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noname 11-05-05 05:40 PM

I've lived in NY since I was 6........

leady 11-05-05 05:48 PM

first of all.. u ppl act like US is only place wit ghettos.. wen u forget EVERY country has them and even more or less every city in the world too.... n most UK stuff dont talk bout bustin vguns.. most ppl on that tip speak bout the streets in a way that isnt promotin the lifestyle but is infact talkin about in a way to say it isnt a vgood lifestyle to live and is far from easy... peep reveal - what estate are you from... video link here

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leady 11-05-05 05:50 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Natural killa
Well,like I told E.C........you UK heads should just get together and go somewhere and stay there.Just stay isolated from us all.
It'd do BOTH you and us a good favor...


as bad as racism.... so if u wanna be like we shud isolate all ur race n burn em all... do us all a favour

ye exactly.... now lets see u come in cryin.... i aint racist but wat goes around comes around

noname 11-05-05 05:52 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
first of all.. u ppl act like US is only place wit ghettos.. wen u forget EVERY country has them and even more or less every city in the world too


LoL...
The thought of a UK gangsta makes me laugh...
If a UK individual came up to me with a gun,asking for my money..
I would straight up laugh in his face just by his accent ashole..

THAT'S HOW MUCH OF A CLOWN THAT ACCENT MAKES YOU PEOPLE LOOK!!

And it's not about busting glocks...just them trying to sound hard,angry,sad..or any emotion at all..
They suck.

noname 11-05-05 05:56 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
as bad as racism.... so if u wanna be like we shud isolate all ur race n burn em all... do us all a favour
ye exactly.... now lets see u come in cryin.... i aint racist but wat goes around comes around



Maybe you outta learn to spell or use correct grammar..
Cause I honestly I don't understand wtf your trying to say.

leady 11-05-05 05:57 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Natural killa
LoL...
The thought of a UK gangsta makes me laugh...
If a UK individual came up to me with a gun,asking for my money..
I would straight up laugh in his face just by his accent ashole..

THAT'S HOW MUCH OF A CLOWN THAT ACCENT MAKES YOU PEOPLE LOOK!!

And it's not about busting glocks...just them trying to sound hard,angry,sad..or any emotion at all..
They suck.


wats funny is... i kno ppl that wouldnt even ask u for money... theyd jus slash u n rob whilst u lay bleedin on the floor... n if u laughed at them.. WOW ud prolly end up kidnapped n tortured to near death whilst one of they boys petrol bombs ur house despite if ur family is in it or not... u act sooooooo tuff online but i know you are pussy in real life... you front waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much

noname 11-05-05 05:58 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
u act sooooooo tuff online but i know you are pussy in real life..




hmm...so "YOU KNOW" shit about me,like who I am in real life and shit?

Is That's what you are saying?

leady 11-05-05 05:59 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Natural killa
Maybe you outta learn to spell or use correct grammar..
Cause I honestly I don't understand wtf your trying to say.


wow.. i miss one word out... be like tmhat is wat i meant to say... wow.. n i know ur not talkin bout spellin or grammer.... check urself first fag

leady 11-05-05 06:01 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Natural killa
hmm...so "YOU KNOW" shit about me,like who I am in real life and shit?

Is That's what you are saying?


its obvious... u jus another wannabe e-thug... look mhow u try portray urself to every1.... big hard man... but your a little kid... so i kno if sum 6 foot tall muscle bound thug put a gun to ur head.. ud piss ur pants n beg for ur life despite wat he sounded like... dont try n front like u street

noname 11-05-05 06:03 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
... but your a little kid...


You are dead wrong right there.......I reccomend that,right now, you should just stop with the Miss Chleo gimmic by guessing what we look like...

leady 11-05-05 06:06 PM

well i remember u goin round so long back sayin ur only 15... go figure... every post u make is a contradiction

noname 11-05-05 06:07 PM

Yea...I am 15....still doesn't change shit....
you don't know what the fuck i look like..

leady 11-05-05 06:14 PM

does it matter wat u look like???? since wen did wat u look like come into it???? stupid twat

noname 11-05-05 06:16 PM

Well,for starters...You making all these assumptions about me fronting and not coming from "the streets"..
So yea....

And LoL @ twat...THAT"S why you gay ass UK people need to stay isolated.

leady 11-05-05 06:20 PM

wow... cos our dialect is different???? n how look got nuttin to do wit were u come from

noname 11-05-05 06:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
how look got nuttin to do wit were u come from


I never said Looks got nothing to do with where you come from.. :huh:

chronix 11-05-05 06:31 PM

You guys talk about about U.K heads having a message or w/e....Trust me, there are many artists in the U.S who have a message etc....

