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noname 10-28-05 05:26 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
Find a line from today thats better than that.


^to me...it sounded as if you were saying it's the best...

-Zone Out- 10-28-05 05:28 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Natural killa
^to me...it sounded as if you were saying it's the best...

I was waitin for him to find a better line
can YOU find a better line?

noname 10-28-05 05:29 PM

"Turn your tux red, I'm far from broke, got enough bread
And mad hoes, ask Beavis I get nuttin Butt-head"
-Big L

Compose 10-28-05 05:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
wtf, you're retarded


Money and blood dont mix like 2 dicks and no bitch
...find yourself in serious shit
- Biggie

if you understand that bar, then you KNOW how dope it is.
Find a line from today thats better than that.

Right, it is a good line...but it doesnt mean others cant do better

Im so rare
Battlin Chino is like Africa yea they talk about it but they dont really wanna go there

I never did I dont care, come up to air
put your money where your mouth is make my crotch a millionare

Your ass forgot so just in case you dont remember me
Ill run your brain around the block to jog ya fuckin memory
^Thats not even from this time either...

Who dissin’ us?
Yo punks you wait – I punctuate
My karma’s the comma
That put you inside of a coma
Hyphen, dot dot, semi-collen
Leave you semi-swollen
Question Mark: You pregnant?
Oh you’re not? I love you, Period.

Just say the word, I'll leave your DNA on the curb
And stick my dick in your ear and fuck what you heard

Lift up that skirt and see just what type of guy you are
Throw you off the fuckin roof and see just how fly you are

Pac died and I cried but I'm a representer
when it comes to this my shit make Makaveli look like the Macarena

Tell 'em how I'm tired of the state rappers in
Ninety percent of the shit that rappers kick is subject matter-less
Not original, but blasphemous, just a bunch of the same characters
shootin the same videos, it's embarassin
Usin the same formulas to have a hit
Usin the same actors and actresses, same shit different laxative

A wise man see's failure as progress
A fool divorces his knowledge and misses the logic

You get the props off the diamonds you rented
I get my props off the rhymes I invented
Cuz I spoke my mind and I meant it

Compose 10-28-05 05:43 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Natural killa
"Turn your tux red, I'm far from broke, got enough bread
And mad hoes, ask Beavis I get nuttin Butt-head"
-Big L

^Werd to that too lol I remember that

noname 10-28-05 05:44 PM

Hell yea...Big L better than BOTH biggie and pac..lol.

-Zone Out- 10-28-05 05:46 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Natural killa
"Turn your tux red, I'm far from broke, got enough bread
And mad hoes, ask Beavis I get nuttin Butt-head"
-Big L

Now Im in the lime light cos I rhyme tight
time to get paid, blow up like the world trade

-Zone Out- 10-28-05 05:47 PM

a bunch of punchlines dont make you dope
if that was the case
then tupac would be down there with Mike Jones

noname 10-28-05 05:48 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
Now Im in the lime light cos I rhyme tight
time to get paid, blow up like the world trade



you trying to tell me that line was better than Big L's one?

noname 10-28-05 05:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
a bunch of punchlines dont make you dope
if that was the case
then tupac would be down there with Mike Jones



Punchlines is wat make quotables..
And Big L did more than punchlines...
Listen to Causulties of a dice game to see his storytelling skill.

-Zone Out- 10-28-05 05:51 PM

S T F U !

theblob 10-28-05 05:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
S T F U !


CO SIGN.............................................. .........on the dotted mothafuckin line



:thumbup:

Compose 10-28-05 05:53 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
a bunch of punchlines dont make you dope
if that was the case
then tupac would be down there with Mike Jones

You put a wordplay-type line with the serious shit, so I was assuming thats what you wanted

if you want a shitload of non-punchline rhymes, I can give you people like Talib Kweli, Common Sense, Mos Def, Eyedea...etc.

Biggie was not consistent, he could have 1 or 2 good wordplay lines like a whole album...he didnt vary his subject matter and talked about the same shit all the time...THATS why I dont respect him because he is not as good as some of todays emcees...you have to face the facts, I like Canibus, but im not gonna say hes the greatest of all time because there is a chance someone can come along and do better...same way you cant say Biggie is the goat because its just impossible, there is always someone better then you, always.

peace

noname 10-28-05 05:54 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by theblob
CO SIGN.............................................. .........on the dotted mothafuckin line
:thumbup:



Awww....Did Kryo make friends with the gay man?

-Zone Out- 10-28-05 05:54 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Natural killa
Punchlines is wat make quotables..
And Big L did more than punchlines...
Listen to Causulties of a dice game to see his storytelling skill.

there's no way Big L is fuckin with biggie when it comes to story tellin skills

-Zone Out- 10-28-05 05:55 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Natural killa
Awww....Did Kryo make friends with the gay man?

you cant make friends at all
stfu!

Compose 10-28-05 05:55 PM

^lmfao dont even get me started on story telling...Eminem and Nas outshine Biggie on that a million times.

noname 10-28-05 05:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
there's no way Big L is fuckin with biggie when it comes to story tellin skills



No,He doesn't.
Biggie IS better at storytelling..no denying it.
But I wasn't trying to say that Big L was better at Biggie at that aspect.

The point I wuz trying to make was that Big L was NOT one-dimensional and did more than drop punchlines..

