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J. Luth 03-28-08 08:23 PM

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cf...iendID=33081745

100,000+ plays a day. goddamn he must be unknown homies

Cola 03-28-08 08:27 PM

that is a total, of everyone that has ever listened to that one song.....its not EVERY day, dont get me wrong...its alot, but how the fuck is he in DIPSET with out ONE picture of him and Jones? or him and Cam?

J. Luth 03-28-08 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Aphillyate
that is a total, of everyone that has ever listened to that one song.....its not EVERY day, dont get me wrong...its alot, but how the fuck is he in DIPSET with out ONE picture of him and Jones? or him and Cam?

no, read. It syas "plays today: 143,000" something

and i wasn't talkin' to you.

and son look @ Ecko on RV. he fucking with BWS. does he have pics with Game? no. Is he fucking with BWS? Yes.

Some labels have smaller branched out labels. Just because you in the small branch doesn't mean you get to see what's at the top. If you work at a corporation and you only mail man. Do you get to meet the CEO or even talk to him? nope. Same probably applies here.

I don't see why so many people need to critique others when they finally get off the net and do things. Be happy for em. This site is full of so much jealousy it's crazy

JTR 03-28-08 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SPuL™
^so the fact of the matter is, just because you and members on a rap site don't know who he is that means he isn't doing shit for himself? Nope.

Many people aren't lucky enough to break big. So you start small, well what he's doing is a big move, but small on the grand scale of things.

so I still don't see how that's a negative. Just because RV doesn't know him, doesn't mean he isn't out making money and getting a buzz.


What the are you saying, i'm not even going at him and you're defending him lool. Since this is a RAP site, and the majority of people follow and listen to RAP, and he's out there tryna be a known RAPPER, and not everyone knows about him and his RAP music, doesn't mean he's not doing shit for himself (i'm pretty sure I said "good on him" in another post in this thread buddy) it means he's not doing shit for himself on a scale where as the large majority of this site would know him.

I'm not even talking about a smaller scale, I been talking bout the grand scale of things this whole time. And I NEVER said it was a negative thing, you're just putting words in my mouth and assuming i'm bashing him and putting him down and saying it's a negative thing because I said, on that label, unless he sells major numbers, he won't be making an amazing amount of money.

Props to dude gettin himself a buzz and some cash, personally I don't think he's gonna become famous or make major money off this, and neither is anyone from RV.

The point I was making was, it's dumb for everyone to keep saying "watch this i'm gonna make it big you'll see" when they aren't doing shit. When they actually do something big then they can feel free to run their mouth.

If Dacument came saying i'm doing it pretty good I wouldn't knock him cuz at least he's got room to talk, the majority of everyone else on this site, like tha q, who says things like "I'm gonna have common on my album, you don't know what i'm planning, i'm bout to blow up, 2009-2011 is my year" is fucking bullshit.

So you can stop misinterpreting all the points i thought were fairly simple and that everyone would clearly understand.

JTR 03-28-08 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SPuL™
http://profile.myspace.com/index.cf...iendID=33081745

100,000+ plays a day. goddamn he must be unknown homies


I never said he was unknown smart one, I said he wasn't known on the scale I was implying. So the sarcasm doesn't work this time try again

JTR 03-28-08 08:39 PM

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Originally Posted by SPuL™
this site is full of so much jealousy it's crazy


Lol I really hope you're not trying to say IM jealous of Ecko or Dacument?

JTR 03-28-08 08:41 PM

Basically in the end, when you see my point the way it's supposed to be seen without assuming things I never actually said, i'm right.

J. Luth 03-28-08 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JTR
What the are you saying, i'm not even going at him and you're defending him lool. Since this is a RAP site, and the majority of people follow and listen to RAP, and he's out there tryna be a known RAPPER, and not everyone knows about him and his RAP music, doesn't mean he's not doing shit for himself (i'm pretty sure I said "good on him" in another post in this thread buddy) it means he's not doing shit for himself on a scale where as the large majority of this site would know him.