Immortal Techinque
KRS-One
Jean Grae
Public Enemy #1
Melle Mel
Common
Jay-Z (at times)
Styles P
Geto Boys
Nas
AZ
J.U.I.C.E


Don't even get me started man....that's just off the top of the dome, so to act like we don't have meaningful lyrics is just a ignorant....

leady 11-05-05 06:34 PM

ownage time

my question

does it matter wat u look like???? since wen did wat u look like come into it???? stupid twat

followed by your answer

Well,for starters...You making all these assumptions about me fronting and not coming from "the streets"..
So yea....

WOW you really are as dumb as i thought u was

Indeph 11-05-05 06:35 PM

Lol @ this even being a question. Don't even compare with our mainstream people cause you know our underground murders everybody, everywhere, all the time.

Indeph 11-05-05 06:37 PM

BTW I'm from the US :bored:

chronix 11-05-05 06:37 PM

word, I think these UK guys are talking about our mainstream, n' not even counting our underground.

Daubs 11-05-05 06:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by chronix
Don't even get me started man....that's just off the top of the dome, so to act like we don't have meaningful lyrics is just a ignorant....


And it is ignorant and narrow minded to hate on a whole culture and rap genre cause its a different accent to your own.

Indeph 11-05-05 06:40 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Daubs
And it is ignorant and narrow minded to hate on a whole culture and rap genre cause its a different accent to your own.


No beef, but chron aint even say shit about the accent to begin with.

Daubs 11-05-05 06:41 PM

I know, its spul trini etc saying that,

read through the whole thread mate.

Indeph 11-05-05 06:42 PM

Kk *slaps self*


Why can't we all just get along :cussing:

Daubs 11-05-05 06:50 PM

Cause dick heads make these stupid threads which cause beef themselves and then you got people like trini always startin shit.

Indeph 11-05-05 06:52 PM

Well I'm sure chronix made the thread for a heated debate. But trini is just a complete idiot shake. Just ignore dude. He hates everything. And loves everything that normal people hate. Just pretend he's cartman off southpark.

noname 11-05-05 06:53 PM

Who's hating who now?

Indeph 11-05-05 06:54 PM

Jp you the man killa

chronix 11-05-05 07:16 PM

You callin' me a dickhead?

Daubs 11-05-05 07:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by chronix
Beat me? No, hoe, My worst flow could leave this hoe soaked
Cuz we all know - you's gaydude - n' this is no joke!//
You Spect to get aWin? Nigga we all know you ain't bein' honest
All ya aliases could be combined n' you still ain''t seein chronix//
Dude are you readin' comments? Your whack - n' I'm an eleet c
Barely could see two by four, what made you think you "wood" beat me?!//
Couldn't see me if you remove the skeet g - I'm lyrically out of ya reach see?!
How you gon' shit on writtens soc? You can't even beat frees!//
Unless yous dyslexic like our president it's obvious I'm first - it's evident
I'll easily kill-a-kali so whaddya thinkin' dude? I'll easily merk a resident//


Na man, your too good for me.

chip 11-05-05 08:13 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
listen to lowkey... mans structure is beyond dope... multies are too dope n rhyme scheme is sik.. n then theres the fact he allways talks bout suttin to educate people... n then we vgot klashnekoff... or ppl like conflix n baron samedi droppin sum of the sikest ryme schemes i ever heard.... trust me i kno so many ppl better than US peeps u mentioned... as for producers... likes of chemo n my boy kelakovski wud shit on on any beats made by ppl u mentioned... n then theres producers like harry love n joe buddah that have made beats i feel are the best hip hop beats i ever heard PERIOD


props to UK artists and LL, but......... Kanye and Alchemist and Dre r better than any UK producers i've ever heard, and Nas, Kanye, Prodigy, Mos Def, Common, not to mention the man in my sig, r definitely dope lyricists....... how could u even think about sayin the US doesn't have dope lyricists..... shit, i'm a perfect example..... there r some cats on here that could son me in a battle, but i can teach u something about urself and the me and my world from my point of view...... sorta like US rappers can feel UK rappers and visa-versa..... this whole argument iz pointless, since we're all doin it for self-expression and to further our craft........ check out the poem in my sig, called all i have..... it's not new, but it's dope, and tell me that some US cats don't get deep w/ their shit.....

noname 11-05-05 08:22 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by chip
props to UK artists and LL, but......... Kanye and Alchemist and Dre r better than any UK producers i've ever heard, and Nas, Kanye, Prodigy, Mos Def, Common, not to mention the man in my sig, r definitely dope lyricists....... how could u even think about sayin the US doesn't have dope lyricists..... shit, i'm a perfect example..... there r some cats on here that could son me in a battle, but i can teach u something about urself and the me and my world from my point of view...... sorta like US rappers can feel UK rappers and visa-versa..... this whole argument iz pointless, since we're all doin it for self-expression and to further our craft........ check out the poem in my sig, called all i have..... it's not new, but it's dope, and tell me that some US cats don't get deep w/ their shit.....


