and i respect that. Big L > Wayne at WHAT HE DID....
also, the word alive is key.

The fact people still think Wayne is the best alive scares me.

The man has no emotion, he sounds high all the time. Lyrically he is nothing, presence nothing, originality, nothing.

This man is nothing. He has hot beats and his voice goes along with the beats. I guaruntee you if someone else spit it, you wouldn't like it.

Sean Gunner wins, and Blayboy, the keyword alive isnt relevant, because even then I can still name 30 emcees better then Wayne.

are you SERIOUS??????
dawg, i read Wayne's rhymes on paper and freak out.

"that gun got me walkin like i got irregular knees,
i be all over that bread like sesame seeds

Dipset, big birds..... no Sesame Street"

its just his style and how he says shit that makes him him man... and that quote was off of his brand new collabo with Jim Jones on "Weatherman" so PLEASE dont say shit about Gillie or anybody else writing that shit. and Sean, no emotion????? you are crazy, i can name you Wayne songs where you'll be convinced he broke down into tears after spitting the verse, yall just havent heard WAYNE. you're judging your opinions off of some Go DJ and Stuntin Like My Daddy shit alone.

Joe Budden murders Lil Wayne
on or off paper

^ i see that as a preference thing... i love Budden's lines, but he just doesnt entertain me like Wayne does, so he'll never be my favorite rapper.

ok im bout to just drop a few interviews that gillie said...he did ghostwrites mostly all his shit...

http://www.zshare.net/audio/1gillieshade-mp3.html

http://www.zshare.net/audio/2gillieshade-mp3.html

http://www.zshare.net/audio/3gillieshade-mp3.html

http://www.zshare.net/audio/4gillieshade-mp3.html

TALK SHIT NOW...IF YOU LIKE A RAPPER THAT KISSED ANOTHER MAN AND DID NOT SAII IT WASNT TRUE...THAN YOU ARE GAY!

are you serious man? the whole wayne kissing baby thing is old lol, scroll thru the threads from a couple weeks ago. of course he isnt denying it, BECAUSE HE ISN'T GAY. if you think its wrong for 2 men who are like father and son to kiss when theyre saying peace to each other, then thats fine, don't do it yourself. but saying that its gay proves how stupid and immature you are, neither one of them gets any kind of sexual pleasure out of it, its just all love in the family, thats how close they are.

and im so sick of seeing all these Gillie videos lol. ive seen all of them, if i made a bunch of youtube videos and said i'm the reason P Diddy is famous would that mean its true?

bye

Name 2 of Wayne's dopest songs that I can listen to.

BlayBoy is such a Wayne dickrider
Kissin a man in the mouth is gay as hell
and anyone that defends and says it isnt is gay aswell
and anyone that says callin somethin is gay immature is gay also

Check out Lil' Waynes "Georgia Bush...64 bar freestyle" off of DJ Drama/Lil Wayne Dedication 2 and either "Dough is what I got" or "Cannon" or a number of other songs.

that's bullshyt... nobody was talking that shyt til jay-z and biggie started saying that... and personally, i think jay and big over-exaggerated that shyt... they nice as hell but to freestyle all that shyt in a booth?!!!! it would take forever to make an album and just as long to memorize a freestyle album... lmao... let's be real

you serious?

thats some middle school shit... gay = getting some sort of sexual/romantic pleasure out of being with somebody of the same sex. kissing your newborn son on the lips doesnt make you a homosexual OR a child molester. and dont come with some "yeah but wayne isnt a newborn baby" because its a metaphor to make a point. think before you speak.

to me, you cant capture the reason i like wayne so much in one song, but yeah that "Georgia Bush" track Blackout mentioned is a good one, but be sure you get the full 7 minute one with the 64 bar freestyle at the end of it... and also "Sportscenter" and "Money On My Mind" are good ones to experiment with...

what you're not thinking about is, there's a difference between freestyling and "not writing"... what Jay and Biggie say they did is not ever write their verses down, they just thought them up in their head and memorized them without writing them down. and thats what Wayne supposedly does for most of his album tracks, but he does freestyle alot of his mixtape tracks, and you can tell which ones they are if you listen to em... you can tell when somebody's just going off the top.

