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Tha Q. 05-30-06 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by EL Rey
I see what your saying, but the war that were in right now is in the white house, government, war in iraq is just another way for bushs funds to stack,
911, twin towers, you really believe that it was the plans that knock them down?



Yea bro...it was the planes that knocked them down. The steel supports buckled, and then the buildings pancaked.


I think it's disrespectful to the victims to use rhetoric to describe the horrific events surrounding the destruction of those towers. Over 2000 people died bro.



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Tha Q. 05-30-06 08:19 PM

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Originally Posted by JPoll
good conversation starter q...

i'm not against all wars.

and to your question about the guy breaking into my house, i'd grad a bat and teach him a lesson.

their are always going to be wars, its human nature.

q, if push came to shove, would you fight for your country? against iran/n.korea?



Yea...sometimes, war is necessary...Cuz, this bull crap that people say, "We need to stop provoking the terrorists" is asinine. The world could be "perfect" and there would always be someone who disagrees and then fights against it. YOu can't control how people think.

And, as for fighting for my country, I almost did after 9/11. It isn't God's will for me though, or else I'd be doing it.

But, I would have a hard time dying for something I didn't believe in.

JPoll 05-30-06 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.

But, I would have a hard time dying for something I didn't believe in.


no doubt.

i'd like to think i'd fight for canada, can't really be sure until it happens though...

another question for you...would you fight for your religion? obviously it would be in the past...but would you?

my buddy went to israel to join the army...

i personally don't believe in religion, but if i held something that highly i'd die for it...

Tha Q. 05-30-06 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by EL Rey
I think you need to re think what really happend that day...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...059923762628848



BRO...pls don't insult my intelligence...The towers don't exist anymore...You could see the fire belting from the structure...They were hit by planes...Video shows that, and eye witnesses confirm it. The science of a building collapse isn't complicated...

The design of the building itself is what caused it to collapse...There were flaws in the overall structure.

Pls don't come at me with some "aliens destroyed the towers" bull crap.

Are you trying to tell me that planes did NOT fly into those buildings?





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Tha Q. 05-30-06 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by JPoll
no doubt.

i'd like to think i'd fight for canada, can't really be sure until it happens though...

another question for you...would you fight for your religion? obviously it would be in the past...but would you?

my buddy went to israel to join the army...

i personally don't believe in religion, but if i held something that highly i'd die for it...


It's easy to say, "God, I'll die for you" when you aren't facing death. The early Christians were burned alive, buried alive, tortured, hanged, beheaded, crucified, and a lot worse--if you can imagine. Before Jesus was betrayed, Peter said, "Lord, I'll go with you whereever you go, even unto death." Jesus then reminded Peter that he'd deny him at least 3 times that very night. Well, I feel like I'd die for God. My faith is strong in that area. I don't fear man in that area. I feel that someone who is out to do me harm should fear me because GOd is on my side. But, to be honest, if someone put a gun to my head and asked me if I was a Christian, and said I'd die if I said yes, I don't know what my natural reaction would be. On the other hand, I might stand up and be bold for God and be willing to die.






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Tha Q. 05-30-06 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by EL Rey
what are you talking about? aliens? If you don't watch the video youll never know what it's about.



Just answer this question. Are you trying to suggest that planes DIDN'T hit those towers?

-TeamOne- 05-30-06 08:42 PM

no plane hit the pentagon............

JPoll 05-30-06 08:43 PM

yeah it did............................................... .......a plane hit the pentagon dude

maybe not actually, thats what the media told me.

Tha Q. 05-30-06 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by -TeamOne-
no plane hit the pentagon............



O lawd...here comes this conspiracy


Recently released footage show a plane hitting the pentagon...

And, suggesting one didn't is disrespectful to the people who died on that plane that day.

There was this little girl who won a contest with the national geographic society who was to fly to CA that day on the plane that hit the pentagon. It was her first flight ever.

She's dead. She went to a local school. If no plane hit, where is she? Where did her body go?

Stop the madness people.

Tha Q. 05-30-06 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by EL Rey
I know..................



^^That's asinine bro...complete and utter poppycock.


Again, this little black girl from DC who went to a local elementary school was on that plane because she won a contest with the National Geographic Society.


