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Konvict_NYC 06-18-06 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mimesis
Lmao. I'm never going to respect somebody who stays poor their whole life and then dies just as broke as when they started. Join the fucking military if you can't do anything else. You make it sound like there's no way out.


The millitary aint no place for a black person to quote Boyz n Tha Hood...because youre selling yourself to a government that despises you and wants you out

Konvict_NYC 06-18-06 07:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
This is dumb shit man...

Every race has rich people and poor people.. Fuck outta here talking like black people in america are the only ones who get stuck living in bad conditions.. THAT, is ignorance..

You aint got it any worse than the next race.....


Yo that's stupid, theres white people in poverty..yes but on a HUGE differnent ratio favouring them to colored people in poverty

La Cosa Nostra 06-18-06 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Konvict_NYC
Yo that's stupid, theres white people in poverty..yes but on a HUGE differnent ratio favouring them to colored people in poverty

Actually theres not...

Its just that black people are a minority..

White people have about the same based on numbers alone....

Konvict_NYC 06-18-06 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Actually theres not...

Its just that black people are a minority..

White people have about the same based on numbers alone....


Black people everywhere are not a minority, Africa is full of poverty....

WhoAmI 06-18-06 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by I.G.
it's up to the individuals to come out of the situation they are in... i'm the black sheep of my family... my mom did drugs... my dad was an alcoholic... i wanted more... i made the honor roll in school.. joined the military... did some college... had a family.... bought a house and two cars... i had a vision of what i wanted... once you have a vision you need a plan.... once you have a plan you need to execute... once you execute the plan you need to stay focused and keep ya eyes on the prize... you do that and ya get results... nothing is impossible if you want it bad enough.... the race factor is a cop out.. and yes, i'm black... and yes i still have goals i want to accomplish... and yes ya better believe omma make it happen...

on one hand i can understand where ya coming from by saying the country is controlled by "the man".. but at the same time if you ain't gon try and do sumn to remedy the situation the you have no reason to be mad... are you attending boycotts?... are you writing to your congressman?... are you pursuing a higher education? are you forming groups in your community to get people off they asses and do sumn about the crime in the neighborhoods you live in?... if not then all you doing is waiting for the same dude you complaining about to come clean ya shyt up for you...

start in your own backyard.... what good is a list of complaints/problems if you ain't got any possible solutions?


IG is officially my adopted pops lol

iWitness 06-18-06 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by I.G.
it's up to the individuals to come out of the situation they are in... i'm the black sheep of my family... my mom did drugs... my dad was an alcoholic... i wanted more... i made the honor roll in school.. joined the military... did some college... had a family.... bought a house and two cars... i had a vision of what i wanted... once you have a vision you need a plan.... once you have a plan you need to execute... once you execute the plan you need to stay focused and keep ya eyes on the prize... you do that and ya get results... nothing is impossible if you want it bad enough.... the race factor is a cop out.. and yes, i'm black... and yes i still have goals i want to accomplish... and yes ya better believe omma make it happen...

on one hand i can understand where ya coming from by saying the country is controlled by "the man".. but at the same time if you ain't gon try and do sumn to remedy the situation the you have no reason to be mad... are you attending boycotts?... are you writing to your congressman?... are you pursuing a higher education? are you forming groups in your community to get people off they asses and do sumn about the crime in the neighborhoods you live in?... if not then all you doing is waiting for the same dude you complaining about to come clean ya shyt up for you...

start in your own backyard.... what good is a list of complaints/problems if you ain't got any possible solutions?



:thumbup:
word......

Young Kidd (LM) 06-18-06 09:11 AM

^ Co-Sign That...lol...agree with I.G

La Cosa Nostra 06-18-06 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Konvict_NYC
Black people everywhere are not a minority, Africa is full of poverty....

Russia's full of poverty....

Shear Kaughn 06-18-06 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
YO, you keep on preaching like that...


Because there are literally thousands of rich black people out there tonight putting food on the table paid for with their good jobs...