^^ 2 questions, and don't get defensive cuz i'm not argueing with you like these other people, i'm just "discussing"

1. Do you kiss your dad on the lips?

Sure, it's not "homosexual" but it is, odd. I mean, it's just not something that you do...

2. If you like Lil' Waynes lyrics, and Gillie wrote his lyrics...... you get the point

I personally could give a shit less about either two of these rappers

Lil Wayne doesn't appeal to me at all...specially after that "accapella freestyle" on bet...shit was wack

oh well keep loving who you love just my two cents

haha, i feel you man.

1. no i dont, and i would think it was weird if my dad wanted me to. but see, you get the point unlike these other people...you can not feel the same way as somebody else without them being "gay"

2. haha, true. but, i dont think Gillie or anybody is writing Wayne's new shit. and Gillie and his people are most likely over-exaggerating exactly how much he did write.

you always own yourself in your own posts
you're right
he ISNT a newborn
that may be just a metaphor, but its the truth

and JR Writer is better than Lil Wayne

my point was kissing a newborn on the lips doesnt make you a child molestor because you arent doing it for any kinda of pleasure, the same way kissing another man you see as family doesnt make you gay.

wayne is WHACK AS FUCK..he doesn't write his own lyrics....THAT IN ITSELF IS FAGISH...

n he kisses another GROWN ass man??? ...tha fuck??

wow, readin this is crazy 5 damn pages...gillie said he helped wayne write the carter 1...which i believe...its evident on go dj...his swag is totally different than new...but gillie also sed he had nothin to do with carter II which lyriclly was waaaaay better than 1...(which was already stated) gillie never sed he wrote shit for wayne, it was more like "how would you say this, or does this sound good like that", he sed he hands down wrote for baby...which i totally believe lol...but wayne is running circles around the industry rite now....he's nowhere near the best alive...his subject matter is money, drugs...money...money.....gangsta...money....money ...lol his wordplay however is killin ppl...even better than jada and thats sayin ALOT.....

get jay-z fade to black, you will be a believer...for jay its like he writes in his head and rehearses it then goes an lays it down....

that turned into flat freestylin...people vouch for that...


wayne i dunno, but on his mixtape shit you can tell what he's freestylin...

Yeah, I guess that might be, but personaly, for me, after this I wouldn't be able to respect Wayne as a rapper, sure I would be able to tell myself "Ya his new shit is good" if I liked it and respect that, but I would never really respect him in general as a rapper.

We all got our opinions anyways. But it's wtv, come to think of it...

Hell i'd let someone write all my shit for me then rap it and grab the millions without actually doing any work. Hahaha, but the thing I WOULDN'T expect people to respect me if they found out, but honestly I wouldn't care. Like i'm putting this out there right now, i'd honestly do that and get mad cash and then start living the life and be like "You don't respect me cuz I didn't write that song? Damn, too bad :(................ I'M RICH BITCH AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!"

On some real shit, then i'd drive away while I sniff coke off some bitches ass cheek, like that harold and kumar movie

iight all i know gillie is going to be in a better spot than wayne...he is going to sing with g-unit south...which puts him in a better group..better rappers...no homosexuals and reall niggas...to many people hate on G-Unit...but believe it or not G Unit and Dipset is hip hop right now..n thats that

i hope you not basin that off that young buck shit on shade 45...where did u hear that at??

that shit everywhere even gillie said he was...thats why he keep saiin AYO BUCK...

where? i need proof of this...actually excited

Just cause a dude said he wrote his shit, dont mean its true. Dude grew up around Cash Money, so of course he going to have the same style. When you around someone for so long, you start to incorporate their styles and likes and dislikes, just a lil bit. I'm backing Lil Wayne on this one, because Tha Carter is tight, and alot of his other stuff, like 500 Degreez and the new shit Wayne coming out with right now. Gillies a fake, gets no respect from me, and it's just another publicity stunt!!

www.myspace.com/figga4lifeent....gillie's page...here the style...im straddlin the fence....wayne's new shit is way hotter, but shit gillie aint no slouch...

not that waynes that amazing wether or not he had gillie g/w for him

lol...5 pages...

Say Word?, Where Can I Read About This? Or Is That Just A Rumour?

no...god damn it..he didn't write SHIT on the Carter 2...its in XXL...i think noverember or october

dam shit is getting to serious thats it...gillie is better than wayne...and he aint even out yet..shit is crazy...