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Key... 03-28-06 11:09 PM

Prior to 9/11 the president was actually proposing an amnesty program with Mexico for undocumented workers.

But Suddently.

9/11 occurred and everything changed. We are now living in a culture of fear and that fear brings out the worst aspects of the human condition.

Tha Q. 03-28-06 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Key Rogue
Should we toughen the borders but revamp our immigration laws for Mexicans?

c'mon

the U.S. has benefited enormously from the contribution that migrant workers have made to building our economy and middle class.



And? What does that have to do with protecting our borders now?...We live in different times bro.

locknes 03-28-06 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by The Revelation
Then they need to stop taking the easy way out and stop running away from it. They need to start helping themselves by helping their common man which is in their country.

I mean, if they aren't allowed in here it's because the US is becoming overpopulated. We have a reason to turn them away, it isn't because we just pick them out of a hat and go 'Ok, they're rejected', there are reasons. The government isn't a bunch of drooling idiots, the laws work, we just need to enforce them.

If we want to help the world, we need to stop letting them in our country, and help them rebuild their own, or establish their own. We did it, so can they.

i agree

but like tupac said "they got money for wars but cant feed the poor"

Tha Q. 03-28-06 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by locknes
i agree

but like tupac said "they got money for wars but cant feed the poor"



how many poor people were tupac feeding?

locknes 03-28-06 11:13 PM

he actualy did feed alot of poor people watch the thug angel dvd

Key... 03-28-06 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
And? What does that have to do with protecting our borders now?...We live in different times bro.


Bro Bush wants to toughen the border security on saying illegal immigration was adding to crime and placing a burden on schools and police in border communities.

Sean Gunner 03-28-06 11:19 PM

Well let's look at it this way.

Let's say every year 25,000+ people immigrate to the US from Mexico (very small estimate)

So every 5 years 125,000 immigrate here.

With a wall, tightened security, etc... Less than 10,000 people immigrate here illegaly. So every 5 years less than 50,000 immigrate here illegaly.

Now, back at my 25,000 people estimate. Let's say the average tax charge is $1000. This means that $25,000,000 is gone because of illegal immigration. This money lost is nothing compared to the real number. Every 5 years we lose $125,000,000 because of illegal immigration.

Imagine the good that could come out of 125 million dollars for the US. We could start paying back the national debt, we could also start helping poorer families.

http://www.cis.org/articles/2001/mexico/release.html
^^^For more stats.

Tha Q. 03-28-06 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Key Rogue
Bro Bush wants to toughen the border security on saying illegal immigration was adding to crime and placing a burden on schools and police in border communities.




aiight...but, regardless of his intent, the borders need patrolling anyway...

Shear Kaughn 03-29-06 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Key Rogue
What you think of the topic?

Agree or disagree

ya'll see all them mexicans marchin to get there greencards etc...

you also seen what bush said on tv "We dont need mexicans at this moment, only when there is work available we need them" meaning when the rest of the Americans wont work for minumum wage there is always a mexican who will!!

sad but nobody really gets the message. Slavery is back people.



slavery isn't back and it never will be back in this country...........make some sense holmes


and another thing...these peope arn't even supposed to be in this country in the first place....bush is trying to help them out.....he could just say...every alian you come in contact with.........throw em back over the border

lolsobelol 03-29-06 01:58 AM

woooow@ the thread title

but uh.. I have a question.. why are all the protestors here raising mexican flags when they want to STAY in america? =/

Tha Q. 03-29-06 12:00 PM

"Good" news for all you Bush haters...Those Bible codes I've been talking about, well, they've found a code that prophesies G.W. Bush will die at the hand of terror. It prophesies Bush will be assasinated.









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Magic5 03-29-06 03:14 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Key Rogue
Bro Bush wants to toughen the border security on saying illegal immigration was adding to crime and placing a burden on schools and police in border communities.


And. . the lie/deceit/bullshit lies where in that statement?

Do you live in a border community? Because I DO. Tell me how illegal immigrants aren't putting a burden on crime. People who aren't supposed to be here break the laws and fill up space in jails that the state doesn't have. Tell me how illegal immigrants aren't placing a burden on schools. People who don't speak English are showing up at schools down here and the state is having to pay for their education. Now, you can say, "But wait, education is free until you're in college!" but just recently a judge ruled that the state of Arizona has to pay 1 MILLION dollars EVERYDAY until "English learning" students do better in school. Another 80 million dollars is being spent in 10 million dollar increments every year to help them. In Arizona, standardized test results are a fucking JOKE in the parts of the state that are highly populated with illegal immigrants. And the burden on police goes back to crime. . it's not really a burden on police in that protecting the state is their job.

