Lmao. True shit.

according to this,this been goin on a while now.....And out of all the years.....don't you think at least one rapper or ghostwriter would tell the truth about how he got signed and this bullshit?
OR......they all good at keepin secrets somehow :rolleyes:

A ghostwriter NEVER gets full credits for a song, it'll always say the performers name and then the ghosts name. It'sgotta say the ghosts name or else the ghost can't get paid since accounting woudl have no PUBLIC record that anyone else wrote the track (assuming they get paid on the books).

I was gonna break this down and the conenction, but look at it like this: Any solo track you see of an emcee and more than one name appears in the credits, it was either A: ghosted or B: co-written. At least half of Mic Club is written by two dudes, s. Priceman and B Hedvat. About another 45% are written by D.Zangger. Tracks dude has on Mic Club that he wrote alone?

















Zero.

Last album bis wrote at least 50% of by himself was C: True Hollywood Stories.

On 2nd thought...don't believe this ya'll.....all bullshit......there are many stories like this buried on the net...

I don't believe it anymore....

Fact stil lremains that he didn't "quit".

DIdn't he write Rip the Jacker himself?He said in endless interviews that he wrote it on his stained kitchen table or sumtin like dat.

And every single rapper has somebody co-writting for them.How else they gon put out an album every yr like that.And the co-writter could be someone who just gave feedback or something.Ya neva know.Doesn't mean they made 50% of the song just cause they got they name next to the artist.

This shit is bogus....i don't believe this article.

yeah. why wouldn't I?




how you know he ain't say his name? I'm sure you could get in touch with the ddue who made the original post which is what I asked about earlier.



lol, hell no.



Sir, yes Sir!! :thinks about what he's gonna buy with the 100,000 I mentioned in another post:



it is. Name one singer you know in ANY industry of thta dosent' have "writers" and hell, The biggest pop star of our generation - Brittany Spears is wELL KNOWN for doctored vocals. Her image is built by "image consultants" and her convos and interviews are molded by PR reps.

Why you think rap is any different?




what the hell you talking about? lol LOTS of ghosts have come out and started their own careers and none of em get put on. Fat Joe's ghost jsut dropped an album - where's he now? This aint new news. Youre just now hearing about it, lol.

You don't believe it because you don't want to believe it. PS, someone who says "yeah son, you should be like POW right there" don't get co-writers credits since co-writers credits get CHECKS. And liek I said, ghosts get co-writers credits since co-writers credits legally also include the performer who may not have wrote jack shit.



And yeah, bis wrote RTJ. You make it sound liek i said he can't write, lol.

Ooh yeah baby it feels good to be in Australia.
The lable I want to sign to is called Obese Records, its run by underground heads but its got the power to go mainstream in Australia. Instead of being shot down by this information. People should be looking at new attack plans. Make the industry work for you, dont work for them.

I'ma keep doing my thing till 2012........;)

Well now thinking about it...I don't believe this thing anymore and will keep writing.

and i ain't just talking about ghostwriters...i'm talking about this whole cycle bullshit........about this Rapper A,Rapper B,Rapper C.,...etc.
why is it all of us here are now hearing about it.It's big enough to get some publisitity and all.And...you shouldn't fall into this whole conspiracy shit....there have been many stories like this.KInda like how people say Babe Ruth corked his bat,how some world series games were set-up,how Owen hart's death was a planed act by Vince Mchmahon to get back at Bret,and area 51.

The list off conspiracy stories go on and on and on.I don't believe this bullshit.

Just cause it's well-written?Please...if I well-wrote something about seeing aliens or ghosts...would you believe it?

C'mon...don't be so gullible.
If it was true..we woulda heard about it long time ago.Wat?Everyone good at keepin secrets once they get signed?

I ain't talkign no "conspiracies" and any other shit you're talking about. Im talkign abotu this. this info has been pulbic for decdes. It's called "writers credits". Reading is fundamental. and why you iant' heard of it? lol, you niggas are fuckin teenagers who rap on a website man. How many of yall ever spoke to an A/R or a record exec or ANYONE that works for a label that wasnt' run out of a basement and actualyl had you sit down at a table with a contract written. This shit is VERY real man. You jsut go no life experience or experience in the music biz AT ALL so you're all shocked and dissillusioned on the ground in th fetal position with your hands over your ears, lol.

OK....but now I'm thinking about this thing more.