I'm not even talking about a smaller scale, I been talking bout the grand scale of things this whole time. And I NEVER said it was a negative thing, you're just putting words in my mouth and assuming i'm bashing him and putting him down and saying it's a negative thing because I said, on that label, unless he sells major numbers, he won't be making an amazing amount of money.

Props to dude gettin himself a buzz and some cash, personally I don't think he's gonna become famous or make major money off this, and neither is anyone from RV.

The point I was making was, it's dumb for everyone to keep saying "watch this i'm gonna make it big you'll see" when they aren't doing shit. When they actually do something big then they can feel free to run their mouth.

If Dacument came saying i'm doing it pretty good I wouldn't knock him cuz at least he's got room to talk, the majority of everyone else on this site, like tha q, who says things like "I'm gonna have common on my album, you don't know what i'm planning, i'm bout to blow up, 2009-2011 is my year" is fucking bullshit.

So you can stop misinterpreting all the points i thought were fairly simple and that everyone would clearly understand.


What so it's only ok for you to make assumptions then? You have no way of knowing as a fact what people on RV are doing. Who would of thought Solja boy was gonna blow? If it was the same solja boy, he had beef with Phase One who posted on RV before. Yet, he got famous and almost sold a mil with some poppy shit that shouldn't even be called rap.

So unless you know for a FACT what others are doing and what they will do, you're assuming.

J. Luth 03-28-08 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by JTR
Lol I really hope you're not trying to say IM jealous of Ecko or Dacument?

and there is another assumption

JTR 03-28-08 08:58 PM

Yea, but I asked it as a question cuz I wasn't sure rather then just saying "No i'm not jealous."

:thumbup:

JTR 03-28-08 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SPuL™
What so it's only ok for you to make assumptions then? You have no way of knowing as a fact what people on RV are doing. Who would of thought Solja boy was gonna blow? If it was the same solja boy, he had beef with Phase One who posted on RV before. Yet, he got famous and almost sold a mil with some poppy shit that shouldn't even be called rap.

So unless you know for a FACT what others are doing and what they will do, you're assuming.


But soulja boy wasn't on this site, and if he was, and went big, then I wouldn't be saying any of the shit i've been saying. I'm not being a pessimist, as soon as someone makes it i'll change my mind, i'm giving my opinion, that I don't think it's going to happen. And it's pretty fair to say, that MAYBE a few more people will make moves like Dacument, and MAYBE, but it's a loooong one, someone from here will become famous. But that's only a few people, one person, not everyone on this site. If barely anyone on this site is gonna make it, it's not too smart to say "You don't know! You're all gonna be wrong one day, cuz i'm going to make it! you'll all see!"

That's the point.

My assumption are completely differant then yours

I was assuming if people on this site will ever be famour or not

You were assuming wtf I was tryna say.

Those assumptions aren't even in the same catagory.

And my assumptions are based on the fact that, up until now, none of these rappers on this site have made it famous.

J. Luth 03-28-08 09:08 PM

w/e but you can't speak for something you have no factual evidence about. Not even any first hand witness. All you have is assumptions. And obviously as you like to stress assumptions mean nothing. Therefore you can't state something like it's a fact, all you can do is state something that's only a assumption.

JTR 03-28-08 09:13 PM

I'm saying plain and simple, no one on this site has made it famous yet. It's stupid for anyone on this site, to brag to everyone else that they will be famous.

And we know it is a fact, that the majority don't do things big.

Dacument and other people would be the very small minority

J. Luth 03-28-08 09:18 PM

^nope, that's not what you said.

you said no one has OR that one EVER will. Unless you are God... assumption

03-28-08 09:22 PM

Spul, hoping is not assuming.

