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Magic5 07-05-06 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Blayboy
lol, no, but its about percentages...

numbers dont prove anything when it comes to race... obviously, there are gonna be more whites doing EVERYTHING, including being poor, than minorities, because there are more of them!!!!

come on, you gotta think... thats not logical.


Dude, nothing you ever say is logical.

Let me break down what Nos was saying in simpler terms;

There is the same number of white people and minorities in poverty. That is correct. Those people are both living in the same shitty ass conditions. . the only difference is some of the guys have a lighter skin pigment. So, based off of that, how do you justify only providing help to the minorities? WHAT THE FUCK IS THE DIFFERENCE? So, because there are more white people who have been successful in this country, the ones who were not successful should be left to fend for themselves even if they didn't do anything wrong (like the minorities who were born into the life of poverty)?

Dog, nobody is saying support programs shouldn't exist. . but it shouldn't be about race. What's wrong with making it about income per year?

You go on and on about percentages and all of this bullshit, but how can you seriously defend having support groups only for the poor miniories (when the same number of white people are poor too)?

I know that as usual you won't get the point and you'll just repeat the same bullshit over again, so maybe somebody else who didn't fully comprehend what Nos was saying now understands. Blay is a hopeless load of confusion/ignorance/bullshit, so trying to talk to him is pointless.

Sik Wit It 07-05-06 04:20 PM

Throw salt on crackers, like you...

Magic5 07-06-06 01:47 AM

Saltines ARE bomb ass crackers, so I guess that makes sense. :confused:

Blay'all 07-06-06 02:07 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
Dude, nothing you ever say is logical.

Let me break down what Nos was saying in simpler terms;

There is the same number of white people and minorities in poverty. That is correct. Those people are both living in the same shitty ass conditions. . the only difference is some of the guys have a lighter skin pigment. So, based off of that, how do you justify only providing help to the minorities? WHAT THE FUCK IS THE DIFFERENCE? So, because there are more white people who have been successful in this country, the ones who were not successful should be left to fend for themselves even if they didn't do anything wrong (like the minorities who were born into the life of poverty)?

Dog, nobody is saying support programs shouldn't exist. . but it shouldn't be about race. What's wrong with making it about income per year?

You go on and on about percentages and all of this bullshit, but how can you seriously defend having support groups only for the poor miniories (when the same number of white people are poor too)?

I know that as usual you won't get the point and you'll just repeat the same bullshit over again, so maybe somebody else who didn't fully comprehend what Nos was saying now understands. Blay is a hopeless load of confusion/ignorance/bullshit, so trying to talk to him is pointless.

yes, I am ignorant... :bored:

i DO see what you're saying, and there are programs that have focuses on yearly income, such as Affirmative Action, which i'm pretty sure you're against... (its not just race and gender related)...

but the thing is, when we're talking about social issues, sometimes you have to look at the big picture. thats part of the study of politics and public policy, and thats what this debate is over... and the fact is CHANCES ARE, if you are born with a white skin pigment in this country, you are being born into a better situation than the average person with a dark skin pigment... thats just the way things are in this country, and the numbers prove it.

as far as the name calling goes, i'll just ignore it and wait for you to get a little bit older and grow out of that phase...

and see, i didnt argue against Enygma, i respected his post. he didnt try to bring anybody else down, and he made a good point...

Valor 07-06-06 02:08 AM

lol its the millenium.....why do black kids still say its our fault racism still exists its not yr 1960 and under no more fuck eads

cry me a river,build a bridge, and get over it....we now live in freedom so cant we all get along

La Cosa Nostra 07-06-06 02:13 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blayboy
yes, I am ignorant... :bored:

i DO see what you're saying, and there are programs that have focuses on yearly income, such as Affirmative Action, which i'm pretty sure you're against... (its not just race and gender related)...

but the thing is, when we're talking about social issues, sometimes you have to look at the big picture. thats part of the study of politics and public policy, and thats what this debate is over... and the fact is CHANCES ARE, if you are born with a white skin pigment in this country, you are being born into a better situation than the average person with a dark skin pigment... thats just the way things are in this country, and the numbers prove it.

as far as the name calling goes, i'll just ignore it and wait for you to get a little bit older and grow out of that phase...

and see, i didnt argue against Enygma, i respected his post. he didnt try to bring anybody else down, and he made a good point...

