again...ur not looking at the "bigger" picture...

most of these lil shoves and pushes only "hurt" ur ego and pride...they don't really damage u

not retaliating prevents the potential for true damage

u'd be surprised how easily a "soft" answer can turn a situation...

jus like me and OMEN...shit escalated on Monday night...then I decided it was over...

I swallowed my pride and now the beefing has stopped...

try it...

Im not saying diplomacy works 100% of the time...but it does work if u work it.


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But you didn't get hit... If you said, "FUCK U NIGGA, I AINT CUT U OFF", thats different... But if you said, "Oh damn, my bad dawg...I ain't even see u 4 real", and he still comes at you and starts punching you, what do you do?

Exactly.. its not about pride at all. People die from havin their asses kicked an these people are sayin 'Let it happen and tell someone after" thats if you can even talk after.

Im with you on this, that rule is bullshit... Im suprised parents arent doin anything about it.

It aint about bein tough, its about keepin out of harms way. No one enjoys bein beat up unless you're Tyler Durden lol.

Dawg, I know kids that get jumped by 6 people and get their ass sent to the hospital... Can he fight back or not? Thats the question.

yeah, word..

I play hockey, and if uve ever seen hockey fights i mean ur gonna get hit harder in one of those then the average confrontation over somethin stupid and the two dudes in a hockey fight usually got smiles on their faces....

its all about pride usually, not physical damage

Lmao... You dont live in Queens, if you do then you dont step outside your house.

If they beat your ass for a reason, bein expelled wont make them forget about it. I cant believe you even said that shit.

But Durden beat some ass as well... And my dad is gonna take it up with the school board... It is your right as an American to "defend" yourself... And Q, I do understand that it's not your right to retaliate.

I defend myself...with the goal being of stopping him from touching/hitting my person...

once I've successfully done that, then it's over...

I can press charges because he assaulted me...

I never said defending yourself was wrong...

I said in school they are justified because usually, there has been some type of escalation to that point and they can't always determine who truly "started it"...

Plus..fighting has no place in schools...think about it...people who have reputations for violence attract that


it's that simple

Someone's not gonna kill you with fists.And bats n all the other shit....or bassically weapons in general shouldn't have gotten in school grounds for the first place.So you claim defence is for death?Well...fair enough.But be logic..that's different.You brother got fucked up with bats...if he fought back..& told the school that the people had bats..the school would let him pass as they would understand it.But like I said..weapons shouldn't have gotten in the building.And if the skool made a rule like this..most likely they have metal detectors n scannin machines at the entrance to keep shit like that out already.Cuz no one's gonna kill you with their fists.If the person has a weapon..then fight for your life..but fists....meh..walk away.

Usually doesn't mean shit dawg, there is always exceptions.

hahaha funny ass shit...

yea...but ur reputation is ur own doing dawg...

someone who has no history of trouble will get breaks...

if ur known to "retaliate" or have that personality, then claim "self defense", they gonna kick u out if ur involved in a fight, and rightfully so


how are u being productive participating in fights...

and all it takes is making an example out of a few people...and everyone else will fall in line


Defense = acceptable


Fighting in school = intolerable under any circumstance

i agree wit tha q simply becuz its the most logical...

I dont know where yall live but no one just fights with fists nowaday. I aint gonna go to the hospital jus cause a school says its thr right thing to do.

Since when do 40 year old teachers know whats best for TEENS in the world we live in today?

Ill talk my way out of a fight as much as possible but if theres a punch thrown Ima make sure I WALK away from the 'confrontation'.

Been a few people who I've wanted to hit, but you can't get in college with a fight on your record, or if you do you have to have a really good reason.

It's a stupid rule, but I guess in some ways it should stop fights, but what you should do is just block their punches or just immobilize them. It's easier then you think. Most people , if they have a knife or something, just thrust to try and stab you. Just take their arm and throw them down and put it behind their back and get the knife.

If it's a fist fight, just dodge the punches or get them in a full nelson or something.

WHY ARE U FIGHTING is my question?


Do you fight when someone SAYS something to you?

If that's the case, then I can't agree with you, sorry. You jus need to swallow ur pride and get over it.


Or...are you saying you fight when someone physically violates your personal space?

Like I said...if you live in a "bad" neighborhood....then the skools should have metal detectors n scanners at the entrance.So the only way fights would go down on skool grounds is with the use of fists.

Now if you get called to a fight by someone with a weapon....it should be off-skool gorunds...and if you defend yourself..skool can't do shit..as it's off skool grounds.

OH...and please don't blame that shit on "i live in a bad area"...

if u choose to go down that road, that's a choice...

Dr. Ben Carson grew up in da ghetto with all sorts of poverty and violence and didn't take that route...it can be done...

he's a brain surgeon now...

c'mon people...just admit that u have a propensity for violence...

dats all there is to it

u gotta find other ways of dealing with ur anger in public cuz u gonna be locked up or dead sooner or later...there's always someone bigger, badder, and crazier than yo GUNG-HO ass


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But in your opinion defense means protection... But a counter attack=defense as well... And a smarter defense at that... And I havent gotten in 1 fight in high school, I'm just saying I'm not lettin someone beat the shit ouuta me with no defense, as any non-pussy would agree with.

