yea, that was hot shit. But i still think Nas has a lot in his tank.

"Can we please have a moment of silence"

Jay-z is the king of new york
Biggie is not overrated, cos he's dope as fuck.
Nuff said

I know damn near all of Biggie's lyrics. What of BIG did Jay supposedly write?

Osama bin laden is the king of NY.

and Nas is no where as good as Jay-z
ether wasnt as good as Blueprint 2

lmao....thats fucked

Like i said, nas cant be touched by Jay Lyrically. But i would have to agree that Jay makes better varieties of music. I can only listen to Nas in my room wit the TV off.

and I doubt if jay wrote some of his shit
prolly HELPED
like if me and my igga writin to a beat, and Im like damn, I dont know what to write next
and my boy is like say "such such and such"
and I use it.
and maybe he get stuck, and I be like say "this this and that"
nahsayen?

Nas and jay got two different styles. You can listen to nas and feel like dude is right in the room talkin' to you. With jay he a good rapper and makes alot of upbeat songs. Both good to me. Two different styles though.

Blueprint 2 was nice...but 2.1 was better...it had some ill joints on it, but was kinda like a hodge-podge of tracks


anyway...all this "King of NY" shit is jus braggin...like sayin "IM DA BEST RAPPER" kinda ish...

Cities don't have KINGS the last time I checked...and neither do states...so. who cares!?!?!

I'm sure 50cent will come out as the "King of NY" soon

lyrically?
LYRICALLY
Evidently you dont know what THAT means
Jay-z shits on Nas lyrically

damn thats fucking wrong on so many levels :shocked:

im talkin about blueprint 2 the song, not the album

Nas and Jay are both ill as shit...and i basically listen to everything they put out...


but Big....is still overrated

Yeah I know. Thats what ya'll get from calling chicago the 2nd city. We the 1st city. Bitch.

Big is doper than Pac

"...Sex with death, indulge in these women
Vision my own skeleton swimmin in eternal fire
Broads play with pentagrams in they vagina
Like the Exorcist, then they gave birth to my seeds
I beg for God's help, why they love hurtin me?
I'm your disciple, a thug certainly
I'm the N the A to the S-I-R
If I wasn't I must've been Escobar
Forty-five in my waist, starin at my reflection
In the mirror, sittin still in the chair like my conception
When everything around me got cloudy, the chair became a king's throne
My destiny found me..."

- Nas (Your the Man)

true shit.

lmao............

Quit ignoring me.

Tupac is the king. Not Nas, not Jay, not Biggie. Osama comes close, but falls short to Pac.

no offense, but this is just a modern day, "Who's better, Tupac or Big" thread, lol. Can we find something more constructive to talk about. Like, "How can we become better Rappers" or somethin

Um, become creative?

ehh id rather talk about how BIG is overrated....then laugh when people actually think he isnt

why?
this IS a rap site?
you wanna talk about that, then make another thread

ANYWAY

Too much West coast dick-lickin, and too many niggaz on a mission
Doin your best Jay-Z rendition
Too many rough motherfuckers, I got my suspicions
that you're just a fish in a pool of sharks nigga, listen
Too many bitches wanna be ladies, so if you a hoe
I'ma call you a hoe, too many bitches are shady
Too many ladies give these niggaz too many chances
Too many brothers wannabe lovers don't know what romance is
Too many bitches stuck up from too many sexual advances
No question; Jay-Z got too many answers
I been around this block, too many times
Rocked, too many rhymes, cocked, too many nines, too
To all my brothers it ain't too late to come together
Cause too much black and too much love, equal forever
I don't follow any guidelines cause too many niggaz ride mine
so I change styles every two rhymes, hah, what the fuck
That's 22 too's for y'all motherfuckers out there, yaknahmean?
Shall I continue? Check it out, what?

only thing that seperates jayz from pac and big......is death

I find it amazing that Jay and Nas are almost like Pac and BIG...u're fans of either ONE or the OTHER...never really both...I mean, I respect PAC, but PAC's music just didn't move me the way Biggie's "Ready 2 Die" did...

I had no choice over that...and, to me, it wasn't HYPE...I only started listenin to biggie in 1999...he had already been dead..

I've heard damn near EVERY rapper who's considered a top 40 rapper...And, NONE of them, NONE of them move me the wayu Biggie's music DID and still DOES...And, I'm not alone in my thinking...That's why Biggie is widely regarded as one of the top 5 emcees of ALL TIME...

there's a reason for it...they don't just randomly pull emcees out their ass and say "LETS MAKE HIM A TOP 5 PICK"...shit...Tupac wasn't even respected this much when he was alive...he was like the 50 cent of his day


1

22 toos is a dope ass song

Pac didnt even become famous until juice
where he played a killa
what does that tell you?

no actually....im a NAS and Jay fan....so yea...

i dumbed down for my audience and tripled my dollars
they criticize me for it yet they all yell "Holla"

nuff said

ok Q.....how the hell would u know all this shit about what was going on when they were alive...........if u didnt even start listening to the fucker till 99.....

jesus your a moron

Q likes Big so much cuz of the "She look so good, I'll suck her daddy dick" line.

Tupac cud be named king of NY seein as he was born there..but id say the king wud be Jay Z...nigga did his shit real dope..and the quote phenom quoted on the first page proves dat

nah my man B.I.G. P.O.PP. A got that shit on lock and will alwyas have it on lock. R.I.P. Thats my dawg

Doesn't matter if your a NAS and a JAY fan...Biggie AND a Pac fan...ur typically a fan of ONE more than the OTHER...

it's like a movement...a way of thinking

People need to stop being fuckin morons...Music is art...it's about how people relate to it and how it moves them...Biggie and Pac did that better than anyone...there music invoked emotions in people...dat = ART

Who gives a shit if some BUMFUCK in WEST BUMFUCK county technically can write a bar "better" than Biggie...

It's EVERYthing that surrounds it


and I can even bring MYSELF into this equation...If I became famous, of course some dumb asses, I mean PEOPLE wouldn't like my shit...dats anyone...but, for every 1 person who hates my shit, 10 more will like it

even look at the audio heads on RV...and Imma compare myself to em honestly right now

There are some emcees on RV with better voices than I have... ECKO for one has the BEST VOICE on RV, IMO

Sme people have better FLOWS than I do...Enygma being ONE of them

Some people are deeper...Intermental being one of them

Some people have better Metas...Triple N being one of them

Some people have a better delivery...Shit, TITO being one of them

But, the reason why alotta people like my music so much is cuz my music stirs emotions...u either LOVE it or u HATE it...JUST the way I like it...

I can flow..yea...I can rhyme..yea...and I can write decent lyrics...but, the major draw of my music for the people who DO LIKE IT is that I invoke reaction and spark that...


So..for me, Biggie is dope all around...But, it was how it MOVED ME as ART that I respect the most about his music.

oh shit my bad, but u got the point no?

I've since studied the history of Biggie and Pac...on countless levels...U know..READ...learn...STUDY...LISTEN...


ur a MORON if u didn't know that was possible