I assume God is real vs. I hope God is real

completely diff. things

JTR 03-28-08 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by SPuL™
^nope, that's not what you said.

you said no one has OR that one EVER will. Unless you are God... assumption


It's called an OPINION actually

J. Luth 03-28-08 09:36 PM

^no an opinion is "in my opinion" or "I believe", etc. You STATED it as if it was a fact. Get it straight

J. Luth 03-28-08 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JTR
No hate, but honestly, and this stands for all the dudes i'm cool with too. I'm 100% sure no one who was on this site is gonna become a nation wide rapper.

^^^^^^^^^^

100% sure? riiight.......

and 2v take your random posting ass somewhere else son.

03-28-08 09:44 PM

Just because you don't understand what I have to say, does not mean it's random.

Good bye.

L.E 03-28-08 09:46 PM

And yet, beef on this site still exists as it always will. Does it make a board exciting, or does it destroy it?

Clearly, everyone who regularly visits this site knows the answer...

JTR 03-28-08 09:47 PM

Ya, in my opinion, i'm 100% sure.

That's how I think, that's my personal belief.

I made an assumption in MY own opinion. I'm pretty sure I said somewhere this is how I feel PERSONALLY. If it wasn't clear enough, then i'm sorry, but it was meant as an opinion.

Like I said, no rappers from this site are gonna become famous so it's dumb for them to brag that they will, that's my honest opinion, and if someone does make it then i'll say i'm wrong and take it back, til then......

L.E 03-28-08 09:48 PM

As far as I'm concerned...

I believe you can do anything if you want it bad enough.

So props to those who try.

J. Luth 03-28-08 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by 2v
Just because you don't understand what I have to say, does not mean it's random.

Good bye.

stfu you try to hard to get laughs on this forum, and trying to get respected. Nobody cares about you son. you fucking cheated in your own league as well. A better random act to do would to just go kill yourself now.

JTR 03-28-08 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by L.E
As far as I'm concerned...

I believe you can do anything if you want it bad enough.

So props to those who try.



Yea props to those who try, but a big STFU to the ones who keep saying "ima make it big you don't know shit ima own in a couple years and y'all aint going anywhere" etc etc

J. Luth 03-28-08 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JTR
Ya, in my opinion, i'm 100% sure.

That's how I think, that's my personal belief.

I made an assumption in MY own opinion. I'm pretty sure I said somewhere this is how I feel PERSONALLY. If it wasn't clear enough, then i'm sorry, but it was meant as an opinion.

Like I said, no rappers from this site are gonna become famous so it's dumb for them to brag that they will, that's my honest opinion, and if someone does make it then i'll say i'm wrong and take it back, til then......


where was the "in my opinion?" you didn't state it like that. You're only NOW saying it. I replied back to you based on how you stated it. By saying "I'm 100% sure" that's stating it like a fact. There was no trace of opinion in that post that I was referring too.

JTR 03-28-08 10:03 PM

Shouldn't be hard to figure out, there's no facts that can prove it will happen, and no facts that can prove it won't happen. All I would be left with is a personal belief in what will happen.

And i'm basing my belief off one thing that is a fact. To my knowledge, no has become famous, (to what I consider famous) off this site yet.

J. Luth 03-28-08 10:11 PM

"To what I consider famous" again, that wasn't stated either. Only now you're saying shit that wasn't made obvious by first post.

JTR 03-28-08 10:13 PM

Well i'm pretty sure what I consider famous is what most people consider famous.. anyways it doesn't change the point I was trying to make though

Cola 03-28-08 10:15 PM

who the fuck cares if your "considered" famous.....look at Britney Spears crazy white ass, being famous is fucking over rated anyways, if just makes you loose touch with everything that SHOULD matter

JTR 03-28-08 10:24 PM

There's a lot of famous people who aren't like that.

Cola 03-28-08 10:27 PM

n how would you know what they were like before they were famous, or even like now that they are famous. I'm pretty sure that 50 fucking cent was such a douche bag when he lived in the hood like he is now that he can just pay for people to knock out anyone that he wants. Money changes people, fame changes people....you can try and argue your way outa of this one, but the majority of people always change due to the over bearing amount of shit that comes with being famous. Even if they dont flake the fuck out like Spears did, they will change...