That plane hit the pentagon...

If you say it didn't...
Where is she and all those people bro?


Pls. tell me that.

Better yet, look her father in the eyes and tell him that.

Tha Q. 05-30-06 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by EL Rey
LOL, how long have you been living on earth I think you forgot how corrupt the government can be, and one thing that is for sure 100% the plane did not hit the Pen.



The girl is dead bro. The people on that flight died. Why can't you respect that? Why make them pawns in your conspiracy theories?


It doesn't surprise me. There are people who picket funerals to promote their own agenda. I just think it's disgusting though.



PS...There were people who were driving on I 395 that day who confirm they saw that plane crash into the Pentagon.









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Adam 05-30-06 09:09 PM

If you want peace, prepare for war.

Valerie 05-30-06 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Abstruse
If you want peace, prepare for war.

yup .

Tha Q. 05-30-06 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by EL Rey
For all you know the people who confirm that information is lying, yea that little girl probably is dead, but not from a plane crash, why did the FBI take away the footage that was taken on that day by other buildings that took it? why wont they show it? what are they trying to hide? I mean if a plane did hit the pentagon why not just show the film? proof? none... just like flight 93, wheres the reck from the crash? no bodies found? how so...? theres no way it just turned into dust my friend.



People lying? These are normal every day, hard working/regular Americans who drive down that street just like ME and everyone else bro...

Stop...pls...Cuz you're not making sense...

There's wreckage from flight 93. And, depending on how fast the plan was going, that'd determine how much wreckage could exist once it hit. And, there is footage of the plane hitting the pentagon.


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Tha Q. 05-30-06 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by EL Rey
I saw that footage that hit the pentagon and there was no plane....
you keep telling me to stop the lies but your not giving me proof...




I'm telling you that you're being sensational. How so? If the footage at the Pentagon was as clear as the WTC, you'd just imply that it was doctored up. The fact remains that people saw that plane crash at the pentagon and the gov. confirms it. Dozens of people are now dead as a result of it.



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Tha Q. 05-30-06 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMPIN aint easy
dam where to start

there was not flaws that caused it too crash each tower was DESIGNED to take the hit of 2 commercial jets hitting each tower

fire DID NOT destroy the steel supports for sum1 so into science look into the science of steel, the fire burning within the towers where not hot enough to even weaken the structure neve mind weaken it, do u really think a fire that was burnin for like 2 hours at a heat that wasnt enough HALF hot enough to weaken the steel colums really made them collapse???? and even if it was that wud only explain the collapse of the top of the towers, there was no fire on the like 90 other floors below y the hell wud they collapse??? oh and once again if the fire was hot enough to melt steal then y was there dozens of people alive on those floors at the windows????

nobody is claiming that planes did not hit the towers wat we are claiming is that it is no way possible that they cud collapse the entire building





Bro...you come in here all gung ho but don't even know the full story. Fire was the cause of the steel supports collapsing because much of the fire proofing was stripped off the beams supporting the floors directly hit by the planes. Those plane flew into the Trade Centers at almost the speed of SOUND. once they hit, they shred and disintegrated, much of which tore off the fire proofing on the steel supports on those floors. The building pancaked once those top floors collapsed. It's quite possible and proven. How? IT HAPPENED!

Tha Q. 05-30-06 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMPIN aint easy
there is jsut as many people if not more who where their that say it wasnt a plane aswell, there is live video footage of the towers been hit by the first plane and there is a women screaming thats not an american airlines flight but of course that video was never shown on the newz

oh and there is tonnes of ex military pilots that say it was impossible for it to hit the towers the way it did that the only thing possible of that is a remote controlled missile

ffs the plane that was ment to hit the pentagon its imposssible for it too fit into the whole left, the lawn in front of it is perfectly fine go look at pictures of it, n the only plane wreckage found was a engine jet that cudnt even fit a boeing and was like a quarter the size of a real boeing engine jet



Once again, you just contradicted yourself. You said, "No one is saying a plane didn't hit." Now, you're saying "It was a missile that hit."


^^So, are you suggesting that my own two eyes are playing tricks on me? Those aren't PLANES flying into the WTC?

