Lmao...America is two continents, or one country within a continent. - slaps JTR with a textbook. -

lmao thank you for saying what I was gonna say. After reading the whole thread, everyone was bringin' their points to the table, but it's funny that teamone who was the one dude who kept saying "YOU JUST DON'T UNDERSTAND" was the real dude who didn't know wtf he was talkin' about.

me personally, I could say the word if I wanted too, but i don't see why people are so big off using it. Isn't "homie" or "Dawg" good enough? why make it "Nigga"? it's just stupid IMO

^SHIT EXACTLY!! lmao @ saying "You don't know what it is to be black" fuck out of here. word to this mu fucka sane

this is how i feel about the word...and by the way i'm black myself, just for those who dont' know

for me, i don't care who says the word "nigga" around me...weither you are black, white, asian, latino or whatever....but what does bother me is the people who say it and sound like complete asses saying it. like if paul wall was to come up to me and say "what up nigga, whats good with you" i wouldn't have any problem with it what-so-ever
but if someone like george bush came up to me and say "hey what up nigga, whats good with ya" then i'll look at him like he has lost his mind......catch my drift?

for some non-blacks it works......but for others....it really doesn't...

personally i don't really say it that much because i really wasn't raised around the word that much as others...most black people who say the word say it becuase they hear it all the time in every sentence everyday so they say it without even knowing they are saying. goes the same for some white people....some white people have been raised since they was real young around black people and shit and they just grew up how the black people did...so its whatever

*leaves thread

OMG!!!!!! North America -_-. You know, cuz I figured people would be able to figure it out

LMFAOOOOOOOO

WOOOOOOOOOW @ The Paul Wall/George Bush comparison

Thank you for completely proving why your logic is retarded for me.

Thanks :thumbup:

nigga is slang and therefore is an exception from all rules of proper gramar/english/spelling ect.

it's different yo

i really don't care to tell the truth...becuase it dosen't render my feelings if shit dont' work for you

Some of you kids abuse the internet...cause you know damn well you come on here and say shit you'll get shot for off the net. Nigga and Nigger are no way,shape of form the same. They don't mean tha same they don't sound the same. Nigga was first created to laugh at the derogatory meaning,but then people started being called a nigga..mainly because it was OUR thing to do. It was our language and we didn't want no one else calling us that,because it was posed to remind us,and everybody else in the world that slavery exisisted,and don't forget that shit cause it was a desperate time in blacks lives. Nigger is what we were called. It was an ignorant term, and still is. When most black people hear this word,it makes em mad cause it makes everybody else mad,but to the black people that got sense,it disgust them.

Now a days,niga just means "homie"...I myself user this word on average, 30+times a day...nothing to it..no meaning wat so ever...

Nigger now a days is used for the ignorant blacks who are seen to do something dumb,and that just embarrasses all blacks in general.

IE: Nice rims on a busted ass scrapers...you'sa nigger!

It's sad that someone would even think they mean tha same..but that's the world we live in..
And lemme clear this up for tha idiots,racism still do exist...don't give a fuck wat you think...stop being blind asshole!!!!

yo clear ur pm box its full man...i tried pm'in u but ur shit full
anyway holla at me on aim bout it "Smartone Freal"

Fuck it, why do you care? Do you want to say it?

So if you say that they mean the same thing, why is it a word that I as a white person cannot say? If it is understood that I cannot say it, why is it a word as a black person you can say? Isn't that in itself being racist?

Now don't get me wrong, I know the whole history behind the word and the differences between the two, but come on.....if you say that they have different meanings, then there should be no problem with me saying the one that is not derogatory, right? If they mean the same thing, then why would you call your friend that?

Just think about it the next time you are talking to one of your friends and the word comes up. Think about it the next time someone calls you that word, no matter what color their skin is. Think really hard about what it is that they are calling you. If you just brush it off and say, "Meh, it's just a word," then you shouldn't care who is using it. If you say, "Hell no, ain't no white boy (which is usually used in a derogatory way) gonna get away with calling me that," then you shouldn't say it either


By the way.................EAGLES WON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thumbup:

eww ur sig iis fuckin gross, lmao

Word....I shit on mics :)

a nigger is the one who was gettin' whipped by the white man with a rope around his neck.

a nigga is the one makin' money with a gold rope around his neck.

It couldn't have been said any better by my man Pac, a nigger is an african-american slave, a nigga is a man who's ignorant and just don't give a fuck.

I don't give a fuck whose saying it..but some white people say tha shit to fit in,which in fact is annoying and they should get their ass beat..but tha word does have a difference..if you read my post you would understand..don't quote something that you skim thru..nigga was brought up to give ourselves a name..to remind ourselves wat we went thru and make sure everybody else knows..over time tha word changed to mean nuthin..who cares who say it? I don't..some do...I call some people niggers..don't mattere yo color..if you do something that's just downright ignorant...yousa nigger...

a nigger is actually a word in the dictionary meaning someone ignorant....

so in my opinion a nigger isn't just an ignorant black person...but an ignorant white, latino, asian..etc

so in the old days...it wasnt the black people who were the niggers....it was the white people who were indeed the niggers

That's fucking wack. You had to invent a word to remind people of what you went through? WHO GIVES A FUCK WHAT YOUR ANCESTORS WENT THROUGH.

1. Every race's ancestors have gone through some shit over history

2. YOU never went through anything, it was your ANCESTORS

man, that's pathetic

HEY, I made up a word to remind everyone of what the Jews went through, can you guess what it is!?
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Holocaust

Boo fucking hoo, lets all feel sorry for you

no matter how much i want to..i can NEVER forget my roots
without them i wouldnt be standing here

its importnant for everybody ta remember where and what they came from

4 pages of arguing, and yet no one has managed to make a single valid point for your side of the arguemant.