Not everyone in your race is struggling pal... Just like 'the white man' is a patheticxally stupid generalisation considering not all white people are in power.



did you read anything that i wrote? seriously did you? black people AS A WHOLE have a harder time providing for themselves in this country. and that is due to the views and perspecitves from my countries history. not every ppportunity and open door given to a white person will be given to a black person for the better. so black people have to strive even harder to come up out their situation. you obviously have a lot of learning to do about the United States there son. and no not all white men are in power. but in my countries history it has been that way FOR A LONG TIME. and for the most part. who has always been the president of the united states...oh yea a white man....that may change this next upcoming election, but thats an if.

and one more thing..i'm not generalizing white people here pal. i'm telling you what is the truth. are you even from america? i don't know if you are. but if you was then you wouldn't be making ignorant statments like you are. are you black...more then likely not. so once again.....go take a sociology class on the society of america.....you need it.....so untill you can actually say something that directly represents reality, your just another lost mothafucka with no clue

and one more thing...your little bit about more white people are in poverty then blacks....your right....but what your dumbass isn't right about is the percentage ratio....BIG DIFFERENCE THERE SONNY.....much larger black poverty percentage then white......why is that?..inequality. and don't tell me that they just need to work hard and get out their situation...i'm quite sure most of them are....but did anything ring a bell to you on why a larger percentage of black poverty is even there in the first place?..........read a book bitch

La Cosa Nostra 06-18-06 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Shear Kaughn
did you read anything that i wrote? seriously did you? black people AS A WHOLE have a harder time providing for themselves in this country. and that is due to the views and perspecitves from my countries history. not every ppportunity and open door given to a white person will be given to a black person for the better. so black people have to strive even harder to come up out their situation. you obviously have a lot of learning to do about the United States there son. and no not all white men are in power. but in my countries history it has been that way FOR A LONG TIME. and for the most part. who has always been the president of the united states...oh yea a white man....that may change this next upcoming election, but thats an if.

and one more thing..i'm not generalizing white people here pal. i'm telling you what is the truth. are you even from america? i don't know if you are. but if you was then you wouldn't be making ignorant statments like you are. are you black...more then likely not. so once again.....go take a sociology class on the society of america.....you need it.....so untill you can actually say something that directly represents reality, your just another lost mothafucka with no clue

and one more thing...your little bit about more white people are in poverty then blacks....your right....but what your dumbass isn't right about is the percentage ratio....BIG DIFFERENCE THERE SONNY.....much larger black poverty percentage then white......why is that?..inequality. and don't tell me that they just need to work hard and get out their situation...i'm quite sure most of them are....but did anything ring a bell to you on why a larger percentage of black poverty is even there in the first place?..........read a book bitch

Yeah man, black people fucked up their image through the media...

Go tell someone else about it...

DQ 06-18-06 11:03 AM

Total equality will never be possible. Even if they turn us all purple...

∆ P E X X 06-18-06 01:00 PM

this is fallin on def ears man, it's like describing a completely foreign planet to someone. white people still think the hood is a place where everyone chose their lifestyle, they never fathom that opportunities are scarce in the devils belly. To experience it, they'd have to go to the hood, but they're terrified of that, so they just huddle up on the couch and suck in what ever the TV pumps in their brain. They disconnect from the fact that these are real people put in one hell of a fucked up situation. They forget that throughout all of american history, black people were repeatedly and systematically thrown under the bus that they weren't even allowed to sit at the front of.

Regretfully, the average person just becomes a victim of "The News". Just as it was intended...

KOOL COL-B 06-18-06 01:32 PM

wether u like it or not, tha reason y most black people in america r poor iz cuz of white people. white people made them slaves n treated them like shit, then wen they got "free", they didnt have 2 werk on tha farms or w/e tha slaves had 2 do, but they still werent givin jobs n shit. so they were poor. n thats tha white mans fault. tha people who owned all tha buisinesses were white, n wouldnt give black people jobs, so blacks had no way 2 make money. so they all stayed 2getha poor wich made big poor black communities wich r tha ghettos. n tha ghettos r givin tha shittiest skooling, while tha whites have really good skools n shit. n tha people who puts tha skool shit in tha communities, r tha government, wich iz white people. n fuck talkin bout white people bein poor in russia n shit, thats a whole utha convo, Deph's talkin bout black people in AMERICA.

anywayz, i agree wif Deph 1000000%

n thas werd

Shear Kaughn 06-18-06 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Yeah man, black people fucked up their image through the media...

