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JTR 04-15-08 07:21 PM

how in any way is saying "wassup nigga" to another white guy racist? It's not, black dudes will just get mad cuz the white guy is being "ignorant" and "stealing their word" lol it's dumb man.

And you can't let certain white people who you're cool with it say it because that's the reason why now all white dudes thinks it's ok for them to say it to eachother and to other black people lol

I remeber one time this big wigger was hanging with my 2 white friends and my black friend at summer school and he kept going like "waddup nigga" all the time to him, and saying nigga all the time over the duration of summer school, one day Jason had enough and he was like "MAN, YOU'RE NOT BLACK, JUST FACE IT" and the kid had a face like " :shocked:" and then he was like "YOU'RE FUCKING WHITE MAN, CRACKERS IN THE CLUB!! CRACKERS IN THE CLUB!!" and he was saying the crackers i the club shit as if he was rapping like 50 Cent and moving his hands in a rapping gesture

It was sooooooooo fucking funny, and the kid was sooo shocked that Jason would tell it to him like that

So funny man, so funny

.Eternal. 04-15-08 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SPuLâ„¢
I'm asian. FUCK THE WHITE MAN!


lol wtf thought u was east indian...

JTR 04-15-08 08:58 PM

^^ He's not east indian, and east indians are Asian dumb ass

In-Vision 04-15-08 09:02 PM

like it's already been said...its about the intentions...however...i will say this...


everybody...i mean every single fucking person on this planet....needs to forget about the negative connotations behind that word...only than can it be used as a bridge between cultures...why can't it be a universal term of endearment...rather than be debated on the politcal tip...people always talk....but rarely speak of their intentions....and more often than not...people take what others say...the way they want to...and not the way it was meant to be...why does this need to be any different? A

redneck in mississippi calls a black man a nigger......the black man nods his head, smiles, and says...yes I am.

Why? Because he doesn't know niggers like the redneck knows niggers...he knows niggers as a group of individuals who are strong...a group of individuals who wern't shamed by the word....but driven by it because their values allowed nothing less.

Now....keep in mind that....people your age...most likely anyways...have been taught since birth that some things are okay to turn away from or ignore....and others arn't...the person you might be refferring to when you say nigger...could very well be dudes grandfather...you expect someone to erase 15+ years of cognitive conditioning just because your intentions are good? Please..

straight up...if you arn't sure whether or not it's okay to say it...or ANYTHING for that matter..you probably shouldn't fucking say it.

In-Vision 04-15-08 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Indeph

If compose or Rev or Blay said the word to me I'd be cool with it because I know they don't have any bullshit meanings behind it.



awwww..thankyou you indeph.

Blay'all 04-15-08 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by R-Evolution
redneck in mississippi calls a black man a nigger......the black man nods his head, smiles, and says...yes I am.

lol, i don't know what in the fuck black dude from Mississippi YOU'RE talking about, but no black dudes i know from mississippi, or anywhere in the South, would have that reaction.

PS - how's Bargart's been treatin you recently? i had that fried vegetable appetizer one time man... and i admit, at first i was skeptical... but that shit was BANGIN.

:cool:

In-Vision 04-15-08 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Nada
lol, i don't know what in the fuck black dude from Mississippi YOU'RE talking about, but no black dudes i know from mississippi, or anywhere in the South, would have that reaction.

PS - how's Bargart's been treatin you recently? i had that fried vegetable appetizer one time man... and i admit, at first i was skeptical... but that shit was BANGIN.

:cool:


lmao...that didn't actually happen..it was just an example of someone choosing to interpret an insult as a compliment....and what the fuck is a bargart?

Blay'all 04-16-08 12:40 AM

i meant Bogart's... dammit. :mad:

In-Vision 04-16-08 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Nada
i meant Bogart's... dammit. :mad:


lmao...i don't know what the hell you're talkin about bro...is this a food place or what?

Blay'all 04-16-08 12:48 AM

^ mothafucka are you not who i think you are? i just noticed that it said Cleveland, Ohio... damn. i think Indeph was talking about the other Rev (graphics dude), not you... and so I was assuming you were him too.

In-Vision 04-16-08 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nada
^ mothafucka are you not who i think you are? i just noticed that it said Cleveland, Ohio... damn. i think Indeph was talking about the other Rev (graphics dude), not you... and so I was assuming you were him too.



oh damn...lmao...maybe im not who you think I am....damn damn damn...

my alias's are In-Vision and Braille...

what are yours?

Blay'all 04-16-08 12:53 AM

nah, definitely not, lol my bad dawg.

In-Vision 04-16-08 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Nada
nah, definitely not, lol my bad dawg.


it's all good...people have just been calling me rev for short....if they wern't so lazy and included the hyphen we could have avoided this confusion...don't blame yourself...blame the public.

