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locknes 04-08-06 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by chronix
The south got a couple heads who are actually pretty good...What makes the south look bad are the ones that are getting the majority of the spins. Those people are garbage. But that's what it's like for all coasts in hip hop. In newyrok, 50 getting the most spins n' stuff, but he's garbage compared to other people from the east coast. So regardless of which coast is on top, mainstream music won't be getting much better.

trust me there is a big difference between 50 cent and that southern bullshit
50cent is just bad but that south shit is total crap

TeamOne 04-08-06 04:50 PM

lmao@ chronix sayin like the same shit as me before i became racist

Sean Gunner 04-08-06 05:10 PM

They may suck, but they are better than most of the people in this thread.

TeamOne 04-08-06 05:24 PM

*is not one of those people*

La Cosa Nostra 04-09-06 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 9th
*EDIT* this post might've made someone cry, so never mind.

If it was directed at me... I think you'd have a pretty hard time pissing me off with a post dude...

Should just say what you were gonna say...

Blay'all 04-09-06 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Ay hold up................... ^Did this guy just try and say the south is on that real lyricism tip?

What kind of shit have you been smoking......

aight, listen man

you dont live in the South... there are lyricists everywhere, and im just sayin the underground cats, including the ones i know, are hungry as hell around here now, and they're coming up... its just that MOST of the mainstream cats from the South are on this gettin rich tip

La Cosa Nostra 04-09-06 04:38 AM

Dude theres real lyricists everywhere... Real lyricists almost never go with the status quo..

But the overall style comming out of the south is not on that lyricism tip..

The style comming out of new york in on that lyricism tip (for the most part)... The style comming out of the west is like more laid back gangsta music with ill beats...

Shit in the south is head banging dumbass crunk music... Which is a fad......

Ysdat 04-09-06 04:40 AM

Im as south as they get, south of earth:(

Blay'all 04-09-06 07:12 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Dude theres real lyricists everywhere... Real lyricists almost never go with the status quo..

But the overall style comming out of the south is not on that lyricism tip..

The style comming out of new york in on that lyricism tip (for the most part)... The style comming out of the west is like more laid back gangsta music with ill beats...

Shit in the south is head banging dumbass crunk music... Which is a fad......

wow, you were just so narrow minded and wrong

headbangin crunk... okay, so i guess Texas isnt a part of the South
and, you are talking about a select FEW artists from the South that you might hear on the radio, especially in another country... i'm just saying, i dont pass any judgement on Australian cats, because i realize i dont know whats REALLY coming out of that region right now...

PS - when i said "there are lyricists everywhere," i was saying exactly what you came back and used to argue your point... there isnt a single region anywhere, including the south, where there arent hungry ass lyrical emcees trynna come up

La Cosa Nostra 04-09-06 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by BL4Y
wow, you were just so narrow minded and wrong

headbangin crunk... okay, so i guess Texas isnt a part of the South
and, you are talking about a select FEW artists from the South that you might hear on the radio, especially in another country... i'm just saying, i dont pass any judgement on Australian cats, because i realize i dont know whats REALLY coming out of that region right now...

PS - when i said "there are lyricists everywhere," i was saying exactly what you came back and used to argue your point... there isnt a single region anywhere, including the south, where there arent hungry ass lyrical emcees trynna come up

Negative..
How bout you just miss my point compleatly then try and tell me I'm wrong..

Let me spell it out a bit clearer..

When you think of an area (such as the south, east side, west side) you think of a specific overall average style that the area most commonly brings.

Ofcourse that area will be packed with people who dont fit the profile. But the main people getting exposure comming out of that area are the ones who put the steriotypes in place..

So whether I have local knowledge of your underground scenes or not is compleatly beside the point.. Because the cats that are on the radio from the south, are mainly headbanging crunk bullshit.. DEFINATLY not any underground heavy lyricism get ups..

C'mon man.. It was pretty clear in the first post what I was saying.. I hope your not gonna need me to explain the shit again....

Nynth Degree 04-09-06 01:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
If it was directed at me... I think you'd have a pretty hard time pissing me off with a post dude...

Should just say what you were gonna say...

Ok, if it's attention you want...

*EDIT* This post would've mentioned Nostradamus. :rolleyes:

Blay'all 04-09-06 05:41 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Negative..
How bout you just miss my point compleatly then try and tell me I'm wrong..

Let me spell it out a bit clearer..