Go tell someone else about it...


you a dumbass yo......the media fucked it up for black people...not the other way around

Logic The Goonie 06-18-06 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by I.G.
it's up to the individuals to come out of the situation they are in... i'm the black sheep of my family... my mom did drugs... my dad was an alcoholic... i wanted more... i made the honor roll in school.. joined the military... did some college... had a family.... bought a house and two cars... i had a vision of what i wanted... once you have a vision you need a plan.... once you have a plan you need to execute... once you execute the plan you need to stay focused and keep ya eyes on the prize... you do that and ya get results... nothing is impossible if you want it bad enough.... the race factor is a cop out.. and yes, i'm black... and yes i still have goals i want to accomplish... and yes ya better believe omma make it happen...

on one hand i can understand where ya coming from by saying the country is controlled by "the man".. but at the same time if you ain't gon try and do sumn to remedy the situation the you have no reason to be mad... are you attending boycotts?... are you writing to your congressman?... are you pursuing a higher education? are you forming groups in your community to get people off they asses and do sumn about the crime in the neighborhoods you live in?... if not then all you doing is waiting for the same dude you complaining about to come clean ya shyt up for you...

start in your own backyard.... what good is a list of complaints/problems if you ain't got any possible solutions?

We're not talking about one person, we're talking about our group as a whole. You think it's fair that we have to try a billion times harder than a white guy to get to the same place? Do you really think EVERYONE is capable of that? Because in all honestly they're not, that's what's shitty.

M Eazy 06-18-06 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
This is dumb shit man...

Every race has rich people and poor people.. Fuck outta here talking like black people in america are the only ones who get stuck living in bad conditions.. THAT, is ignorance..

You aint got it any worse than the next race.....


Seriously, open up your fucking eyes! You know damn well black people went through the most struggles...I don't care how you put it, and how you feel about it, that shit is true...And what Indeph is speaking is finally some real talk on this site. Black people are looked down on, but I guess you won't admit it because your too blind-eyes to, or you won't admit it because we as black people make fun of the situation, in movies and music and other activities. But that's just a way of not forgetting what we had to go through to gain equal rights in America. Sure, we got our equal rights, but we are still looked down on. Partially our fault...I agree! But NOT ALL THE WAY! :nono:

~SMOKEY~ 06-18-06 07:28 PM

Blah Blah Blah.....

ILL GEE 06-18-06 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Logic.
We're not talking about one person, we're talking about our group as a whole. You think it's fair that we have to try a billion times harder than a white guy to get to the same place? Do you really think EVERYONE is capable of that? Because in all honestly they're not, that's what's shitty.

that's because they are psychologically challenged... they already got it in their heads that they can't do anything...give ya same argument to all the african americans who started out with nothing and pretty much have everything they ever imaained and then some... then see what they gotta say about it... our people defeat themselves with all this negative energy... i'm not saying we don't have to work harder... cuz we do... i'm just saying if you really want something bad enough then stop complaining and do what ya gotta do to get it... legally!... knowledge is power... without that you have nothing... you can give me all the negative scenarios you want... it won't change the fact that most people who complain are usually the same ones who don't wanna help fix the situation... they rather sit on they asses and collect unemployment and come up with scams to get by... use that same energy to get an education and put a REAL plan into action and we'll all be better off... if you really think that people view you a certain way then change their perception of you... show them what you are capable of... get some shyt on paper showing ya accomplishments... get a damn track record... how you gonna defend folks who don't wanna do nothing for themselves? i love my peoples and all but go to any hood and tell me what you see.... kats still on the corner selling dime bags...i was in the army for 6 years.... i guarantee you i can go back to my hood and see the same dudes doing the same shyt from when i left... GUARANTEED... what's that tell you? they coulda used that same energy to get into school, get a job, something other than staying on da block nickle and diming all damn day... until we learn to act on shyt instead of blaming everyone else we will always have these problems... as long as we live up to the stereotypes we will always have these problems... until we learn to view folks as individuals instead of grouping we will always have this problem...

