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Terumoto 06-22-07 06:52 AM

Personally, I wouldn't identify with the person who made this thread any longer.

While I do agree that over my life, the things that I was told were important and focused on were of little real value, in retrospect they could not have been the "wrong" thing for me to learn, since in learning them I learned that I needed to learn something else and was not learning something directly important.

btw Q, Jesus was hammered into my brain/life since childhood, in completely the wrong way, and he didn't belong there. Religion was one of the wrong things I was talking about. I don't agree with fucking up kids heads by telling them something you believe is true, even if they haven't made up their own minds yet. Shit like that is one of the primary causes for Christians (and members of other religions) being mindless drones who don't know anything about what they believe past bible stories and verses, and their misshaped view on salvation, God and how they should be living.

It has become a necessary evil in society though, doing something like that, since kids are generally treated badly. In a hostile world, surrounded by hostile people, children need something like the idea of God loving them. I have actually carried out an experiment that relates to this on a 10 year old boy that was raised as a Christian, in which I destroyed his world by more or less proving to him that what he thought about God and life was wrong. After that I gave him a list of things to keep an eye out for in life, basically pieces of knowledge for him to use as tools to rebuild his shattered world view. That was about eight to ten months ago. At this time, that boy once again believes in God and Jesus and is one of the happiest, down to earth children I know, he can answer any questions I throw at him about what he thinks and his views on the universe and life are better than most adults'. I would consider him wise. At school, he does not distinguish between the validity of his views and the views of other children, or even the teachers, he considers himself a human being on the same level as everybody else. I know his parents, and at first they were worried about his behavior, but now they say he seems better than he has ever been. Of course, I told him not to tell anybody about anything I said to him.

I just wish everybody would be real with their kids from the start, so they didn't turn out to be such annoying idiots when they get to middle/high school.

Indeph 06-22-07 02:40 PM

Old school OMB thoughts.

Crazy Hades 06-22-07 04:05 PM

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Try Jesus.


Try hanging out at a middle school and handing out pamphlets.

Feeble Minded 06-24-07 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Terumoto
I know that was meant to be an insult, but yes... I am able to see the things hindering my existence, controlling me. I am able to see through the tricks and deception. Which is the first step to being my true, free self, at least. Although this has happened over time, not suddenly, but often in sudden bursts.

Unless you accept the fact that your problems are YOUR problems and not things "hindering your existence" etc, you won't be able to change. You may have come to the realization, like many others before you, that some things which you have known and accepted are no longer acceptable to you, for whatever reasons. And you may feel that this knowledge makes you wiser, and perhaps it does. But you have to acknowledge that you accepted these things; they may have been forced on you, but they weren't literally forced into your head. At some point you made the choice to accept them, now you can make the opposite choice. If, when you were being spoonfed certain truths, you accepted these truths just because that is what you were told to believe, that was your fault. Now, obviously, you are a wiser person.

anyway... pz


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