Lay. 04-16-08 01:00 AM

hahah..this has swayed off topic just a bit.

La Cosa Nostra 04-16-08 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Nada
that statement is assuming something though... that black people are "niggers."

cmon man, could you try and be a bit more politically correct?


they call themselves niggers, or a slight variation of the word "niggas".. its not my business that they call themselves that, its their business.. but the fact of the matter is, that if someone says the word 'nigger' in this day and age, generally people know what they mean. humans arnt robots bro, at the same time logically understanding its a deeply rooted offensive term that shouldnt be used lightly by anyone outside of a certain non entirly specific group of people, we can still apply a definition to a word within common modern discourse.. even if it isnt entirly politically correct...

well.......on a forum anyway.

JTR 04-16-08 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by R-Evolution
awwww..thankyou you indeph.


pretty sure he meant revelation...

Blay'all 04-16-08 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Baphomet
cmon man, could you try and be a bit more politically correct?


they call themselves niggers, or a slight variation of the word "niggas".. its not my business that they call themselves that, its their business.. but the fact of the matter is, that if someone says the word 'nigger' in this day and age, generally people know what they mean. humans arnt robots bro, at the same time logically understanding its a deeply rooted offensive term that shouldnt be used lightly by anyone outside of a certain non entirly specific group of people, we can still apply a definition to a word within common modern discourse.. even if it isnt entirly politically correct...

well.......on a forum anyway.

^ i hope you were kidding with that first part... :p

and i agree that it is a word that (for a perfectly good reason) should be understood as a deeply rooted offensive term. i just think that, regardless of whether people know that the individual white person isn't "racist" or not (depending on your definition of that word), they still sound ignorant and stupid saying it... and its not THAT hard of a concept to conceive as to why black people feel comfortable calling each other the word, but don't feel comfortable being called it by whites.

thats all i'm saying.

Blay'all 04-16-08 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by JTR
pretty sure he meant revelation...

yeah i already pointed that out, lol

Indeph 04-17-08 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by JTR
For an anti racist person, you're pretty stereotypical, and I fucking dig it :headbang:


I said in the post that I was generalizing. I also told you that it's neccecary when talking about things like this. Which I'm sure you already know, but you're trying to find holes in whatever I'm saying to feel better. I know all asian people or even most asian people don't worship white people. I was bringing that up considering the way things operate in America and how "approval" among the "elite" class is achieved.

I say asian people worship white people because its extremly obvious. Nearly every character in every anime show is white. Even video games like the extremly popular game, final fantasy is white. I highly doubt that they're truly proud of their race if their ideal image of beauty is always caucasion. With that same argument black people worship whites. Latin people don't. Latin people I can honestly say are proud of who they are. Black people are about as far away from white as you can get so people like that usually phail at life.

White is to Asian what black is to latin. The world's resources were divided and one set of people got the most of it and one set got the least. And its in this that they relate to eachother.

Now what becomes increasingly obvious about the word nigger is that its not only about the race of the person, but their personality. And personality goes beyond their accent or what music they listen to. Listening to rap or being part of the culture isn't what makes black people okay with certain white people saying nigger. You can tell just by how they say it and how they carry themselves. Most black people can tell from talking to a person if they're a potential nigger guy. Now when some white people say it, like you and Red bull, it almost seems like you're toying around with the word in general. Like you're flaunting your willingness to say the word and hiding behind intellectual advances.

Saying nigger isn't a privledge and a gate open to a secret world of freedom. It's not a "rule" that you have to obey it's just a personal line that has been set by society as a whole for a reason. Crossing this line isn't liberating anyone, you or anyone else. You might be wondering why some black people say nigger. Most black people today say it because they heard other people say it growing up and now it became just something they say. Some black people actually say it as a form of irony because it calls out the elephant in the room with how black people are still looked at in America.

By breaking the ice it makes them feel more confident about it and lets them embrace that pride thats been hiding under that self image. But again, most people just say it because they've heard it from other people. I just find it kinda annoying that the people who ask these questions the most are the ones who don't really want an answer. They just wanna raise questions they assume no one has the answer to so they can break that limitation down. I'm actually stereotyping some more. You're right I'm actually pretty good at this. I'm probably racist. Who knew. Oh thats right, you did. :)

Indeph 04-17-08 01:19 AM

And In Vision is teh coolness.

Blay'all 04-17-08 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Indeph
I said in the post that I was generalizing. I also told you that it's neccecary when talking about things like this. Which I'm sure you already know, but you're trying to find holes in whatever I'm saying to feel better. I know all asian people or even most asian people don't worship white people. I was bringing that up considering the way things operate in America and how "approval" among the "elite" class is achieved.

I say asian people worship white people because its extremly obvious. Nearly every character in every anime show is white. Even video games like the extremly popular game, final fantasy is white. White is to Asian what black is to latin. The world's resources were divided and one set of people got the most of it and one set got the least. And its in this that they relate to eachother.

