ah ha..son i was a rookie fa real..i met up wit my niggas and listened to how wack i was..nigga fuck that i spit whats real man...i dont have no money like that..i had a car..i dont have hella groupies..so fuck spittin like that..

i dont know what underground heads you listen to, but the majority of who i listen to dont talk about the shit mainstream talks about all the time 24/7, they may include it in a track or 2, but i dont listen to those tracks, and i dont hate mainstream just because its mainstream i listen to nas and older eminem, and he was mainstream at the peak of his skill so i dont hate mainstream at all i just hate the artists in it there shouldnt be a gap between underground and mainstream there shouldnt be any labeling but thats what its come to because almost all of mainstream is one type of music these days, its come down to where its not about lyrics anymore thats what i care about, when you got artists who are selling more cuz they got more 'ice' instead of better rhymes, THATS what i dont like about mainstream these days and you're just dense as hell if you cant see that

well hip hop is what you make it

I think that it should be a mix of both......cuz if you take shit serious too much its just boring you gotta loose up and have a party track....all that....I love hearing intelligent soul filled rhymes is good..I love the shit...but you gotta realize that shit just is dumb if you take it that way all the time........its just u know :yawn: thats what makes a rapper good......Like Tupac man....he didn't always keep it serious he was an all around artists.....he went from street,too love,too club too real shit....and thats why pac is the greatest of all time too do it in my eyes...he was soo damn versatile and has a track for every mood

underground hip hop defers alot....sum rap about rappin there own mom them killin them.... stupid shit like that.... so does that mean necro and immortal tech and foos like that keep it real? of course they do: :rolleyes: hell naw they dont......only underground rapper i listen to is murs and i like livin legends thats the keep it real underground artists.......so yeah theres different kinda underground artists but id still rather listen to music i can drive to wihch = i like mainstream..... who in the fuck can drive and listen to pycho realm ?not me :thumbup:

Hey, let's all play duck duck goose. Duck, Duck, Duck, Duck, Duck, Duck, Duck, Duck, Duck, Duck, Duck, Duck, GOOSE *runs around in circles* AHAHAHAHAHAHA, guess what? I fuckin hate you you stupid faggot.

yea no doubt you definately dont wanna have the same shit all the time, but like you said they should split it up once in a while instead of havin one side of the spectrum put out there all the time

I'm sick of every fuckin underground head having this reverse descrimination for underground music. People are trying to justify how ignorant most mainstream music is today. Not all underground rappers rap about the moon and the stars and flower petals. Most of the time their main problem is like, beats or delivery. But you motherfuckers would rather hear gay lyrics with a good beat than good lyrics with a gay beat. Wait scratch that, underground heads actually have good beats now. And the beat is NEVER annoying. It's just more toned down. More calm and it amplifies the effects of the lyrics. But no, you go and listen to your gay club bottles popping bullshit, I'll be here actually listening to something that makes me give a fuck about what they have to say.


Ps. die

Mainstream music is fucking wack. Most of it is just straight up garbage, Absolutely no effort went into making it, and what they get out of it is a bunch of dumbasses following trends and basically handing over their wallets. Mainstream music is music, but it is not good music. Underground music is wack sometimes, but a lot of the time its at least got an OK beat, nice flow and decent lyrics. I agree that undeground music is not suitable for clubs, it was not made to be danced to. I dont think ANYBODY on RV would say that underground music should be played in clubs.

But wtf @ mainstream music. Shit beat, shit lyrics, shit vocals, shit flow. wtf is good about it? Nothing at all is good about 99% of mainstream music. It SUCKS. Musically, it IS NOT GOOD MUSIC. It is not melodic, it is droning and repetetive, it sends a bad message to the public which just fuels the already imminent demise of this society by degrading women, promoting premiscuity and violence, and raising a bunch of no-minded idiots.

You might say "youre dumb, people like mainstream music, just cos u dont dusnt meen its bad." It's called adaptation. Every human does it. If you sit someone in a room, and play a horribly bad song over and over again, by the time they leave the room they will love the song. Same goes for food, if someone eats a food they hate over and over again, they no longer hate the food and actually would prefer it over other foods.

For years, all that has been on the radio and all that has been on MTV is complete trash. By now, record companies have succeeded in making the general public LOVE complete trash. Mainstream music, listen to the shit, its all basically the same thing but slightly different. Anyone could jump on the bandwagon and make millions. For example, will smith. My guess was he was running low on millions, maybe had only like 50 million left, so he in about half an hour wrote down some shit, the next day went and recorded a song. He is a smart man. He listened to what was on the radio and what was popular, and copied but made it slightly different. Next thing you know he is millions of dollars richer, without doing diddly squat.

Mainstream music is SHIT music. It does a bad job at being music, and if you were even slightly musically literate, you would be able tosee its faults in an instant. And im not talking like just knowing a lot about music and listening to it a lot and knowing artists lives and shit, im talking musically literate, as in studied music theory and composition and shit, or are at least slightly aware of it.

omg, u still dont get it do u???

i dont even call it mainstream cuz its jus muzic fam, but on the real, u sund like every other underground head, I DONT GIV A FUCK about tis lyrics or "message" if i want that i listen to underground, if i want to feel good n feel like goin to da club n get'n my shine on wit my whip, i put on sum dem franchise boyz or Slim Thug

n if no actual talent goes into it, y cant u make a ctachy ass hook or a dope song that the whole club can vibe to, its a skill that they hav n u dont, face it

Look, forget I even mentioned underground music. That's not what im talking about, I barely even listen to it. I dont know why you keep bringing it up, because it has nothing to do with what I am trying to say.

Why would I make a mainstream song at the moment? If I wanted to, I could easily write the song. If I had a deal, I could easily record the song and make some shit video. Then my record company would buy my song onto TV and the radio, and make sure it gets played a lot. Do you really think my song wouldnt be popular? Of course it would. It would be a smash hit. There would be those that hate it, but the majority would love it. I am in no way saying im skilled and I made a good song, so they would like it. I am saying that my song is similar to other songs that are popular, and has been pushed by the company into being played and whatever is played, people love.

What I am saying is mainstream music, musically fails as music. It sucks. It is not melodic, it is often out of the time its supposed to be in, it is repetetive, and simplistic. The FACT is that it IS NOT GOOD MUSIC. The beats are NOT good, the lyrics are NOT good, the melodies are NOT good.

All 3 of these people are from different hoods fam.

Oh, and I agree with you on the first post, but a lil. I don't care if you underground or mainstream. If you hot, I'ma knock you. It just so happens though, that I like mainstream more though, only because all the Underground music I heard so far is just lyrics. Anybody can make a hot 16, but can you make a hot track? If I want to hear lyrics all day I'd just listen to freestyles or acapellas. So I listen to mainstream. At least I get that combo of lyrics/a good song. That's why most (if not all) underground rappers can't go mainstream. They can't do both.