shit about JFK? Why are you changing the subject?



How did they Survive the Radiation, Ok.. Then How do they Survive the Radiation when they do space walks at the space Station.. Theres all sorts of Radiation in space, Wanna know how they Survived the Radiation with the Space suits they wear.

Oh Let me guess, we dont even Go to space, its all made up.. The space station is just hanging in a hanger somwhere, with Black wallpaper surronding it, and when the Space ship takes off its just a Optical Illusion..

∆ P E X X 08-03-05 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by L. Veracity
and a TRG would beeeeee what exactly?...

wel not eXactly but ya know...in plain English...



The Racers Group.

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Originally Posted by FuxJustAWord
wow......... i bet tha Q could start a thread sayin that Ghosts DONT exist, and Dooms would go in there to argue with him



why would I argue something that I agree with? lol, just drop your bitch-ass track and stfu, lol.

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Originally Posted by FuxJustAWord
im just sayin random bullshit, cuz ill be honest, i dont study much space shit........ so someone tell me if any of this is possible

1. Since the moon is the second biggest lightsource to US next to the sun, is it plausible to think that on the moon the earth would reflect light onto it?? or maybe another planet/star/moon??

2. Flash Cameras, lol..... (not to explain shadows, but cuz in some of those pictures he's like "there's light here, but no light here")

3. We have space stations and satelites out in space........ so shouldnt that mean that its VERY possible that the spaceship wasnt burned/chipped to pieces or whatever else u think that shit would destroy the aircraft?

4. If their spacesuits were made correctly, they wouldnt feel the huge heat of the moon........ that was always basic knowledge in my book....... like wen ur in a house and ur blowin the air conditionin with the door open, u aint gonna get any cooler....... but door closed and it all works out (that is understanding everything else in the room is not seeping or allowing air to leave or come in..... so pretend it is a house with no other openings like windows) .... the only question if u believe that is if theyre suits could sustain the heat from seepin? in

5. white colors always make u feel cooler, lmao werd

6. i forgot wat other questions i was gonna ask....... but these are only questions i was askin for u two to clear up cuz that was sum of the stuff i was wonderin while u two were goin at it

4.


1: I don't understand what you're asking

2: There's no evidence of that seeing that everything was videotaped in what would have bene direct light from the sun.

3: Those satelights arent manned. Some dents and dings on a satelite aren't nearly as dramatic as some dents and punctures on a space ship. Also, those satelites that you hear about are barely outside's the earths atmosphere

4: Yeah biut this is radiant heat we're talkign about. Same way you'll feel a fire on the other side of a door without contacting the fire directly.

5: right, that applies for light not no 200+ degrees worth of radiant heat.

TeamOne 08-03-05 01:50 PM

number 5 was a joke btw, im so glad u caught on....... well u guys are talkin about how there are two shadows and shit like that..... and for example, on Earth, wen there is a full moon, it is very evident that it gives off light and shadows, especially over water.....

and for #4, thats exactly wat i was wonderin, cuz i know the spacesuits are not just cloth and shit, so im wonderin if the suits can protect against the radiant heat..... i remember seein the material they made space suits out of, and it looked like it consisted of many metals and shit like lead and what not.......

ohhh and for #3, theres also space stations and other spacecrafts that have taken off also besides the ones that went to the moon.......

meh, jw tho

PS.... and wat i meant Doomsday by the ghost thing is that ur so into arguin with Tha Q that even if he sed sumthin u agreed with ud STILL argue with him, and all of a sudden say Ghosts do exist or sum shit

∆ P E X X 08-03-05 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by FuxJustAWord
number 5 was a joke btw, im so glad u caught on....... well u guys are talkin about how there are two shadows and shit like that..... and for example, on Earth, wen there is a full moon, it is very evident that it gives off light and shadows, especially over water.....

and for #4, thats exactly wat i was wonderin, cuz i know the spacesuits are not just cloth and shit, so im wonderin if the suits can protect against the radiant heat..... i remember seein the material they made space suits out of, and it looked like it consisted of many metals and shit like lead and what not.......

ohhh and for #3, theres also space stations and other spacecrafts that have taken off also besides the ones that went to the moon.......

meh, jw tho

PS.... and wat i meant Doomsday by the ghost thing is that ur so into arguin with Tha Q that even if he sed sumthin u agreed with ud STILL argue with him, and all of a sudden say Ghosts do exist or sum shit



Nah, that's retarded. I wouldn't debate something I agree with. PS, abotu th radiation thing, you'd need about 4-feet of lead to resist the amount of radiation that a human being would encounter while exiting the earth's atmosphere. Them suits nor that ship dosen't have anywhere near that.


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