When you think of an area (such as the south, east side, west side) you think of a specific overall average style that the area most commonly brings.

Ofcourse that area will be packed with people who dont fit the profile. But the main people getting exposure comming out of that area are the ones who put the steriotypes in place..

So whether I have local knowledge of your underground scenes or not is compleatly beside the point.. Because the cats that are on the radio from the south, are mainly headbanging crunk bullshit.. DEFINATLY not any underground heavy lyricism get ups..

C'mon man.. It was pretty clear in the first post what I was saying.. I hope your not gonna need me to explain the shit again....

okay, just stop, once and for all, acting like you are above everybody, or anybody else on this site... "i hope you dont need me to explain myself again"... man get off your internet nerd high-horse, you arent cool.

now, the mainstream artists from EVERY region are overall shitty, 50 isnt from the South, Ja isnt from the South, so i dont see what your point is... if your point is that Southern mainstream artists have hotter beats than the North or the West and a more upbeat style, okay... that isnt a bad thing

the point is, this thread says "Hip-hop in the South is a fad" and thats speaking on the whole South and isnt true...

Drastic 04-09-06 05:49 PM

Gottah stick wit tha south.....................N ew York aint takin shit back. I mean whose gon step to tha plate to take tha game back???? JAY-Z RETIRED!!!!!!!!!!

Drastic 04-09-06 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BL4Y
okay, just stop, once and for all, acting like you are above everybody, or anybody else on this site... "i hope you dont need me to explain myself again"... man get off your internet nerd high-horse, you arent cool.

now, the mainstream artists from EVERY region are overall shitty, 50 isnt from the South, Ja isnt from the South, so i dont see what your point is... if your point is that Southern mainstream artists have hotter beats than the North or the West and a more upbeat style, okay... that isnt a bad thing

the point is, this thread says "Hip-hop in the South is a fad" and thats speaking on the whole South and isnt true...




AGREED^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

locknes 04-09-06 08:16 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Drastic
Gottah stick wit tha south.....................N ew York aint takin shit back. I mean whose gon step to tha plate to take tha game back???? JAY-Z RETIRED!!!!!!!!!!

Raekwon ONLY BUILT 4 CUBAN LINK II . thats album of the year

p4ntzistheish 04-09-06 10:03 PM

I think the original point of this thread was that crunk is big now and crunk = South so the South is big now. But crunk is dying and this 'hyphy' shit is slowly takin over (Even as we speak) soon everyone will be 'hyphy' and the South will be back to nothing. I'm from Jersey so believe I know what it's like to get shat on by NY considering some people there don't know this fuckin state exists lol. But right now the South as a whole is putting out nothing but crunk, and the fad is moving on. Name a mainstream artist from the South that isn't making people bang their heads into walls and jump around. Whereas when you hear West Coast you think of laid back, car hoppin rodon music. And of course NY has the lyricism and gritty shit. It's a culture. The US is split in terms of culture, which is why rap won't die because every 'section' has it's own style that will get some play at some point. Te South's turn is over and looks like 'Hyphy' is next in line.

La Cosa Nostra 04-10-06 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by BL4Y
okay, just stop, once and for all, acting like you are above everybody, or anybody else on this site... "i hope you dont need me to explain myself again"... man get off your internet nerd high-horse, you arent cool.

now, the mainstream artists from EVERY region are overall shitty, 50 isnt from the South, Ja isnt from the South, so i dont see what your point is... if your point is that Southern mainstream artists have hotter beats than the North or the West and a more upbeat style, okay... that isnt a bad thing

the point is, this thread says "Hip-hop in the South is a fad" and thats speaking on the whole South and isnt true...

Well for starters... Thinking I'm better than everyone else, and being on a high horse dont even come into it when some kid is trying to say I'm wrong then blaitantly making stupid naieve mistakes in his judgement...

Heres a newsflash.. Does 50 Cent make head banging crunk music? No.

Does Ja Rule make head banging crunk music? No.

Is there a wutang, mobb deep, Nas, Jay Z, Biggie Smalls, Oldschool Tupac.. Thats getting mass international recognition from the south? No.

The overall style comming out of the south is headbanging crunk music.. Your not even denying that anymore.. Your just getting embarrased that your mainstream cats that are getting all the recognition are dickheads and trying to tell me theres crappy mainstream artists everywhere..

Like............duh....