Big L was better overall though.

theblob 10-28-05 05:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Compose
^lmfao dont even get me started on story telling...Eminem and Nas outshine Biggie on that a million times.







:nono: .................................................. ..........they don't draw you into the picture like Biggie...

theblob 10-28-05 05:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by efecx
true but your tryin to say big was the best cause of his punches but they hav found much better punches so after that wat has biggie got he aint got a message pac had more than a message he created a lifestyle



that's bull shit

Biggie had a message


if you don't get it, you don't get it.




ad STFU about "Juicy"...listen to the man's lyrics


it's almost like someone who had nothing to lose, found wealth, and lived their dream...


Biggie rapped about simple things, but the way he did it was FAR FROM simple...don't get it twisted

-Zone Out- 10-28-05 05:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Compose
^lmfao dont even get me started on story telling...Eminem and Nas outshine Biggie on that a million times.

you're a retarded white kid if you think that
I can name 5 biggie tracks off the top of my head that aint nobosy else is fuckin with

Compose 10-28-05 06:11 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
you're a retarded white kid if you think that
I can name 5 biggie tracks off the top of my head that aint nobosy else is fuckin with

lmao...im puerto rican, im in NY, but dont get mad cuz wow a white person might be better then a black person in rap...shut the fuck up with that racist shit, I must be a white boy if I like eminem? I dont even like him now, but everything before 2003 by him was legendary and you cant deny that, and in my opinion Nas is way better then Biggie at story telling, thats his main aspect.

Quote:
Originally Posted by theblob
:nono: .................................................. ..........they don't draw you into the picture like Biggie...

Yea no doubt...Biggie was descriptive in his stories but Nas is too, im jus trying to say like...stop with all the whos better etc. bullshit, nobody is the goat because someone is always better then someone else...at the end of the day it all comes down to preference, but when you say some shit like Biggie is the illest at punches or wordplay, then I flip out because that is not true by a long shot.

-Zone Out- 10-28-05 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by efecx
biggie did not hav a real mesage please tell me it cause i dont think biggie had any kind of message he was jsut a much better version of 50cent

Americans are talking
shut the fuck up and sit down

noname 10-28-05 06:16 PM

Trini's >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Americans

-Zone Out- 10-28-05 06:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Compose
lmao...im puerto rican, im in NY, but dont get mad cuz wow a white person might be better then a black person in rap...shut the fuck up with that racist shit, I must be a white boy if I like eminem? I dont even like him now, but everything before 2003 by him was legendary and you cant deny that, and in my opinion Nas is way better then Biggie at story telling, thats his main aspect.


Yea no doubt...Biggie was descriptive in his stories but Nas is too, im jus trying to say like...stop with all the whos better etc. bullshit, nobody is the goat because someone is always better then someone else...at the end of the day it all comes down to preference, but when you say some shit like Biggie is the illest at punches or wordplay, then I flip out because that is not true by a long shot.
BITCH
IM RACIST!!!

-Zone Out- 10-28-05 06:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by efecx
yes because im american :bored:

dont lie, hoe.

Compose 10-28-05 06:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
BITCH
IM RACIST!!!

lmao thats why you suck at everything plus life, you make Biggie ashamed he has fans like you.

peace

-Zone Out- 10-28-05 06:24 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Compose
lmao thats why you suck at everything plus life, you make Biggie ashamed he has fans like you.

peace

it was a joke
suck a dick, get the fuck outta hea

Compose 10-28-05 06:27 PM

Right...but you still didnt say anything important that combats what I said besides "bitch im racist"

you're mad dumb...I think you should let Q fuck you in the ass maybe you'll shut up more.

-Zone Out- 10-28-05 06:30 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Compose
Right...but you still didnt say anything important that combats what I said besides "bitch im racist"

you're mad dumb...I think you should let Q fuck you in the ass maybe you'll shut up more.

because I didnt want to argue with your spic ass.
I said what I wanted to say in a joing mannor
shut the fuck up and dry yo wet ass back

Magic5 10-28-05 06:55 PM

I've heard Ready To Die, so you can just remove that from any response you may have. I've found Biggie to be overrated as hell. I think he's pretty good, but not like "DOPE AS FUCK, BABY!" I like some of his songs.. I just think the skill he showed in everything he put out was hyped up to be more then it was.

Now's the part where Kryo or Lotty comes in and tells me to shut the fuck up because I'm white and live in Arizona, so my opinion must be inferior to theirs because they're black and live in the "ghetto."

It's so fucking stupid. Grow the fuck up. You guys get pissed whenever somebody doesn't like the same rappers, the same thing in songs as you do. I don't like Jay-Z and all of a sudden I can't talk about hip hop. So fucking retarded.

Indeph 10-28-05 07:36 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kryogenix
you're a retarded white kid if you think that
I can name 5 biggie tracks off the top of my head that aint nobosy else is fuckin with



<<< a black kid who has all of biggies albums.

Nas and em> biggie. :bored:

Magic5 10-28-05 10:29 PM

^ Agreed. Nas dominates Biggie.. Eminem's old shit was doper then Biggie's shit.. because right now Eminem is garbo.

High-Dro 10-29-05 03:03 AM

werd...i just bought it a couple months ago....it was brand new in the packaging...and wasn't the remastered version...the original...i came a little bit


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