Read Apexx's post on the subject..

It pretty much cleared everything up...

i agree with this.....totally

i know somewhere it also says God holds the world in the palm of his hand, so do you think thats just symbolism saying he is always watching or, do you think he actually is everywhere all the time????

damn i thought it was fat joe lol

or lil wayne .....................lol

"The white image, of Christ, is really Cesare Borgia
and uhh, the second son of Pope Alexander
The Sixth of Rome, and once the picture was shown
That's how the devils tricked my dome"-GZA Basic instructions before leaving earth

Nos, "god" is not the universe. "God", by definition is considered to be infinite and timeless where as the universe has an age (verified by carbon dating) and is dying and collapsing.

oh also, if God were the universe, then the superstring theory would be non existant.

not only that, but the universe has a beginning and an end. Our current universe is expanding. Eventually, it'll collapse on itself and expand again. Who knows how long that's been going on.

Here's an interesting theory though. I've heard that the chaos in space is actually remnants of the spiritual battle God had with Lucifer in heaven eons ago.

who knows...sounds interesting anyway

from an artistz mind that pictured him like that.

so it wasen't lil wayne damn *i smoke to much

"The white image, of Christ, is really Cesare Borgia
and uhh, the second son of Pope Alexander
The Sixth of Rome, and once the picture was shown
That's how the devils tricked my dome"-GZA Basic instructions before leaving earth
^ that is the the name of the so called jesus in those pictures

if everyone just "knew" right and wrong then people wouldn't murder or rape...by civiliZed people's standards, both are wrong...you don't just "know" what's right and wrong...you know because your parents TEACH you

it's like a child putting his or her hand over a hot stove, they don't "know" it's wrong before they do it...they know what happens after

right and wrong isn't built into us...it's learned and dictated to us generation to generation...that's why we have LAWS based on right and wrong...and those laws are based on what religion views as right and wrongs...like it or not

so does that mean that since laws are based on religious beliefs you won't follow them because of their origin?...I hope not

who the fuck gives a shit, stop having hardons off controversy, go to work or school or somethin.

damn so it wasen't fat joe

Obviously 'we' give a shit...and you made the choice of coming into this thread, what makes you think you have a say on what can and cannot discuss

this is some wild shit.............

and why would do you care?

when you are younger you are taught certain principles of right and wrong..when you are old you are able to distinguish on your own what is right and wrong so in a sense we do 'know' the difference between right and wrong wether or not we choose to do the right things is different...

because you come in this thread saying who gives a shit and what not, when obviously the people that are posting do, we are discussing our views on the subject if you don't have anything to add just stay out, you want us to stop all this 'contraversy' as you call it but no put a gun to your head and told you to come in here in the first place

i didnt ask if you cared about my post, i asked why you cared about this thread

why do you care why he cares?



^^Last time I checked, there was nothing wrong with discussion.

Why'd you change your name?...

because it has to do with what " I " believe and what " I " don't believe...you can post your opinions in here and i would be totally fine with that and I would respect it but don't come in and say stuff like "who gives a shit"

Its Jesus from myspace.

Here's the problem with what you just stated. Even if God swooped down from heaven and stood before you, that wouldn't make someone "believe" that he exists. People have been doubting God and refuting him since the beginning of time. Pharoah doubted the existence of Moses' God, until God showed him signs and wonders. Jesus spoke on this very topic in the parable of Lazarus--not his friend that he rose from the dead. A rich and evil man died and went to hell. From hell, he asked God if he could go back to warn others that it was all real. God then told him that even if he did go back, they wouldn't believe what he had to say. "Faith" isn't just believing in God. Faith is action. Faith is serving God and doing what he says, KNOWING that you'll be rewarded as a result. Only a fool says in his heart, "there is no God."

Quite frankly, it is counter-logical to believe something you can't see. That's called Faith. Jesus said, "Blessed are those who haven't seen, and still believe."

ok, you're right


you're so cool

L.I...I was under the impression that the days of the week came from the names of Norse gods? I don't believe pagan includes Iceland, does it? - shrugs. - Such as, Thor's Day = Thursday, and I think Wednesday is Woden's Day...I can't recall all o' em, but I have studied a lot of mythology.