The main style comming out of the south is a fad... It may last a few years to come, but it will eventually die off. Just like big ass 80's love ballads and synthesisor funk style shit... It usually lasts through one decade and then people forget about it..

Real lyricists in the south will live on... Because they dont follow the trend.. I'm not speaking on them..

But your just getting your back up and letting your emotions controll your argument...

And fuck I didnt feel like having to explain that to your dumbass again...

OrEo da cookie 04-10-06 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Well for starters... Thinking I'm better than everyone else, and being on a high horse dont even come into it when some kid is trying to say I'm wrong then blaitantly making stupid naieve mistakes in his judgement...

Heres a newsflash.. Does 50 Cent make head banging crunk music? No.

Does Ja Rule make head banging crunk music? No.

Is there a wutang, mobb deep, Nas, Jay Z, Biggie Smalls, Oldschool Tupac.. Thats getting mass international recognition from the south? No.

The overall style comming out of the south is headbanging crunk music.. Your not even denying that anymore.. Your just getting embarrased that your mainstream cats that are getting all the recognition are dickheads and trying to tell me theres crappy mainstream artists everywhere..

Like............duh....

The main style comming out of the south is a fad... It may last a few years to come, but it will eventually die off. Just like big ass 80's love ballads and synthesisor funk style shit... It usually lasts through one decade and then people forget about it..

Real lyricists in the south will live on... Because they dont follow the trend.. I'm not speaking on them..

But your just getting your back up and letting your emotions controll your argument...

And fuck I didnt feel like having to explain that to your dumbass again...


man i use to enjoy readin your shit but you aint even from here..so basically you hear what we choose to send to you country MATE..i mean for real..the south midwest east west...we all got head bangers..we got lyricists..duh...but becuz the south does crunk harder thats them...hyphy is a movement but at least its something..shit the true lyrists could make a movement but who says that wont die in a decade..and naming rappers that aint crunk did not make your piont valid..we all can name rappers that aint crunk or making them kinda hits..duh...

Past Tense 04-10-06 01:45 AM

imo no ones running the rap 'game' even the second word in that basiclly describes it...its just a GAME...simple and plain

Blay'all 04-10-06 03:21 AM

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Originally Posted by oreo
man i use to enjoy readin your shit but you aint even from here..so basically you hear what we choose to send to you country MATE..i mean for real..the south midwest east west...we all got head bangers..we got lyricists..duh...but becuz the south does crunk harder thats them...hyphy is a movement but at least its something..shit the true lyrists could make a movement but who says that wont die in a decade..and naming rappers that aint crunk did not make your piont valid..we all can name rappers that aint crunk or making them kinda hits..duh...

amen.

and PS - Nos, your argument against being on a high horse and acting like you're above everybody else with your gay ass closers didnt even make sense... "it dont even come into it..." then you went on with more of your high horse "these kids are dumb" shit that you use when you have no substance to an argument... AND, all you've done is repeated the shit i've said this whole argument and acted like you're making points... my whole point of my last post was that 50 and Ja make shitty music but its NOT crunk headbanging shit, so my whole point was that all you are arguing against is putting a hot beat behind a song? but its okay to put out shitty music as long as it doesnt at least sound good, which makes it "head-banging crunk"???

La Cosa Nostra 04-10-06 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by the name thief
man i use to enjoy readin your shit but you aint even from here..so basically you hear what we choose to send to you country MATE..i mean for real..the south midwest east west...we all got head bangers..we got lyricists..duh...but becuz the south does crunk harder thats them...hyphy is a movement but at least its something..shit the true lyrists could make a movement but who says that wont die in a decade..and naming rappers that aint crunk did not make your piont valid..we all can name rappers that aint crunk or making them kinda hits..duh...

Dude what ARE you trying to say..

"Ohh you cant talk about our local scene cause your not from here"..

Read my post.. I have said nothing about your local scene.. I have been talking about the main styles of music comming out of your scene as percieved by people OUTSIDE of where you live..

What the fuck is with you people... You hear something that you think is negative.. And you compleatly disreguard everything said and get all pissy about it...

I dont NEED to know jack shit about your scene, because
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Originally Posted by Past Tense
you hear what we choose to send to you country MATE

I'm talking EXACTLY about what is sent to my country MATE...

I feel like saying some real derrogatory things about your intelligence here... But ofcourse Blay would come back saying I'm just on a high horse and think I'm better than everyone because you guys consistantly talk without understanding what is being said...