I get the strange feeling that you made that post to get more replies in your open mic :nono:

Daubs 11-05-05 08:24 PM

That strange feelings what us people call common sense.

La Cosa Nostra 11-05-05 08:27 PM

Look..

I think the UK accent can sometimes put a spin on the way their music sounds.. But their shit isnt better than american hip hop... No country I have heard so far has reached that level yet simply because americans have:
A) Been growing up around hip hop for much longer
B) Have an accent more suited to rap music

Hell I aint even gonna front, a lot of the time I simply cant stand aussie hip hop cause, even though theres cats out there that have talent, they just dont match up when you put them on an international scale.

This is a big reason why I prefer to listen and learn from american rappers over other aussie rap artists, because my style is now something that can match up to american artists. I have adopted a way of molding my voice to sound and make good use of my australian accent, but flow with the same style underground cats in america use.

You have to understand that the larger market is always gonna be in America and in order to rise up you obviously need to intergrate even slightly so that your music can appeal to the larger audiences aswell, even if you never make it big over there.. It will still be a welcome innovation no matter where you go.....

Essentually I never copy anyone... I'm only more realistic in my approach..

But music will always be subjective and people will always become defencive when in arguments over which culture produces better music. My advice to everyone is to drop the bullshit and think of hip hop as just a form of music rather than some big competition over whose better. Apreciate things for what they are.

leady 11-05-05 08:35 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by chip
props to UK artists and LL, but......... Kanye and Alchemist and Dre r better than any UK producers i've ever heard, and Nas, Kanye, Prodigy, Mos Def, Common, not to mention the man in my sig, r definitely dope lyricists....... how could u even think about sayin the US doesn't have dope lyricists..... shit, i'm a perfect example..... there r some cats on here that could son me in a battle, but i can teach u something about urself and the me and my world from my point of view...... sorta like US rappers can feel UK rappers and visa-versa..... this whole argument iz pointless, since we're all doin it for self-expression and to further our craft........ check out the poem in my sig, called all i have..... it's not new, but it's dope, and tell me that some US cats don't get deep w/ their shit.....


i never said US dont vgot dope lyricists... but i aint EVER heard any US rapper drop rhyme schemes n structures as complicated as alot of UK peeps are capable of and tend to do.... also... the topics... it aint about bein deep.. its about bein creative.. n in america.. anybody who is ur mainstream is very generic n played wit the topics... but in UK despite mans status... they allways keep the originality and the lyricism... as for producers... kanye is way over-rated... dude cant make a beat unless its sampled... yes.. Alchemist is dope... dre... over-rated... has made sum classics.. but is very in-consistant... but ppl like chemo, kelakovski, harry love n joe buddah... none of em have EVER failed to impress me wit they beats

La Cosa Nostra 11-05-05 08:51 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by leady
i never said US dont vgot dope lyricists... but i aint EVER heard any US rapper drop rhyme schemes n structures as complicated as alot of UK peeps are capable of and tend to do.... also... the topics... it aint about bein deep.. its about bein creative.. n in america.. anybody who is ur mainstream is very generic n played wit the topics... but in UK despite mans status... they allways keep the originality and the lyricism... as for producers... kanye is way over-rated... dude cant make a beat unless its sampled... yes.. Alchemist is dope... dre... over-rated... has made sum classics.. but is very in-consistant... but ppl like chemo, kelakovski, harry love n joe buddah... none of em have EVER failed to impress me wit they beats

Dude... If you talked like that anywhere else, you would get a big reality check.

leady 11-05-05 09:49 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by efecx
*come and shake a leg wit me*


i dnt concider ppl like roll deep to be hip hop but more grime which is like the new age garage music... and i dont class roll deep anywhere near the level of talent of our real artists.. yes we do got sum that make club tunes... but every genre in every country has that... but wen u look at how many dope lyricists we got compared to how many club rappers we got... club rappers are out numbered beyond beleif

Ysdat 11-05-05 09:52 PM

wtf @ this entire argument. rap is the one place were rasicm and culture are some what one.

Wtf@ kids acctually arguing tryna say there country is "better"
Its cool to have pride abotu were your from, but reality is, there is no "best" in rap

wtf @ kids in this thread not even understanding that rap is worldwide, which is a fucking huge positive thing. Anything that can bring a generation of music lovers together to represent the same culture equally is fucking genius.

wtf@ you!!!! yes, you!!


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