Bro...You all are bent on wreckage...The two planes that hit the WTC were travelling in excess of 500 MPH. At those speeds, if they hit a solid structure, there won't be much, if any, wreckage.

Tha Q. 05-30-06 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMPIN aint easy
wat are you talkin about even if the fire proofing as stripped off that still does not answer my questions please go bk and answer eeach of them fire proofing has nuthing to do wit how hot it has 2 be to melt steel

and no its impossible for the tower to collapse how it did from top too bottom all the colums wud hav had to be weakened all the way down for it too happen

man go look at the richter scale reports form that day from the organisation that measures new yorks quake activities which im sure is columbia university, when the planes hit it was barely noticed by the scale but just before(mili seconds) the towers collapsed there was a huge measure measured on it...wat cud possibly hav caused that......i wonder

come on man look at everythin that day and it is ovious that explosives brought down the towers that day



^^No...what's obvious is that

A) Two planes hit the WTC
B) It collapsed


Engineers have been studyin this for 5 years now bro...The temperature inside the WTC was into the THOUSANDS of degrees...THat jet fuel is no joke...The structure was already compromised from a PLANE flying into it. Then, the heat just exacerbated that. The tower came down from the force of the upper floors collapsing in on themselves...

In fact, there was so much force and energy, that it disintegrated much of the bodies/material inside the trade centers themselves.


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Tha Q. 05-30-06 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMPIN aint easy
of course jet fuel is no joke but jet fuel also does not burn anywhere near hot enough to melt metal, for sum1 who claims science so much u are ignoring the scientific facts

and once again even if your theory is right only the top of the tower wud hav collapsed falling side ways away fromt he tower not directly down and collapsing the rest thats bullshit



I'm not ignoring it...The Tower Pancaked...

It's design made it impossible to fall over like u would normally imagine a building falling down.


The heat in there was hot enough to WEAKEN that steel bro. THen, the structure gave...There's documentaries that explain the infrastructure of the WTF and how that caused it to collapse.




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Tha Q. 05-30-06 10:11 PM

^^^Buildin was designed to withstand a smaller plane travelling at slower speeds hitting it.



And, many people were literally blown out the building after the planes hit. People were in floors above and below the floors hit directly.

Tha Q. 05-30-06 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMPIN aint easy
i give up your ignoring practically everythin ive said if u want to stay ignorant go ahead




Why insult me bro? I'm answering your points. The floors that were hit directly, there couldn't have been people directly on them because the impact itself would have disintegrated anything there...and it did. Steel can be treated to be shaped at anywhere from 1500-3000 degrees Fahrenheit...which was around the temperature of the fuel. The steel doesn't have to melt to be weakened.


When the 1st plane hit the north tower, it broke into THOUSANDS of fragments, which knocked out many of the support towers of the buildings. ON top of that, the fire proofing was stripped off the steel beams.

The columns started collapsing from the top, and gravity pulled the rest down in a pancake fashion.

Some experts believe that if the fire proofing had remained, the towers probably would not have collapsed.

Oh...and :gfy: you too. I didn't call u an idiot for believing hamfisted theories.



PS...I find you "conspiracy" people comical...You're willing to believe ELABORATE plots and schemes. But, you refuse to believe that sometimes the simplest explanation is the right one?

Get outta here.

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Mentor 05-30-06 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
attack on the white house is highly improbable

They used to allow people to drive past the white house until someone did a drive by shooting on it. Now, they have Jersey Barriers preventing people from driving down that stretch of Pennsylvania Avenue. However, you can still stand at the fence of the white house.

The military has F16s on ready at all times around the capitol now...You can't get a thousand yards over the White house before they either "escort" you out of that airspace, or COERCE you from it.



:shoot:



and they said u couldnt hijack a plane too :bored:

Tha Q. 05-31-06 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Mentor
and they said u couldnt hijack a plane too :bored:



who said that? People have been hijacking planes since forever ago...even before 9/11.











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Mentor 05-31-06 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Tha Q.
who said that? People have been hijacking planes since forever ago...even before 9/11.











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and people been sayin that too :bored:

Tha Q. 05-31-06 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Mentor
and people been sayin that too :bored:




I'm not following your logic.













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