Now what becomes increasingly obvious about the word nigger is that its not only about the race of the person, but their personality. And personality goes beyond their accent or what music they listen to. Listening to rap or being part of the culture isn't what makes black people okay with certain white people saying nigger. You can tell just by how they say it and how they carry themselves. Most black people can tell from talking to a person if they're a potential nigger guy. Now when some white people say it, like you and Red bull, it almost seems like you're toying around with the word in general. Like you're flaunting your willingness to say the word and hiding behind intellectual advances.

Saying nigger isn't a privledge and a gate open to a secret world of freedom. It's not a "rule" that you have to obey it's just a personal line that has been set by society as a whole for a reason. Crossing this line isn't liberating anyone, you or anyone else. You might be wondering why some black people say nigger. Most black people today say it because they heard other people say it growing up and now it became just something they say. Some black people actually say it as a form of irony because it calls out the elephant in the room with how black people are still looked at in America.

By breaking the ice it makes them feel more confident about it and lets them embrace that pride thats been hiding under that self image. But again, most people just say it because they've heard it from other people. I just find it kinda annoying that the people who ask these questions the most are the ones who don't really want an answer. They just wanna raise questions they assume no one has the answer to so they can break that limitation down. I'm actually stereotyping some more. You're right I'm actually pretty good at this. I'm probably racist. Who knew. Oh thats right, you did. :)

^ see, you can see when people have actually thought through the ins and outs of issues like these, and when people are just immature suburban white kids who think they're funny... or think they are thinking of something that nobody has ever thought of before.

issues like this are extremely deeply rooted in culture, society, and ideology... yet the SAME uneducated (on these issues) people INSIST on arguing that it is as simple as one person being able to say a word and another person not, then think they've just created some kind of groundbreaking way of thinking. its the same people who consistently argue the whole "reverse racism" bullshit theory.

Indeph 04-17-08 01:31 AM

It would be alot simpler if black people just stopped calling eachother the word. Calling eachother ther word isn't gonna make you forget the meaning of it. All it does is cause alot of tension in most cases. It eases the tension when its already there, but when it isn't there it definetly makes people uncomfortable and divides people imo. People just need to learn to acknowledge something that hurts themselves(or others) without having to repeatedly put it out there constantly. That shit just causes unneccecary problems.

J. Luth 04-17-08 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JTR
^^ He's not east indian, and east indians are Asian dumb ass

exactly. And it's not East Indian, it's Indian. Indians are people from India. Stupid Christopher Colombus called the Native American's Indians because he thought he was where? IN india. Ask any NATIVE AMERICAN, they refer to themselves as Native American not Indians. Indians are from India. There is no west Indian, or East indian.

also LOL @ the amount of people who actually think Asia only includes China and Japan. Log off the internet and look at a map maybe and you'll be amazed at what you discover.

JTR 04-17-08 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by NADA
^ see, you can see when people have actually thought through the ins and outs of issues like these, and when people are just immature suburban white kids who think they're funny... or think they are thinking of something that nobody has ever thought of before.

issues like this are extremely deeply rooted in culture, society, and ideology... yet the SAME uneducated (on these issues) people INSIST on arguing that it is as simple as one person being able to say a word and another person not, then think they've just created some kind of groundbreaking way of thinking. its the same people who consistently argue the whole "reverse racism" bullshit theory.


You're a sburban white kid, that better not have been a subliminal shot, I don't even give a shit enough about this topic to address it seriously and give a real post. Anything i've said in this post is jokes. Lay off the cheap shots it's what little girls do

Blay'all 04-17-08 02:29 PM

^ ??????

I was referring to the group people who make that specific argument that I'm arguing against... you haven't made a single argument this whole thread. lol @ you getting offended and thinking i was talking about you when i even mentioned "immature suburban white kids" though. no i'm not from the hood, and i've never claimed to be... but i am FAR from an "immature suburban white kid." i wasn't insulting white people, or people from the suburbs... i was describing a specific group of people that i AM calling out.

don't get your panties in a bunch... its what little girls do.

JTR 04-17-08 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Indeph
Now when some white people say it, like you and Red bull, it almost seems like you're toying around with the word in general. Like you're flaunting your willingness to say the word and hiding behind intellectual advances.


What the fuck are you saying? When I say it? YOU MADE A FUCKING THREAD ABOUT THE WORD "NIGGER". So obviously when I talk about it i'm gonna use the word. Am I saying it to anyone? No i'm not. Am I saying "wassup nigga" to anyone? No i'm not. Red Bull said something like that to me, so get on his case for it, but don't ever fucking judge me because you don't know me man. You made this thread because you WANT people to discuss the woard and now you criticise me for quoting it FROM YOU or from stories/examples of other people using it? Anyways I don't give a fuck what you think, I say it to dudes i'm cool with in person, and I don't say it to others, and that's what it is. Fuck your little bullshit assumptions about me.