it starts with self... change who you are for the better... then worry about everyone else... the people around you will change as you change... if you stay around negative influences you gonna be a negative person... associate with kats that's really doing sumn and it will rub off on you...

everyone is always crying about being a victim and a product of the environment... change ya immediate environment then... not saying you should just up and move cuz financially a lot of folks can't do that... but mentally you can distance yaself from all the negativity in ya surroundings... even the hood got positive folks in it...

i can go on forever but until you change how you look at things and see that the outcome don't have to be negative, you'll always be the way that you are... man up and do shyt that's gonna get you where you need to go... sacrifice is a hard pill to swallow... and ya deffo ain't gonna get sumn for nothing in the US...

BUT WHATEVER MAN... omma get mine regardless... i got mouths to feed

ILL GEE 06-18-06 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Konvict_NYC
The millitary aint no place for a black person to quote Boyz n Tha Hood...because youre selling yourself to a government that despises you and wants you out

it's all about pimping the system that's been pimping you for years... i ain't nobody's slave boy... i did what i had to do and i got through it... if i woulda done the whole twenty years i'd be set for the rest of my life... the army ain't for everyone but it has helped my life tremendously... same with my rap partner... the good deffo outweighs the bad shyt of the military... in peacetime... but this war sucks ass... and it's not the Army's fault... it's the kat that runs the Army...

Logic The Goonie 06-18-06 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by I.G.
that's because they are psychologically challenged... they already got it in their heads that they can't do anything...give ya same argument to all the african americans who started out with nothing and pretty much have everything they ever imaained and then some... then see what they gotta say about it... our people defeat themselves with all this negative energy... i'm not saying we don't have to work harder... cuz we do... i'm just saying if you really want something bad enough then stop complaining and do what ya gotta do to get it... legally!... knowledge is power... without that you have nothing... you can give me all the negative scenarios you want... it won't change the fact that most people who complain are usually the same ones who don't wanna help fix the situation... they rather sit on they asses and collect unemployment and come up with scams to get by... use that same energy to get an education and put a REAL plan into action and we'll all be better off... if you really think that people view you a certain way then change their perception of you... show them what you are capable of... get some shyt on paper showing ya accomplishments... get a damn track record... how you gonna defend folks who don't wanna do nothing for themselves? i love my peoples and all but go to any hood and tell me what you see.... kats still on the corner selling dime bags...i was in the army for 6 years.... i guarantee you i can go back to my hood and see the same dudes doing the same shyt from when i left... GUARANTEED... what's that tell you? they coulda used that same energy to get into school, get a job, something other than staying on da block nickle and diming all damn day... until we learn to act on shyt instead of blaming everyone else we will always have these problems... as long as we live up to the stereotypes we will always have these problems... until we learn to view folks as individuals instead of grouping we will always have this problem...

it starts with self... change who you are for the better... then worry about everyone else... the people around you will change as you change... if you stay around negative influences you gonna be a negative person... associate with kats that's really doing sumn and it will rub off on you...

everyone is always crying about being a victim and a product of the environment... change ya immediate environment then... not saying you should just up and move cuz financially a lot of folks can't do that... but mentally you can distance yaself from all the negativity in ya surroundings... even the hood got positive folks in it...

i can go on forever but until you change how you look at things and see that the outcome don't have to be negative, you'll always be the way that you are... man up and do shyt that's gonna get you where you need to go... sacrifice is a hard pill to swallow... and ya deffo ain't gonna get sumn for nothing in the US...

BUT WHATEVER MAN... omma get mine regardless... i got mouths to feed

We're not talking about individual efforts here, we're talking about the group. I have my plan and I'm trying my hardest to make it, and if I do, I'm STILL gunna have the same views. Not everyone knows that there is so much you can do and even if they did it's not always something that's good for them. How many career and job counselors do you see in the hood truly trying to make sure the awareness of possibilities is there? Most fucking successful black folks get the fuck away from the hood as soon as possible and just say "Fuck em", kinda like you. =/ THAT'S why the mentality is there, the successful people that people in the hood hear about play ball, rap, or sell drugs, am I wrong? If you think you made a difference because you made it, you're wrong, cuz you're just running away from the situation proud of yourself and not helping shit. I have the utmost respect for people like you but at the same time I fucking HATE people like you for thinking they're setting an example by getting the fuck out of the hood ASAP.