But. . tell me how Bush was lieing by saying illegal immigrants aren't a burden on border communities. Go ahead. . start.

Magic5 03-29-06 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
I hear people shouting "right to a better life." Well, isn't that a moot point? I mean, do illegal immigrants have a right to break into your house because you're living nicely and they have a right to a "better life"? I'm not understanding their point of view.


Lmao. KOOL COL-B's arguement just got shattered.

Tha Q. 03-29-06 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMPIN aint easy
n u got this from where???

n wats wit this 1 shit??




Using ELS, G.W. Bush has been located in the torah, as well as other figures from the 20th and 21st centuries. A recent code was discovered that associated the phrase death by terror and assasination with Bush. The same happened with Yitzak Rabin. And, we all know, he was asssasinated in 1995. It's all documented bro. Look up the research of Michael Drosnin.

KOOL COL-B 03-29-06 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
Lmao. KOOL COL-B's arguement just got shattered.


no.

i know alot of white people who smoke crack n do all kinds of crazy shit. do u? ur white so u must.

just cuz SUM ppl do it duzznt mean they ALL do it. werd

locknes 03-29-06 03:49 PM

you know what is ironic that bush is prolife but he is against abortion
and for war apparently marines lives arnt worthy.

Tha Q. 03-29-06 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMPIN aint easy
he is against abortion because he cant profit from it

he is for war because he can make huge profits from



iono...he's against blacks but profit from us?

or does he?


:huh:

Magic5 03-29-06 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by KOOL COL-B
no.

i know alot of white people who smoke crack n do all kinds of crazy shit. do u? ur white so u must.

just cuz SUM ppl do it duzznt mean they ALL do it. werd


What are you talking about? I don't think Tha Q was LITERALLY talking about "breaking into your house." Look at the bigger picture. . the "house" is the "United States." The homeless person is the "illegal immigrant." He just put EXACTLY what it is happening on a smaller scale to show how fucking stupid the "better life" bullshit is.

Magic5 03-29-06 04:12 PM

You can't profit and take losses at the same time. That doesn't even make sense. "Well, he profits but also loses money from the same group of people. ." You should consider rewording that statement or something.

KOOL COL-B 03-29-06 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
What are you talking about? I don't think Tha Q was LITERALLY talking about "breaking into your house." Look at the bigger picture. . the "house" is the "United States." The homeless person is the "illegal immigrant." He just put EXACTLY what it is happening on a smaller scale to show how fucking stupid the "better life" bullshit is.


o, ROFL @ me thinkni he actually ment theyre breakin ni houses n shit.

but yeah, people r too selfish. id rather make my life a lil werse 2 help sum1 else whos life would b fucking shitty az shit. werd

locknes 03-29-06 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMPIN aint easy
he is against abortion because he cant profit from it

he is for war because he can make huge profits from

exacatly what i was thinking

Incineratedrose 03-29-06 05:06 PM

Rofflflf @ this locknes pud, thinking hes making all of these glorious and educated statements. You're a faggot. Shut up and die.

Mexicans are annoying and are fucking up the country, period.

locknes 03-29-06 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by My Sharona
Rofflflf @ this locknes pud, thinking hes making all of these glorious and educated statements. You're a faggot. Shut up and die.

Mexicans are annoying and are fucking up the country, period.

you are so racist
have help out this country there are always gonna be people from a race that commit crimes

Magic5 03-29-06 06:01 PM

^ You don't even make sense. . you should just like, leave this thread.

locknes 03-29-06 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
^ You don't even make sense. . you should just like, leave this thread.

ill put in lamens terms when the irish came over to america
they commited mad crimes so what im sayin for your simple mind is
that any of course there are gonna be mexicans who commit crimes
but not all of them are gonna
if you believe that you are racist.

Tha Q. 03-29-06 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by locknes
ill put in lamens terms when the irish came over to america
they commited mad crimes so what im sayin for your simple mind is
that any of course there are gonna be mexicans who commit crimes
but not all of them are gonna
if you believe that you are racist.




Why are we comparing past immigrations with the situation we're facing today? Have we all forgotten 9/11? And, just recently, "nuclear material" was smuggled into this country as part of an experiment to test how effective our border patrol is = NON EFFECTIVE. Mexicans could be the new terrorists for all we know.







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locknes 03-29-06 06:21 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Tha Q.
Why are we comparing past immigrations with the situation we're facing today? Have we all forgotten 9/11? And, just recently, "nuclear material" was smuggled into this country as part of an experiment to test how effective our border patrol is = NON EFFECTIVE. Mexicans could be the new terrorists for all we know.