Shit guys, I think you're winning! :whacky:

Agreed, but to invent a word that only your race can use, to remind people of what you went through, a little overboard don't you think?

Feel free to spew more worthless shit in an attempt to put up a counterpoint, and i'll feel free to own the fuck out of you.

yeah you're right, that doesn't mean I would call a white or an latino guy "stupid niggger".

that's just stupid.

Why would you call anyone a "stupid nigger"?

THAT's just stupid.

Jack is a jackass...in all realness. You have no idea wat you're talking bout.so you come on tha net to say shit you get slaughtered for off tha net..how sad homie..that shit aint even coo...just leave it alone..there's a lot of things in this world we don't understand..but shit happens...y r there only white presidents...y don't blacks get equal opportunities as everyone else...and if you say they do you're a mufuckin lie...why is there a liquor store on every corner...shit like that..and I can careless what latinos.asians.etc. Went thru..I'm black so I focus on my peoples suffrage,which remains tha same today

First things first, no I don't get slaughtered for saying this to anyone, because I have already had this discussion many times in classrooms, while just hanging out, etc. with black people present. You see, I present my argument in a less offensive tone, and I recompense by agreeing with certain points while reinforcing my own and bringing up either logical, substantial counterpoints, or logical, substantial new points. Amazingly, there are some black people who are more level headed, mature, and intellectual then you, who won't get bent out of shape when someone doesn’t necessarily agree with them on a certain point. Hey, you should try out not being a retard sometime too.

Dawg, you think that Jews don't get hated on? When was there a Jewish President? Or Prime minister? I'm a Jackass because I say shit that you can't handle? Ok, grow up man, you'll realize one day that you're being immature and ignorant. Now go inform yourself.

Oh but you got one thing right, I am a dick, I’m a fucking asshole, welcome to life, there's more people like me out there, get used to it.

Man you guys really suck at arguing.

You kids are fuckin silly. The word is degrading anyway you say it because it in itself means "ignorant". Therefore saying what's up nigga or what's up nigger are the same thing. You're saying what's up fool. It's a synonym for fool. If its your friend, fool doesn't insult you, if its not your friend it insults you. Since racism was rampant back in the day, every black person was considered ignorant. As a matter of fact if they weren't ignorant they were killed. Yes the smart slaves were killed therefore keeping the ones that werent' not only stupid but afraid to teach there kids for fear they were killing there kids. Therefore ignorant became synonomous with black.

Now that we've gotten thru the root lets get to why it has evolved. The word nigger was the white man's strongest weapon in the fight to keep black people down. So how do you slay an enemy? Start by taking away his strongest weapon. We started by making them call us something else. But since you can't very well control how someone speaks (unless you're the government) the only way to twist it was to change it's meaning. With us saying the word as well, it held no more meaning and no more value. Therefore it stopped being used socially so much. With that word out of the way, the downfall of racism was imminent. But now that that era's over, black people have once again become ignorant enough to let a word effect them so heavily that it invokes discussions such as this one.

It's power is back because people don't deal with their problems the same anymore. The average person would rather be violent then solve a problem any other way. Or just not let a word effect them. If a white person called me ignorant it wouldn't bother me. Nigger doesn't bother me. Because my presence clearly bothers them enough. If i prove to them that words can't move me, the only thing that can is physical force, in which case i can legally beat their ass and not get in trouble, the word's specifyed meaning dissipates.

Now that you know the word, history and how it works on a person psychologically, ask yourself. Does this whole discussion really matter. Shouldn't we all be more focused on saving hip hop.

REAL TALK

I'm black. But don't ever insult blacks dead and alive everywhere by saying our sufferage remains the same. THAT'S BULLSHIT. YOU WILL NEVER SUFFER like anyone who suffered to have us where we are today. Besides that, the vast majority of our own suffering is self induced. Granted racism still exists on highly effecting levels, we also hold ourselves back with certain obvious habiths that i dont think i need to go through, besides that we idolize the wrong people, more black people would rather be a rapper than a professor. Knowledge is power. Stop being weak.

oh and context is nothing, it's all a matter of speaking to the right people, calling a friend stupid gets a laugh, calling a stranger stupid get's your ass handed to you on a silver platter. It's the same context, i mean concept.

Word!!! This sums it up perfectly...Im not even gonna read the 5 pages of replies

so...what if i was to say to one of my black fellows...(even though i wouldn't)

sup n***a in the term of "sup mate"

would i still be talkin to my black chum in a derogitory manner?

but i do agree the 2 "ni**er and n***a" mean different shit...and i'm white...

Me and Black Mage pretty much owned you

well for starters they really didnt invent it...us white people did
but nawww theres never no such thing as overboard
people buy cameras for lots of money just ta make pictures
and if it aint digitil spend cash out of there pocket just ta get the pics
just so they can have still images from the past
people spend 100s of dollars on video cameras and carry it around everywhere
and go through all that trouble so they can watch they past on tv
but it dont take much just ta use a word ta remember ur past
so how can it be overboard?

and lets just face it..as long black people are on this earth
the n word is gon exist so if thats what they are they gon address it
and if us white people dont like it cuz they turnin a negitive to a positive
then we can go fuck ourselves cuz i guess that word is just there ta be bad
according to us....why is it okay for us ta say it but not them????
we all say we shouldnt say it but u know damn well we keep saying it
atleast blacks got a right to say it

Just watch ya mouth. period.

Ya, except that had nothing to do with the topic at hand.

i was replying to what u said so i WAS on topic