^^umm...Tha...I don't recall seeing someone blame it on a "bad neighborhood".

Thas what Im sayin.. if someone says shit to me, I always walk away. But if they hit me? Thats a different story..

And fuck a metal detector, the Gym carries bats in the equipment room... theres always weapons, no matter where you are, Ive seen a kid take off his belt a whip a kid with his buckle, cut the guys face from his mouth to his ear.. an that fight was cause a he bumped his girlfriend.

It's a school, how you gonna keep baseball bats outta a school... Theres a team and errything.

that's an oxymoron..>Defense is not an attack

If u inflict injury to someone, u are no longer defending, but on the offense dawg

P.S...Now ur being passive aggressive by calling me a "pussy" simply cuz I disagree with u...c'mon...dat shit aint even needed


I've never been in a fight...I've never had to...I've never been injured cuz someone violated my space...

I think I'm pretty damn smart for stayin out of trouble...

Collin Powell went to Evander highschool,the same school i go to and its considered the worst school in the bronx and he succeded so it dont matter where you from its the decisions you make,but shit if a nigga touches me im defending myself and beat his ass down cause if you dont defend your self you will always be picked on and pushed around.....1...

Yes, yes it defense... Don't you get it????

Ahhhh!!!!

I'm gonna rip my fucking hair out.

man we had this rule already. That's what I told the cop that had took me to the station. I get attacked alot so I'm spose to be a sitting duck and shit. Its always been like that here.

Sorry, that was taken out of context... But in my opinion, if you let someone beat your ass, you are a pussy... And I understand it hasnt happened to you... But where I'm from, your defention of defense isn't enough, just blocking and shit... You need to fight back to get an attacker off you.

NO DAWG...that's NOT DEFENSE...that's OFFENSE...

attempting to redefine a word doesn't redefine what the true definition of it is


if I inflict injury to yoiu, I'm not defending MYSELF. If I tap u lightly on the face, but then u Beat the holy shit outta me, that's not defending yaself dawg.


sorry...there's no justification for not being able to swallow ya pride.

esp. when u have a dream or a future...betta learn to grin and bear it

I duno maybe I atract violence.. people always tryin to size me up when you're 6'9". But when guys start shit with me, I never start it.. I hate fightin escpecially if Im on the recievin end of an ass beating... its never about pride, cause most the time they only brave enough to talk shit when Im alone an theres a few of them so I aint even tryin to act tough infront of someone.

I think people have different ways of gettin out of shit an some people just attract shit. Cause I know a few guys that have never faught in their lives but I get yelled at, have cars turn around to talk shit just when Im walkin to the basketball court.

then DO what u GOTTA DO...but don't call it DEFENSE...call it what it is, Retaliation...


u can't just make up definitions dawg...that's what it is...

Jesus fucking Christ... You don't get it... If someone taps me lightly on the face I won't care... In some cases, even if someone punches me I wont care... But what if someone keeps punching you, that is what I'm saying... You need to punch back, blocks are shit.

That's been at my school as long as I've been there.

It's gay as fuck.

HAA...I find this to be Ironic...u see how tough is it for us to agree on a definition here...that's exactly why the school made that rule


exactly

u can't risk allowing people in school whose only goal is to disrupt and disrespect the rules of the school

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yeah I feel you anx. I don't get how people tell you to not punch back. Q I don't get you on that. Swollow my pride? What good does not hitting him do?

Werd......
but everyone was raised different so everybodys gonna have different opinions on this so there aint no point in arguing

no...the other guy said he was worried about death.Now..in baseball...there's ussually some gym teacher or sumtin around.So the guy will get one swing of his bat on your ass...and then the teacher will come in..n restrain him.And I really doubt one swing of a bat will kill you.And the bats are used for baseball...so why would one team member swing at another team member?

jea we had dat school at our school too , its always been like dat
Who the fuck is just gonna stand there and take hits? lol

Agreed, but not the person that they attacked who was simply defending himself...

If soldiers DEFEND America, they do it with guns... Get it?

word...u wanna know why u attract violence and people size u up?...its cuz u let them

lemme tell u...people test u regardless...they see jus how far they can push u before u react...if they know they can get away wit somethin, they'll do it...people do what u allow...and u attract what u are...

so if Im walkin down the street dressed to the NINES...I mean, looking dapper...niggas will be less likely to look at me and say "look at dat nigga, fuck dat nigga;"...More likely, they'll see how I'm dressed and think, "Aiigh, dat nigga lookin sharp; got his together"...

how u carry urself determines that...Now, u can be whoever u want to be...but, be prepared to deal with whatever that entails.


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Lol EXACTLY. That aint strong that's just the biggest case of pussy and fear I've ever heard of.