- shrugs. - I haven't touched onto paganism...I should, it's bound to be really interesting.

Theorys on the universe state that after its demise it will go into a crunch and then bounce back resulting in the birth of a new universe. Old into new and the cycle is reborn.

And why would the superstring theory be non-existant?

lmfaoooooooooooooooooooo

Jesus.... :thumbup:

What's this infatuation with Jesus? Damn...Da Vinci Code ready to make Titanic money at the box office...

If "God" "swooped down from heaven" and stood before me, I wouldn't believe that he exists. I'd KNOW that he exists. And for the record, I know that a god exists. Just not in the capacity that the bible exhagerates it into from the story they plagerized from the enum enlish.




No doubt about it, but in order for a new one to be born, the old universe must first die. If it dies, that means it is capable of dying - which according to the Bible is not something God is capable of. Not to mention that the bible states that after God made himself, he came to make the "heavens and the earth". "Heaven" is above earth. What's above earth is space. The inky blackness of carbon ether. If he made it as he made the planet earth, then he could not possibly be the universe, for it is a creation that he created AFTER he already came into existence.

Because I changed my whole life. I needed something more representative of who I am today, not who I was yesterday.

that is a picture of iosua beniamen ioseph...aka the pendragon...aka decendent of hybridized annunaki... a merlin of sorts... the real devil... got all you believin some shit ... that was basic alchemy...idiots ...

...Er...elaborate, immortal. Annunaki is like a nephilim, dark angel kind of? And that man was one of them?

yeah the annunaki ... aka. angels oriphim, nephilim, seraphim, were different sects... or heirarchies of angels... we as stupid conditioned humans...also hybrids of the annunaki and some form oh existing hominid...called called them angels in our ignorance ... if you would like to learn more about this ... go to www.crystalinks.com
you can also google sumerian clay tablets, annunaki, elohim, the epic of gilgamesh, the descent of innana, planet x, niburu, the 12th planet...and zecharia sitchen...in crystal links look up annunaki, ancient flying vessels(vimanas) the emerald tablets of thoth(pronounced toth)... all of this information is debatable... but i will say this take it as a grain of salt and also the truth is most definately stranger than fiction...!!!

But does one really die if all thats happening is a large compression followed by a re-birth as a new cycle is created?

And as the big bang happens, the matter that now makes up the earth would have been forming along with all other planets in the universe right after the heavens (which would be referring to the starry sky dome that they saw from the earth back then) had just come into existance as the earth would have just started attaching itself into orbit with the sun.

However remember also that the bible, although a great read.. Is not always going to be scientifically correct.. It's explenation of how the world came to be is pretty realistic as to what may have happened.. But theres no real way someone from 2000+ years ago back when science was literally non-existant could give an accurate theory of what went down back when there were no earthly inhabitants to view such happenings. And even these days we can only give off plausable theorys. For all we know, our galaxy was singularily formed through matter leading through a black hole from another parralelle universe creating a big bang effect then slowly reaching a point of demise where the effect is turned back on itself sucking everything slowly back in and beginning a new cycle in another universe or universal location. For all we know, the big bang theory is way more localised than our innitial theorys. Possibly the universe is a constant?

The reason I believe god is the universe is simple deductive logic. It makes more sense realistically than a sepetate entity being that god is supposidly everywhere in the universe at the same time.. He takes no depictable form, he is in complete control of everything and everything abides by his laws.

We were supposidly made in his image.. Look at the human brain. It is essentually millions of tiny receptors all connected to make a larger whole. The universe is an inconcievable amount of tiny stars and planets all connected, moving together through the force of gravity.

There is so much about this universe that we literally have absolutly no idea about. Our science of today is primative compared to what it will become in the distant future. I mean I could be wrong? God could be some kind of universal energy force? Or he could be a seperate entity.. I'm just going by whats most logical and realistic in concurrance to the currant human knowledge on these matters.

Fucking Europeans....
Jesus is white.
God is black.

I'm at a big fucking lost right now...

P.S.
Who the fuck believes in a psyhic.
She's just some researcher terapist bitch.

Yeah...seriously...what the fuck? Pyramids in the grid? A dude from Atlantis came to earth in a UFO?