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that was cold but what about canadians its easier to cross through canada

that is called being racist because you guys are only going against only the mexicans im not against what you are sayin i agree but i think we should do it against the canadians to

Quote:
Originally Posted by My Sharona
Rofflflf @ this locknes pud, thinking hes making all of these glorious and educated statements. You're a faggot. Shut up and die.

Mexicans are annoying and are fucking up the country, period.

^ the is the racism im talking about what if you where mexican who made it here legaly and you heard that

Tha Q. 03-29-06 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by locknes
that was cold but what about canadians its easier to cross through canada

that is called being racist because you guys are only going against only the mexicans im not against what you are sayin i agree but i think we should do it against the canadians to


^ the is the racism im talking about what if you where mexican who made it here legaly and you heard that



How many Canadians are sneaking into this country? Counstruction workers are mostly Mexican. I know because my father has been a construction worker/foreman for 25 years.

locknes 03-29-06 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
How many Canadians are sneaking into this country? Counstruction workers are mostly Mexican. I know because my father has been a construction worker/foreman for 25 years.

so lets say they close the border from mexicans they can still attack us
through canada and my friends dad who got deported to columbia
for coke charges got back 3 months ago
he just walked across

Crazy Hades 03-29-06 06:31 PM

Bro...if Mexicans are going to fly all the way across America to get to Canada, then go through the Canadian border, they're fucking stupid. Or are the Mexicans going to swim along America, ignoring every piece of land that would grant them passage into America, instead going to Canada and leaving through there? Yeah, that'll happen...

locknes 03-29-06 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Hades
Bro...if Mexicans are going to fly all the way across America to get to Canada, then go through the Canadian border, they're fucking stupid. Or are the Mexicans going to swim along America, ignoring every piece of land that would grant them passage into America, instead going to Canada and leaving through there? Yeah, that'll happen...

u dum ass i didnt say mexicans where gonna do that


and i said he was deported and he was from columbian

Crazy Hades 03-29-06 06:50 PM

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so lets say they close the border from mexicans they can still attack us
through canada


....So, let's say they close the border so mexicans can't get through, but they can still attack us through Canada...learn how to phrase your shit properly before you start calling anyone a dumbass. You mean, Canadians can attack us through Canada? Except for the fact a shit load more hispanics migrate illegaly into the US than Canadians? Yeah bro...I'm a dumbass.

Magic5 03-29-06 07:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by locknes
ill put in lamens terms when the irish came over to america
they commited mad crimes so what im sayin for your simple mind is
that any of course there are gonna be mexicans who commit crimes
but not all of them are gonna
if you believe that you are racist.


And let me put this in lamen's terms for you; this post does not make sense. .

Quote:
Originally Posted by locknes
you are so racist
have help out this country there are always gonna be people from a race that commit crimes


You just said, "You are racist have helped out this country there are always going to be crime." Are you that fucking retarded to where you think that makes sense?

I understand people of races committ crimes. . when did I or anybody else in this thread say otherwise? So. . now you make no sense and your posts are irrelevant. You're on a roll.

Magic5 03-29-06 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by locknes
that is called being racist because you guys are only going against only the mexicans im not against what you are sayin i agree but i think we should do it against the canadians to


Man, the ratio of Mexican illegal immigrants to Canadian illegal immigrants is SO separated that it's pointless even talking about the Canadian immigrants. I'd guess that Canadian ILLEGAL immigrants build up less then 3% of the United State's population. Then, I look at the state that I live in. . and see how in about 3-5 years it's estimated that Mexican illegal immigrants are going to be the majority of the people. That's not being racist, my friend. I have no problem with ANYBODY of ANY race who comes to this country legally. . pays taxes, etc. just like everybody else. My problem lies with the illegal ones. Fuck all this "Well, they just want a better life." Come here legally and enjoy your better life. Come here illegally and we got a fucking problem.

locknes 03-29-06 07:49 PM

what im tryin to say is regardless of if there is more mexicanscome in i say we close both borders

locknes 03-29-06 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Hades
....So, let's say they close the border so mexicans can't get through, but they can still attack us through Canada...learn how to phrase your shit properly before you start calling anyone a dumbass. You mean, Canadians can attack us through Canada? Except for the fact a shit load more hispanics migrate illegaly into the US than Canadians? Yeah bro...I'm a dumbass.

thats like having a persons left hand is in a cast
and sayin they cant hit you with there right hand.


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