JTR 04-17-08 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by NADA
^ ??????

I was referring to the group people who make that specific argument that I'm arguing against... you haven't made a single argument this whole thread. lol @ you getting offended and thinking i was talking about you when i even mentioned "immature suburban white kids" though. no i'm not from the hood, and i've never claimed to be... but i am FAR from an "immature suburban white kid." i wasn't insulting white people, or people from the suburbs... i was describing a specific group of people that i AM calling out.

don't get your panties in a bunch... its what little girls do.


My bad then, I thought you were making a wise crack about me for no reason.

Don't call guys lil' daddy, it's what little girls do ;)

JTR 04-17-08 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SPuLâ„¢
exactly. And it's not East Indian, it's Indian. Indians are people from India. Stupid Christopher Colombus called the Native American's Indians because he thought he was where? IN india. Ask any NATIVE AMERICAN, they refer to themselves as Native American not Indians. Indians are from India. There is no west Indian, or East indian.

also LOL @ the amount of people who actually think Asia only includes China and Japan. Log off the internet and look at a map maybe and you'll be amazed at what you discover.


Lol Asia is China, Japan, Korea, Vietnam, Thai-bo, Flipalinoes, and yaa, those are all the cities of the country of Asia right?

J. Luth 04-17-08 02:47 PM

LOL of course son, of courseeeee

and India, Sri Lanka and etc

Blay'all 04-17-08 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JTR
My bad then, I thought you were making a wise crack about me for no reason.

Don't call guys lil' daddy, it's what little girls do ;)
don't be Canadian and pretend to understand southern slang, its what little gir... okay nevermind, that doesn't work there.

lol, but is it just me or are Russians "Asian" too? actually the MAJORITY of Asia? thats always mind-boggled me, because "Asian culture" doesn't involve Russians AT ALL.

J. Luth 04-17-08 02:54 PM

there is no way to justify the use of lil daddy to make it seem cool, or "hood" or w/e. The south may have their dances catch on with rest of the nation, but I assure you "lil daddy" ain't going nowhere. You call someone "lil daddy" outside south you probably end up with a busted nose or asked "Yo man, are you gay?"

J. Luth 04-17-08 02:56 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=an03mMhlCF8

I SEE YA LIL DADDY!!!!!!! LOL lord help us all

Blay'all 04-17-08 03:05 PM

^ lol, nah but for real have you also ever noticed that ALL of the male rappers with "Lil" in their name are from the South? and please, don't come back with "yeah, and they're all wack"... what i'm saying is, its said differently around here, not in a gay tone at all... the whole "ego" thing is different in the South. for example, could you EVER picture a rapper from NY running around the streets calling himself "Lil Boosie"? No, but Boosie is one of the realest, most respected street dudes from Louisiana. its just a different context that the word is used in, and dudes aren't all homophobic about it, because people don't even think its gay... its used all the time.

J. Luth 04-17-08 03:09 PM

^yea, son but I said that shit wouldn't be respectable outside of the south.

JTR 04-17-08 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NADA
don't be Canadian and pretend to understand southern slang, its what little gir... okay nevermind, that doesn't work there.

lol, but is it just me or are Russians "Asian" too? actually the MAJORITY of Asia? thats always mind-boggled me, because "Asian culture" doesn't involve Russians AT ALL.


I am part Russian, not sure which part though, i'll ask my pops. But uhm man, Russia also take up 40% of Europe. They're pretty much godly in terms of size.

JTR 04-17-08 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NADA
^ lol, nah but for real have you also ever noticed that ALL of the male rappers with "Lil" in their name are from the South? and please, don't come back with "yeah, and they're all wack"... what i'm saying is, its said differently around here, not in a gay tone at all... the whole "ego" thing is different in the South. for example, could you EVER picture a rapper from NY running around the streets calling himself "Lil Boosie"? No, but Boosie is one of the realest, most respected street dudes from Louisiana. its just a different context that the word is used in, and dudes aren't all homophobic about it, because people don't even think its gay... its used all the time.


Ill give u all my RV dollers if you change ur name to "Lil Blay"

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO

dooo ittt man doo itt!!!

WhoAmI 04-17-08 03:22 PM

russia's on the eurasian plate or something like that so technically it's both asian and european

EDIT: lmfao @ thai-BO being listed as a country haha

In-Vision 04-17-08 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JTR
Ill give u all my RV dollers if you change ur name to "Lil Blay"

LMFAOOOOOOOOOO

dooo ittt man doo itt!!!



how many is that?

Adam 04-17-08 03:28 PM

I think I still have the most RV dollars on the entire site.

/pimp.

Cola 04-17-08 03:28 PM

^^ n your also still the biggest dick sucker on the site, congrats


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