Jay > Camron

when youve been in the game as long as jay has, and youve done what he has for the game...I think you merit a few recycled rhymes...and besides....95% of the rap Industry recycle or ''bite'' rhymes from old school artists.

to think that Cam is anywhere near Jays level is ridiculous to me.

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wait a fuckin second,all yall lil kids are fuckin RIDIN eminem on this board when he DRESSES UP LIKE A FUCKIN GIRL IN 90% OF HIS VIDEOS NOT TO MENTION THERE'S BEEN ACCUSATIONS OF HIM BEIN GAY BUT U'RE TALKIN ABOUT THE COLOUR OF CAM'S CLOTHES??!?? come the fuck on.....

wtf man.... em ant gay and he dresses like that makin fun of ppl, thats apart of rap but maybe u duno what rap is if u dissen em....

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i dont remember anything in my quote saying SHIT about eminem, im talkin about jay z and cam, eminem aint shyt to do with this

What the fuck is this...look I don't even really think it's biting at a certain point it feels like feeding, me and my boy were freestyling the other day and i said

"see me letrent, derek and paul the fantastic 4
but i'm still the hottest nigga walkin like i'm johnny storm"

then next night we freeing again and he looks at me with a smirk mid freestyle and says

"the hottest thing walkin like johnny storm"

everyone busts out laughing and shit, that wasn't biting it was basically feeding and joking and i think the shit jigga does is the same thing, in a respect manner

Think about it, half these fucking kids don't even know biggie's rhymes, they're just dickriders who say, yea biggie and pac are the best, if you say who are the best rappers ever, they say em, jay z,biggie, pac, nelly, fuckin chingy, etc. They don't know big daddy kane or even rakim nah mean? It's a form of schoolin the game.

But....

when jay was beefin with nas NOBDODY SAID SHIT WHEN HE BIT HALF HIS VERSE FROM BIGGIE AND DMX

"You wack you twisted your girl's a hoe, you broke, kid ain't yours and everybody know, yo mans even tell you, you be like so, i love my baby mother, i never let em go stupid"

EVERYBODY'S ALL, OHHH THAT WAS SOO CLEVER, STFU

Not to mention that he makes up half the words he uses, i think he just can't rhyme and starts that shit

roody poody olly toolly wolly dooly shit

fuck outta here.....

Plus the fact that jigga just happens to be able to drop platinum hits on a day by day basis while cam can't even stick to the english language...or a real language for that.

HE WOULD GET FUCKIN WAXED AND THAT'S IT.

I say Jay-z would win. Who gets the most air play? who sells the most records? who makes the most money? I know rapping has nothing to do with that. but the fans have spoking. don't u think if cam'ron was any good he would've have as much platinum records as jay and would be on the same level as jay. ANd for thoses who didn't know jay-z has replied to cams diss track. It was trash though.

and i also think cam is tryin to diss jay becuz he wants more fans so he can get more money

any one got a link to the vid???

cant believe this is still being discussed.and why has camron only just decided to go at jay...hmmm,i wonder why.

id rather jay just concentrate on the nas project...

cam should just go beef with 50 or something...he might even stand a chance then.

If jay put his mind to it he can beat him.

jay will kill cam.... cam is just cocky... all his shyt sounds the same.... his most popular tracks are the ones where he constantlt repeats shyt... (Oh Boy, for example)... his first album was trash... prolly had like 2-3 good songs on it but the only one i can think of is Horse and Carriage... meanwhile... Jay-z drops platinum non-stop... can't knock da hustle.... has countless hits under his belt including a track he did called the Originators which dropped before he even had an album out... Cam gets boring real quick... jay stays on his game... had very few missteps in his career... jay actually wrote for artists so y'all talking about him biting shyt and he prolly the one who wrote it in da first place... (ask Dr. Dre who wrote "Still" and put him back out there as large as life... answer=Jay-Z... and yes Dre admitted it publicly)... there is no way you can tell me that Jay would lose against a second string emcee... jay is a franchise player... Cam rides da bench... nuff said

Here's the link for the video http://str8hiphop.com/camron_touch_...317&q=hip%2Bhop
if it do work just got to str8hiphop.com and go to videos
anyway:
as we all know a lot of rappers bite right? so does that make them a better rapper or not? jay z in my personal opinion this made him a worst rapper than he was before because of the fact that he said that he freestyle his songs or what not. Cam could beat jay z because jay isn't all of what he is made up to be. as for Nas he is out of the picture.
and for ILL grammatix i liked your comment but saying that jay is trying to keep B.I.G. alive is just a cover up for him to continue to bite
if he wants to keep him alive keep make a song with one of is lines like Swiss B.

ok... take the number of lines Jay- Z "bit"... then take the # of original lines he has over his career... then take into account that he has written for other emcees on platinum selling albums... then try again to tell me that Jay-z is "a worst rapper than he was before"... and he doesn't freestyle his rhymes... he just doesn't write them down... there's a difference between spitting a line and recording it and freestyling... i've seen one of his sessions and i see that it takes several takes for Jay to get a song down... he's constantly changing lines while trying to memorize as he goes...

kats is constantly tryna steal credit from jay-z and that dude been putting it down for ages!!!! ok... what about when jay was dropping before BIG came out?... that was some classic shyt if you ever heard Jay spit before the Rocafella days!!! a lot of kats fail to understand that Jay has a gift... if ya don't like him well that's all good... you ain't gon like everyone.... but don't try and discredit everything he did for the game... like, "oh, i used to like him... but now that same song is corny cuz he used a line that one of his best friends did"... that shyt sounds crazy to me... dope rhymes is dope rhymes... and like jay told nas.... "you made it a hot line... I made it a hot song!"

That is just the most retarded statement ever made...Jyou're defending someone that bit and then you ACCUSE cameron of biting


How fucking STUPID are you?!?!?! :nono:

And why the FUCK are you people on jayz's dick....cant yall see that he is mutherfucking FAKE?!

He should've been shot when Bonnie and clyde came out! No one bites from my favourite rapper NO ONE! Makaveli r.i.p

But it gets even worse....looking at you fucking bitches sitting here saying 'oh he only bit 12 lines' the fuck are you stupid? jayz bit MORE than 12 FUCKING LINES!!!

And when someone that is not even fucking famous bites ONE LINE on this board they get banned....so why do YOU ban and HATE emcees that bite, but when wack ol' jayz bites itz O fucking K

PLEASE get off his dick...lmao.....''i'm not a writer i'm a writer'' cameron OWNED him and im not even a cam faN!

LOL!!