If it is true...it really ain't that bad....faith evans,mariah carey,and BAbyface got in the industry through ghostwriting.SO i guess...if you look at it this way...it ain't that bad.Just cause you ghostwrite for someone doesn't mean you can't be a star.There may be record labels who may look to sign a ghostwriter.WHoever wrote this had negativity all over it.

I guess this thing could be real....but if it is...it ain't all that bad.


ooh and if this has been here for decades....why you the only one who know bout it here?I ain't the only teen here.

i dont really care to be honest...i dont like it...but its not gonna stop me from rappin lol...its not like ima read this article and be like "damn im never gonna rap again".....its not gonna change for anybody no matter how the industry works...so either quit because this is probably true...or keep going and try to be either rapper A-Z

You make it sound like everyone here checked in on it. Anyone who can read will see that the artist ain't the only one who wrote their tracks. It tells you right on the CD cover.

Yeah.....but it doesn't say how much the co-writer made....did he make 50%...90%...10%....5%?....we don't know and neither do you....

i pretty much knew this anyway?? i thought it was known that mainstream artists had ghostwriters :huh: this doesnt surprise me at all..

Yeah, this shit was posted in 2003 apparently.

I think I'ma take it off sticky...

absolutely right, but I do know someone else had a hand in writing it. I know they didn't write it all them selves - which is exactly what this topic is about.

yo....a ghostwriter is someone who doesn't get credit...they stay in the dark.
The person you are talking about is someone called a co-writer...not ghost.

Ghostwriters are not known by anyone......hence..."ghost"

and this topic states talks about ghostwriters...not co-writer.

The topic says that Rapper B writes songs while gettin NO CREDIT.None.zero.Nada.......you mixing them up now.

whoooooooooo, its a gift to write....thank god

I'm with doomsday i'd like the whole blowing up scence but i'd rather
live a normal life where i can chill with my girl or family without getting run on
and just live it up with the money i'm making which i think has to be a large sum
to keep them silent. and impress people who are like so what do you do for a living
nice house, O, i'm a successful writer, LOOL

As quoted by Shannon Emanuel:



Ghosts aren't always uncredited man. And in entertainment law, for a ghosts paycheck to be on the books for expenses (which means to be accounted for legally for 'cost of doing business' expenses like tolls, meetings, etc) they have to be listed on the track. I'm sure there's some legal back door to it liek a consultation fee or some shit like that but I'd have to read more into the law on it.

Is anyone gonna put down the mic cause of this?....




Ok then stop bitchin....

yea ive seen the CDs before that list other people in the credit of songs, and i figured there was shit like this goin on....... but they way he described was alot worse than i pictured it...... like i saw an Eminem CD (Encore, suckiness) and saw that like half of the tracks had the same dude credited in them along with Em.... so that guy played a big enough role in the song to be mentioned....... there was like only one or two songs i saw on Ems CD i think that only had like him listed.... and i think they were Like Toy Soldiers and Mockingbird (or maybe it was Mosh) i might have the songs alil confused but its been months since i checked the CD cover shit........ but this is exactly why i listen to shit like Infinite and SS LP...... like i sed

I knew there were ghostwriters, but he named some of the dudes i considered legends in that and i would hate to be Rapper B on some occasions cuz ill have the feelin that if i go around sayin "Yea, i wrote One Mic" on the news or even in these forums or sum shit, their might be a casket in my future accordin to him..... or atleast no more money and im prolly gonna be "cock-blocked" from gettin another deal or bein another ghost somewhere else...... kinda like wen a good-really good football player starts wilin out and shit and pissin off the team so much that no other team wants to touch him either even if he is good

and can someone give me an original fuckin link?!?!1

Well, I guess this kinda news will expose the real MC's and the rappers. The reason I write is to help the world and get my lyrics out there, if someone else has to rap them then I guess I can live with that. If you in it for the money, then you will quit if you are Rapper B.

Hasnt this been posted on RV before?

I saw it a while back. Its good shit.

But I guess to big shots music is just business... I wouldnt mind being underground. The pay isnt flashy like mainstream but it would be a lot more fun.

this is mad old but props lol

Yo thanks for puttin this up...yo but how u knw all this happenz?

AHAHA man, I thought your name said "Internal"..
But to answer your qestion, bitch read the posts.

Wow, can't believe that. That's unreal stuff, damn.

lyrically i fink snoop is wack....

^^no he aint man wow.....if u think lyrically hes wack......

Snoop IS whack.....

no he aint man snoop will be a legend hes respected so stfu tweety........