La Cosa Nostra 06-18-06 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Shear Kaughn
you a dumbass yo......the media fucked it up for black people...not the other way around

THAT, my friend..

Is a fucking cop out...

The media doesent make your people to act that way, they just turn it into a commodity because they see that some cats wanna act stupid on cameras and tell everyone how gangsta they are.. So their like.. Cool, how can I make a buck?

This is why I get annoyed in these threads, your all so quick to blame everyone else for your own fuckups.... And your too fucking defencive and emotional to have a proper argument on the shit anyway....

You cats just dont have a grasp on how politics work....

La Cosa Nostra 06-18-06 10:43 PM

And thats not to mention the white cunts who would diss their own race just to be accepted by another one...

I hate people like that.....

Logic The Goonie 06-18-06 10:43 PM

Nos, you're a fucking queer. Shut up.

La Cosa Nostra 06-18-06 10:47 PM

Lmfao @ this naieve mother fucker doing exactly what I said hed do.......

Journal!st 06-18-06 10:51 PM

there's always oppertunities...idk why you complaining!.....


mexicans have the same problem.....
immigrants have the same problem....
indians have the same problem....


japanese, korean, black, hispanic, pacific islander

we all have the same difficulties in life......its just YOU!....you telling yourself your suffering for what?!.....NOTHING YOU DUMB SHIT!...like what MIM said military....DAMN SON... go get a job at burger king!.......hustle the streetz!.....idk Struggle to survive and to stay alive!..

ILL GEE 06-18-06 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Logic.
[B]We're not talking about individual efforts here, we're talking about the group.[/B]*so am I... I was just using my situation as one example out of the hundreds of others that are out there* I have my plan and I'm trying my hardest to make it, and if I do, I'm STILL gunna have the same views. Not everyone knows that there is so much you can do and even if they did it's not always something that's good for them. How many career and job counselors do you see in the hood truly trying to make sure the awareness of possibilities is there? Most fucking successful black folks get the fuck away from the hood as soon as possible and just say "Fuck em", kinda like you. =/ THAT'S why the mentality is there, the successful people that people in the hood hear about play ball, rap, or sell drugs, am I wrong? If you think you made a difference because you made it, you're wrong, cuz you're just running away from the situation proud of yourself and not helping shit. I have the utmost respect for people like you but at the same time I fucking HATE people like you for thinking they're setting an example by getting the fuck out of the hood ASAP.
here we go...
that's where you are wrong... you have no idea what i do outside of RV... all you see is this site... i fought for my COUNTRY.... that = every hood in the UNITED STATES.... #2 .. me and my wife are currently working within the community to get a PAL started for inner city youth... unlike the people you were referring to, my street cred is up to par... i NEVER forget where I come from and I do what I can to HELP... that's the key... you don't even know where I live and you talking about how I left the hood... Atlanta IS the hood! Afew weeks ago we had a shooting right in front of the police station so don't go telling me about i left the hood. I always gave back and try to keep the youth on the right path... I do my part... do yours

Ysdat 06-18-06 11:58 PM

:) .

ILL GEE 06-18-06 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nostradamus
THAT, my friend..

Is a fucking cop out...

The media doesent make your people to act that way, they just turn it into a commodity because they see that some cats wanna act stupid on cameras and tell everyone how gangsta they are.. So their like.. Cool, how can I make a buck?

This is why I get annoyed in these threads, your all so quick to blame everyone else for your own fuckups.... And your too fucking defencive and emotional to have a proper argument on the shit anyway....