Blay.......You are a moron..

Straight up..

Theres really nothing else I can say.


Your opinions are geared towards perpectuating a double standard in society based on skin color.

YOU are being racist..........TOWARDS YOUR OWN PEOPLE.

You are basically saying, that reguardless of the fact that white poverty figures are the same as blacks.. Because there are less of them, they are more worth helping..

Can you not get it through your thick skull how pathetic that is?

Magic5 07-06-06 02:23 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blayboy
yes, I am ignorant... :bored:

i DO see what you're saying, and there are programs that have focuses on yearly income, such as Affirmative Action, which i'm pretty sure you're against... (its not just race and gender related)...

but the thing is, when we're talking about social issues, sometimes you have to look at the big picture. thats part of the study of politics and public policy, and thats what this debate is over... and the fact is CHANCES ARE, if you are born with a white skin pigment in this country, you are being born into a better situation than the average person with a dark skin pigment... thats just the way things are in this country, and the numbers prove it.

as far as the name calling goes, i'll just ignore it and wait for you to get a little bit older and grow out of that phase...

and see, i didnt argue against Enygma, i respected his post. he didnt try to bring anybody else down, and he made a good point...


Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
I know that as usual you won't get the point and you'll just repeat the same bullshit over again, so maybe somebody else who didn't fully comprehend what Nos was saying now understands. Blay is a hopeless load of confusion/ignorance/bullshit, so trying to talk to him is pointless.


Whoa, for a second there I almost thought that I didn't predict exactly what would happen. And, wow, that's great that you respect Enygma's post. . I'll be sure to let you know when I give a shit. I'll never respect anybody who doesn't have the least bit of pride for their own fucking race, so consider the feelings you have for me mutual. You're a joke, dog.

Quip 07-06-06 02:24 AM

dont worry blayboy is a retarded ignorant piss ant.

Logic The Goonie 07-06-06 02:32 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Valor
lol its the millenium.....why do black kids still say its our fault racism still exists its not yr 1960 and under no more fuck eads

cry me a river,build a bridge, and get over it....we now live in freedom so cant we all get along

Oh man, the passage of time surely means everything's better, that makes so much sense.

*looks for the sarcasm tags*

Magic5 07-06-06 02:40 AM

*Finds the sarcasm tags*

Logic The Goonie 07-06-06 02:42 AM

Word, they're right next to the quote tags and bored smiley. I'll remember that for next time.

Blay'all 07-06-06 06:25 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
Whoa, for a second there I almost thought that I didn't predict exactly what would happen. And, wow, that's great that you respect Enygma's post. . I'll be sure to let you know when I give a shit. I'll never respect anybody who doesn't have the least bit of pride for their own fucking race, so consider the feelings you have for me mutual. You're a joke, dog.

are you serious right now?

lol, we've had a LIL CALI,
looks like now we have a Nos Jr...

La Cosa Nostra 07-06-06 06:29 AM

^This guy must know hes wrong...

He just cant admit it.

Blay'all 07-06-06 06:32 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
Blay.......You are a moron..

Straight up..

Theres really nothing else I can say.


Your opinions are geared towards perpectuating a double standard in society based on skin color.

YOU are being racist..........TOWARDS YOUR OWN PEOPLE.

You are basically saying, that reguardless of the fact that white poverty figures are the same as blacks.. Because there are less of them, they are more worth helping..

Can you not get it through your thick skull how pathetic that is?

i've realized the problem with you people on this site is that you arent educated... you dont realize that public policy is even a science. at least thats what you're telling me... basically, you're saying statistics (at least as far as percentages go) dont matter. if the majority of a group of people are being oppressed, YES people are going to notice...

like, what you people dont realize is that every political science/sociology professor you ask will agree with me...

and PLEASE, just stop with the name calling, both of you...
lol, its not cute.