JTR 03-28-08 10:44 PM

Yea, but they don't change to the point Britney Spears did, not everyone who makes money goes crazy and makes a fool of themself. A lot of celebrities just do them and try and stay out of interviews because they don't want to be put in the spotlight. I would want the money that comes with the fame, I wouldn't care much for the fame it'd be aight I guess. I'm pretty sure i'd be the same person with that kinda money, just a lil more confident, and a lot more rich

J. Luth 03-28-08 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by JTR
Well i'm pretty sure what I consider famous is what most people consider famous.. anyways it doesn't change the point I was trying to make though

another assumption?

JTR 03-28-08 11:21 PM

Once again that kinda assumption is different then the assumptions you were making. What difference does it make what I assume, it's all my opinion lol. It was more like an intelligent guess rather than an assumption. We have media telling us what famous should and should not resemble.

03-28-08 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SPuL™
stfu you try to hard to get laughs on this forum, and trying to get respected. Nobody cares about you son. you fucking cheated in your own league as well. A better random act to do would to just go kill yourself now.


As if I'd spend time trying to get respected... This is a community board and I just think half the shit here is unique. It's the board I chose over many'a board choices and I'd like to stick with it. :thumbup:

Plus if you actually went back and looked through every one of my battles, you'd see how I did NOT cheat.

The league was completely fucking fair & honest, and If I ran a new one, it would STILL be populated by writers that actually show. So fuck off about it.

And I'll kill myself when I feel like I failed my life mission, and hopefully I make it an important one. lol.

JTR 03-28-08 11:40 PM

You chose this board cuz you bored of making new accounts everytime RB banned you for being a fag lol, stop fronting

J. Luth 03-28-08 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by 2v
As if I'd spend time trying to get respected... This is a community board and I just think half the shit here is unique. It's the board I chose over many'a board choices and I'd like to stick with it. :thumbup:

Plus if you actually went back and looked through every one of my battles, you'd see how I did NOT cheat.

The league was completely fucking fair & honest, and If I ran a new one, it would STILL be populated by writers that actually show. So fuck off about it.

And I'll kill myself when I feel like I failed my life mission, and hopefully I make it an important one. lol.

the league was a failure. And I'm talking about the shit you banned JTR for, you did yourself. You're a hypocrit. Nobody runs a league and participates in it. Ask R-Rated that.

03-28-08 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JTR
Once again that kinda assumption is different then the assumptions you were making. What difference does it make what I assume, it's all my opinion lol. It was more like an intelligent guess rather than an assumption. We have media telling us what famous should and should not resemble.


Assuming is giving an outcome or later happening of the situation, or taking a small bit of something and creating a whole. In other words, and opinion that isn't truly fulfilled, but you're still making it, at the expense of others.

03-28-08 11:45 PM

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Originally Posted by SPuL™
the league was a failure. And I'm talking about the shit you banned JTR for, you did yourself. You're a hypocrit. Nobody runs a league and participates in it. Ask R-Rated that.


Dude shut the fuck up as I said,
everything has a reason. I had a good reason to be in the league, I signed my fucking self in at the start and told people to get in and battle. To get BETTER. So what of the outcomes? You can suck my dick.

J. Luth 03-28-08 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by 2v
Dude shut the fuck up as I said,
everything has a reason. I had a good reason to be in the league, I signed my fucking self in at the start and told people to get in and battle. To get BETTER. So what of the outcomes? You can suck my dick.

then maybe be fair and not bend rules to your benefit? And LOL @ league was wack kid. What good battlers stayed in there? All the good ones left cuz it was wack, or you kicked them out for stupid little shit so you wouldn't have competition. Sorry, you failed. So don't brag like you accomplished anything


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