You cats just dont have a grasp on how politics work....


it ain't just about money... and no, the media didn't make us act a certain way... but they do twist the perceptions of our people by HOW they display the news and by leaving out a lot of the facts that go along with a story... of course, they intentionally look for all the negative aspects.... but when it's something good who hears about it? No one is tracking my wife down trying to tell the story of how we want PAL started in our neighborhood cuz the kids ain't got shyt to do.... where's the media for shyt like that... but let it get up and running... i betcha they'll find a way to say how we are embezzling money and stealing from the community... that's how the media operates...

La Cosa Nostra 06-19-06 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by I.G.
it ain't just about money... and no, the media didn't make us act a certain way... but they do twist the perceptions of our people by HOW they display the news and by leaving out a lot of the facts that go along with a story... of course, they intentionally look for all the negative aspects.... but when it's something good who hears about it? No one is tracking my wife down trying to tell the story of how we want PAL started in our neighborhood cuz the kids ain't got shyt to do.... where's the media for shyt like that... but let it get up and running... i betcha they'll find a way to say how we are embezzling money and stealing from the community... that's how the media operates...

But thats not their fault..

They do that for everything.... Shock value sells... So you know their gonna perpetuate anything negative...

Logic The Goonie 06-19-06 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by I.G.
here we go...
that's where you are wrong... you have no idea what i do outside of RV... all you see is this site... i fought for my COUNTRY.... that = every hood in the UNITED STATES.... #2 .. me and my wife are currently working within the community to get a PAL started for inner city youth... unlike the people you were referring to, my street cred is up to par... i NEVER forget where I come from and I do what I can to HELP... that's the key... you don't even know where I live and you talking about how I left the hood... Atlanta IS the hood! Afew weeks ago we had a shooting right in front of the police station so don't go telling me about i left the hood. I always gave back and try to keep the youth on the right path... I do my part... do yours

All I know is when you said...
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Originally Posted by I.G.
i guarantee you i can go back to my hood and see the same dudes doing the same shyt from when i left

It came off as "I haven't been there and I sure as hell don't want to go back."

Tell me if I'm wrong for thinking that. -_-

Shear Kaughn 06-19-06 01:08 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
THAT, my friend..

Is a fucking cop out...

The media doesent make your people to act that way, they just turn it into a commodity because they see that some cats wanna act stupid on cameras and tell everyone how gangsta they are.. So their like.. Cool, how can I make a buck?

This is why I get annoyed in these threads, your all so quick to blame everyone else for your own fuckups.... And your too fucking defencive and emotional to have a proper argument on the shit anyway....

You cats just dont have a grasp on how politics work....


man..its whatever man...i don't even want to talk about this shitty topic anymore...damn ecstacy fucked my head up.......

ILL GEE 06-19-06 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Logic.
All I know is when you said...

It came off as "I haven't been there and I sure as hell don't want to go back."

Tell me if I'm wrong for thinking that. -_-
By now everyone should know that I'm from Brooklyn but I now live in ATL... i guess i shoulda put "my OLD hood"... and yes, I have been back since I joined the military and I saw the same shyt i described to you... how a dude gon stay on the corner for over 5 years and not have nothing to show for it?... absolutely NOTHING... and still got the balls to stay on the corner?!!! but "the man" did that to him if ya let him tell it... pffft... this is the shyt that i'm talking about...if kats don't wanna do nothing to fix they situation they got no room to argue or complain....period.

i grind and try and make things better for me and my fam daily... i never said it was easy... and i never eluded to any fact that I just "got mine and left"... nowhere in my posts can ya point that out... all i said was this... if ya want sumn bad enough you'll find a way to get it.. it's all about ya drive and ya commitment... that's it... i was hungry for mine so i went out and got it... and i still ain't done cuz i ain't satisfied... until i'm 100% positive that i can leave sumn for my seeds... sumn tangible that's theirs when i'm gone then omma stay on my hustle

Mad Dog 06-19-06 11:24 AM

I.G has my utter respect now

fact is you can't chose where u were born

but you have the choice with what to do with your life

if a man deals drugs, pimps hoes, joins a gang or does whatever fucked up shit...it's coz they chose to

if a man gets an education however...he also chose that

it's like the saying you can chose your friends but you cant chose your family

it's like that but fact is if you sit here bitching about how bad you have it but don't have the guts to ACTUALLY get out there and speak your mind...your choice...