Blay'all 07-06-06 06:36 AM

P.S. - I am more educated than 99.9% of this site. You dont get the grades thru high school, test scores, or get into the instution i go to without automatically being smarter than most anybody else on this site, so please, calling me a moron or ignorant REALLY just makes yourself look dumb, and ignorant...

Blay'all 07-06-06 06:37 AM

AND, Mim... realizing that another group of people are oppressed is NOT having a lack of pride for who you are, lol... its called not being ignorant.

La Cosa Nostra 07-06-06 06:42 AM

Nah blay..

Your not well educated dude... I can tell you that 100% honestly...

Youve been taught some real BS and it shows...... I know you wont believe it.. But w/e.. Thats your problem not ours.

Blay'all 07-06-06 06:44 AM

^ but see thats the thing, i'm the one with the formal education... you might say its "BS" because you disagree, but what they teach at the #2 ranked state university in the nation is automatically more credible than some random thoughts gathered from WHEREVER yall get your ideas from...

La Cosa Nostra 07-06-06 06:45 AM

BTW-- Let me take a guess..

The guy who taught you about these issues was an old black professor with a chip on his shoulder...

I almost garentee you thats the case.. Cause you have such a biased opinion in all racial matters and it shows like you wouldnt believe.

La Cosa Nostra 07-06-06 06:46 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Blayboy
^ but see thats the thing, i'm the one with the formal education... you might say its bullshit because you disagree, but what they teach at the #2 ranked state university in the nation is automatically more credible than some random thoughts gathered from WHEREVER yall get your ideas from...

Buddy.. Did you realise how many complete morons go to universitys?


It means absolutly nothing to me.

Blay'all 07-06-06 06:48 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
BTW-- Let me take a guess..

The guy who taught you about these issues was an old black professor with a chip on his shoulder...

I almost garentee you thats the case.. Cause you have such a biased opinion in all racial matters and it shows like you wouldnt believe.

LOLLOLOLOLLOLOL


yes, thats exactly who teaches public policy at UNC...
that just showed that you REALLY are the one who has misunderstood...

dude, my political science professor was an advisor to the former President of the United States...

thats what im saying, they dont hire nobodys to teach at this school... they KNOW what theyre talking about... a little bit more than you do perhaps.

La Cosa Nostra 07-06-06 06:50 AM

Yeah well, his intelligence obviously didnt rub off on you dude..

Blay'all 07-06-06 06:54 AM

^ riiiiiiiiiiiiiight.......

i'll quote what you said earlier in this thread...

Quote:
^This guy must know hes wrong...

He just cant admit it.

Blay'all 07-06-06 06:55 AM

now i'm expecting something like:

"whatever dude, keep believing those lies, its your problem not ours"

La Cosa Nostra 07-06-06 06:55 AM

Nope... I havnt said a wrong thing in this entire thread dude....

You on the other hand, have no concept of logic.

La Cosa Nostra 07-06-06 07:21 AM

I mean, the informations right there.. It doesent take a rocket scientist to work out theres a problem with the existing system dude...

Ysdat 07-06-06 07:22 AM

lol @ this thread still alive.

I was watching @ copy and paste it. Knew it would start some shit but, damn.

Magic5 07-06-06 11:45 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nostradamus
I mean, the informations right there.. It doesent take a rocket scientist to work out theres a problem with the existing system dude...


Dog, you must not have looked at the percentages lately. If you saw that then you'd realize support groups should only exist for minorities. DUHH.

Yeah, real logical thinking Blay. :rolleyes:

Shear Kaughn 07-06-06 11:52 AM

and this is for Nostrodamos......yes there are probably more white people in poverty then there is black...but that is because there is an overwhelming a lot more whites in this country then blacks.

BUT!!!

the percentage of whites in poverty in the USA is overwhelming smaller then the percentage of blacks in this country.....

you MUST understand that.....because that is important.....and is also direct result of a slavery.....

and for anyone that doesn't understand that...or for some reason just won't except it....take a Sociology class

Mad Dog 07-06-06 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Ysdat
lol @ this thread still alive.

I was watching @ copy and paste it. Knew it would start some shit but, damn.


ye i co-sign........