Blay'all 04-10-06 03:30 AM

^ ever thought we dont "understand" what you say because it doesnt make any sense?

La Cosa Nostra 04-10-06 03:37 AM

No. Because it makes perfect sense.

Blay'all 04-10-06 03:42 AM

you missed one of my posts to respond to :shocked:

La Cosa Nostra 04-10-06 03:55 AM

Yeah.. Your saying my argument has no substance...:rolleyes:

Heres a re-cap of whats been said...(remember this has been going on before you got into the argument)

"cats from the south -- NAHHH MAN hip hop in the south is NOT a fad!!!, its gonna be runnin shit 4EVAAA!!"

"me -- Whats comming out of the south that were hearing on the radio is mainly headbanging crunk shit........THATS a fad.....It'll last for a few years and then fade out"

"Blay enters -- Hip hop from the south will NEVER stop.. We got cats commin out with that mad heavy lyricism shit!!"

"Me -- Did this guy just say the south was on that heavy lyricism tip? What the fuck have you been smoking....."

"blay -- Maan WTF would YOU know!! You aint from the south!!"

"Me -- No, but I hear whats mainly comming out of the south. The stuff thats getting mad exposure and is steriotyping the main style of music comming out of the south.. And its head banging crunk bullshit... New york cats main styles are usually the lyricism shit, westside is more laid back gangsta styles with mad beats, the south is mainly headbanging crunk shit"

'blay -- YEAH BUT MAN!! THE UnDeRRgrOunD scene has mad lyrical cats in it"

"Me -- And am I fucken talking about the underground you twot?"

"blay -- OHHHH MAN YOUR JUST ON A HIGH HORSE LIEK OMG DUDE YOU JUS THINK YOUR BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE JUS SHUT THE FUCK UP!! blah blah blah"

"Me -- Explains everything again"

"You -- Talks more crap about how I'm supposidly wrong"

"Me -- Explains everything again"

"Past tense -- Talks more crap saying I'm wrong"

"Me -- Explains everything again"

"blay -- Says theres no base to my argument"



............And you wonder why I think your an idiot...

La Cosa Nostra 04-10-06 04:00 AM

And by the way... We all know YOUR idea of mad lyricism is on par with what DIPSET put out..

So that really says a lot about your opinions straight up.

~Babylon~ 04-10-06 04:04 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
"Me -- Did this guy just say the south was on that heavy lyricism tip? What the fuck have you been smoking..."




..................................LMAO :laugh2:

Blay'all 04-10-06 10:48 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Yeah.. Your saying my argument has no substance...:rolleyes:

Heres a re-cap of whats been said...(remember this has been going on before you got into the argument)

"cats from the south -- NAHHH MAN hip hop in the south is NOT a fad!!!, its gonna be runnin shit 4EVAAA!!"

"me -- Whats comming out of the south that were hearing on the radio is mainly headbanging crunk shit........THATS a fad.....It'll last for a few years and then fade out"

"Blay enters -- Hip hop from the south will NEVER stop.. We got cats commin out with that mad heavy lyricism shit!!"

"Me -- Did this guy just say the south was on that heavy lyricism tip? What the fuck have you been smoking....."

"blay -- Maan WTF would YOU know!! You aint from the south!!"

"Me -- No, but I hear whats mainly comming out of the south. The stuff thats getting mad exposure and is steriotyping the main style of music comming out of the south.. And its head banging crunk bullshit... New york cats main styles are usually the lyricism shit, westside is more laid back gangsta styles with mad beats, the south is mainly headbanging crunk shit"

'blay -- YEAH BUT MAN!! THE UnDeRRgrOunD scene has mad lyrical cats in it"

"Me -- And am I fucken talking about the underground you twot?"

"blay -- OHHHH MAN YOUR JUST ON A HIGH HORSE LIEK OMG DUDE YOU JUS THINK YOUR BETTER THAN EVERYONE ELSE JUS SHUT THE FUCK UP!! blah blah blah"

"Me -- Explains everything again"

"You -- Talks more crap about how I'm supposidly wrong"

"Me -- Explains everything again"

"Past tense -- Talks more crap saying I'm wrong"

"Me -- Explains everything again"

"blay -- Says theres no base to my argument"



............And you wonder why I think your an idiot...

once again, no substance to his argument so he has to resort making fun of my typing (when i never even typed anything like that)

and we're supposed to listen to anything you say?

PS - i dont listen to any of the Dipset YOU know


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