fact is i don't respect self pity too much you only live once...make the most of it...and if you really are effected by prejeduce that much...then you need help...coz right now the thread starter is puttin prejeduce on my race i don't run shit i'm no higher than the next person black or white...i don't look @ black people as inferior but if they feel i think that and generalise MY race as that...then thats their problem not mine i'm sorry Indeph i'm sorry Logic you feel that way but there are black men/women out there living the high life...and there's white people struggling to make ends meet out there...

jus lose the self pity and do yourself a favour and work to the best of your abilities...it's the ONLY way to prove that you are better than what you feel "the white man" generalises you...

Indeph 06-19-06 12:26 PM

Far fetched stories rofl That's exactly why people don't believe that blacks are being held down. Cause everytiem you here a story about it you don't even believe it. Forget it. We all live in a happy fairy land where races ring around the rosey and everyone is equal.

Indeph 06-19-06 12:56 PM

Rofl You really really missed the point. 1st off for all the people too lazy to actually read my entire post, I've mentioned I KNOW ITS POSSIBLE FOR ANYONE TO COME OUT OF ANY SITUATION. And that robbery shit was merely a metaphore for what happened in america. -_- You're not gonna get it, ever. Just because its possible for someone to get out of a situation doesnt make it any less worse. What about ppl involved in hit and run shit and they "can't" walk. If they worked hard they could learn how to walk, but its still wrong. You're not gonna even TRY to understand this, because you're not black. I know you're gonna say that isnt it, but trust me it is. -_- *awaits a magical response that sets you apart from everyone else I've met*

Indeph 06-19-06 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by PIMPIN aint easy
the only reason uu tihnk we dont understand it if u aint black is cause u think u are a victim much greater than wat u really are like i said it is harder for yous too make it but yous greatly over exadorate it whether your black white red yellow blue watever if blacks really are been held down as much as u say u can point out the facts i dont think facts are biased too color of skin are they??

if u cant point it out its sum pshcological bullshit where u think u are been held down way ore than wat u are



God. STOP STOP STOP STOP with any "exaguration" talk. White people always do this shit. Just because it's REALLY bad you automatically assume its not true. You expect me to come in here and list a bunch of reasons why we're being held down just so you can put your two cents on it? We don't WANT to be pittied or any of that shit, I'm just sick of people claiming we complain over shit like we're using it to justify our unsuccessful living. Read a fuckin history book for god's sake and actually COME to these areas. Not just like driving across it, live here. Seriously, go and see if the world is as equal and simple when you step out a corner over here. See how easy it is when you realise that you need money to make money. The poor gets poorer and the rich get richer. If a white person from the suburbs is a failure in life and drops out of school, he works at a resturaunt lives in an apartment and is pretty much STILL above the ghetto greatly. If a black person from the ghetto drops out of his fucked up school, he's caught in danger, with no jobs around. White people have plenty industrial and commerical jobs around. Whats here in the ghetto? Family owned liquor stores, banks we need a degree to work in, grocery stores. Not to mention the constant danger which people seem to have draumatically underestimated due to music and movies. And not to mention cultural identity. That "psychological" influence you were talking about is there, but not for the white believed "illusion" of oppression. It's the mental belief that has been GIVEN to us not created, that we're the lowest form of civiliation. No matter how rich we get, no matter how smart we are we come in 2nd place because we're black. Our culture was created so we can finally feel as if we can be at the top of the chain for once. I am not a gangsta or a drug dealer. But the neo nazi's marched across my neighborhood, and (lets see if you think this is fake too) they stormed my aunt sandra's house and killed her, my 2 cousins, and uncle marc wasnt home. Some Stones ( a gang) heard the gunshots and killed the nazis. THEY ARE IN JAIL NOW. Theres so much fuckin shit you don't know about, stop thinking telivision is your gateway to our life. You will never get it. Accept it.

Mad Dog 06-19-06 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Indeph
We all live in a happy fairy land where races ring around the rosey and everyone is equal.


we do omg why the fuck did i ever think that racism ever existed :rolleyes:


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