Blay'all 07-06-06 12:23 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shear Kaughn
and this is for Nostrodamos......yes there are probably more white people in poverty then there is black...but that is because there is an overwhelming a lot more whites in this country then blacks.

BUT!!!

the percentage of whites in poverty in the USA is overwhelming smaller then the percentage of blacks in this country.....

you MUST understand that.....because that is important.....and is also direct result of a slavery.....

and for anyone that doesn't understand that...or for some reason just won't except it....take a Sociology class

lol, thats been my whole argument this whole thread dawg...

Magic5 07-06-06 04:29 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Shear Kaughn
and this is for Nostrodamos......yes there are probably more white people in poverty then there is black...but that is because there is an overwhelming a lot more whites in this country then blacks.

BUT!!!

the percentage of whites in poverty in the USA is overwhelming smaller then the percentage of blacks in this country.....

you MUST understand that.....because that is important.....and is also direct result of a slavery.....

and for anyone that doesn't understand that...or for some reason just won't except it....take a Sociology class


Who the fuck has denied that? Tell me when Nostradamus said that that was not the case or tell me when I said that. NOBODY HAS SAID ANY OF THAT BULLSHIT.

Why the fuck is it so hard for you guys to understand a seemingly simple concept? This site is so fucking retarded sometimes, it's ridiculous. "Well, you need to except this. ." MOTHERFUCKER, NOBODY HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THAT NOT BEING TRUE IN THE FIRST PLACE. This shit is just going in circles because you retards can't seem to grasp the concept that support groups shouldn't be about race or skin pigment, but instead be about the income level of people/families. If a person or family is broke as fuck, they should get help. The percentage of minorities in poverty is irrelevant to the topic at hand, and that's why I said to throw it to the side right now. Because porptionally more minorities are in poverty, they should be the only ones getting help even if a white dude is suffering just as bad? PLEASE explain that logic to me.

Magic5 07-06-06 04:31 PM

^ Nobody is saying minorities should not be given help or poor white guys should be given more or less help. . just that they should be given help. Support groups shouldn't only be applied to minorities.

La Cosa Nostra 07-06-06 08:18 PM

Mim bro.. Blay just doesent have the smarts...

Its blaitantly obvious he has a big mental block and cant comphrend simple logic....

Just let it slide I recon......

Shear Kaughn 07-06-06 08:32 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
Who the fuck has denied that? Tell me when Nostradamus said that that was not the case or tell me when I said that. NOBODY HAS SAID ANY OF THAT BULLSHIT.

Why the fuck is it so hard for you guys to understand a seemingly simple concept? This site is so fucking retarded sometimes, it's ridiculous. "Well, you need to except this. ." MOTHERFUCKER, NOBODY HAS SAID ANYTHING ABOUT THAT NOT BEING TRUE IN THE FIRST PLACE. This shit is just going in circles because you retards can't seem to grasp the concept that support groups shouldn't be about race or skin pigment, but instead be about the income level of people/families. If a person or family is broke as fuck, they should get help. The percentage of minorities in poverty is irrelevant to the topic at hand, and that's why I said to throw it to the side right now. Because porptionally more minorities are in poverty, they should be the only ones getting help even if a white dude is suffering just as bad? PLEASE explain that logic to me.


think for a second man.......they call it welfare....don't call me nor that other cat retards because what we are discussing is more significant then an issue that is already being handled....

the only real support group that black people have is the NAACP and they hardly ever do anything......

and i think everyone can pretty much agree that if a white person that is just as equallyl poor as a black person is thrown into society...the white person in this country has a better chance of advancing.......that is what is important....mothafucka

Blay'all 07-06-06 10:39 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mimesis
^ Nobody is saying minorities should not be given help or poor white guys should be given more or less help. . just that they should be given help. Support groups shouldn't only be applied to minorities.

but who the fuck said support groups only exist for blacks? there ARE support groups for blacks, but there are also support programs for the poor... i just think your argument in that aspect is over-exaggerated, do you really think the fact that the NAACP exists makes it that much easier for a poor black man to get a job than a poor white man?


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