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why are people shooting at us????? lol, are you serious? we're in THEIR country with big ass guns. what, everybody except for the United States is just supposed to roll over and let that shit happen? |
"let that shit happen" What shit exactly? We're rebuilding their government.
Some are opposed some aren't, it's our problem and fault though, we're doing what we FEEL is right, whatever the fuck they feel is/isn't could/couldn't be wrong. They don't need to shoot. Do they? We're in a war because we're being attacked and searching for attackers. Not that presence isn't the provoking cause. America wants the war over, our presidency doesn't, and that's what's wrong in the scheme of things. All this other crap is distortions. |
In the great words of Mimesis.....................
Your wrong lol but yeah i like dissagree with 98% of the shit you said in here 2v. They blew us up first. It was a terrorist group that jijacked a plane blew up our buildings. Not iraq or Saddam Huseein. Last i check the group was mainly located in Afgan. We in Iraw because of weapons and to over throw and deal with Saddam. Even your fox 5 news said this. So by your logic. If a group of black people fucked you up on a street corner Does that mean your going to go over to africa and start killing people. And when they start throwing rocks spears and firing shots from their ak47's you really going to blame us for blowing up their homes and killing them because they were shooting at us. And that they started it. Your logic is greatly screwed. |
we knew who we were fighting the first time we went in, a second time would be no different. Dont get me wrong, its not like we can win a war against terriosm, terrisom is an ideology, so its basically like winning a war on a religion. There really is no way to win a war against something like this through democrecy OR war because their simply ideas that can't be killed through bullets and talk.
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^^^^exactly terrorism is a faceless enemy, this war on terror will never end, and when it ends in iraq, iran will be next then n korea ect......war is big profit..
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and to add to that hittler pulled this same terrorism thing back in the 30's right before his global conquest..right after he burned his own building down and blamed it on communist terrorists.
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....What? What the fuck does plane hijacking terrorism have to do with random black people fucking me up on the street corner? "They blew us up first." which is what I said, plus, when I said blowing up their homes, I meant leveling their homes with tank shots and machine gun bullets, until it fucking collapses. The difference in reality is that it isn't blowing them up, the difference in sight is fucking 0%. You're pretty much a stupid ass for calling me wrong. I wasn't. You misunderstood it. |
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you have got to be kidding me. THEY are the attackers? 9/11 was the Al Queda in Afghanistan, which has since proven to have absolutely no connection with Iraq. when have they "attacked" us???? (which would assume that you're talking about on our soil, b/c if we're in their country then we can't assume they have to be okay with that just because 2v on Rapverse.com thinks they should be). the people who have been attacking is us. i go to school with a kid who moved here from Iraq. do you remember the night when we first announced we were bombing Iraq and everybody stayed up all night watching all the buildings get blown up on the nightvision cameras? okay, well if that camera were moved one block to the left, you would have seen his house. he lived right in the middle of this shit, and it WAS a residential area full of innocent civilians. he was at home with his mom and sisters while it was happening... can you imagine that? okay, so that shit happens, THEN the people who did it start infiltrating your streets to "rebuild your government" (which is sooooo extremely ethnocentric... who decides what government needs to be "rebuilt" and what doesn't?) democracy isn't greater than any other political ideology, and that doesn't give us the right to bomb and invade another country. |
I was walking down the street and got attacked by a black guy with a gun.
what makes you think that means he came from another country to get me? We're roaming around their country and getting ATTACKED. is that clicking yet? And our buildings were attacked by Al Queda, true, but Saddam Hussein was rumored to be working with them. When Al Queda ran from the mountains of Iraq into Afghanistan, our congress simply payed the Afghanistan leaders to go after our attackers, which they promptly did NOT do. Where is the disagreement here besides the origination? We're trying to rebuild their government, which is a war because most of them don't want that. Most of our people don't want that either, but the same CIA that convinced George Bush that Saddam Hussein is a threat, is convincing him that Iraq will be overrun by its' neighbors to make their country more richer, if we do not establish Iraq as an independent. |
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^ not a single point out of that post made any sense whatsoever except for the last one about the CIA. seriously, i don't even know where to start :huh: "I was walking down the street and got attacked by a black guy with a gun. what makes you think that means he came from another country to get me?" ummmmm... where did i say anything that this applies to as a point? "We're roaming around their country and getting ATTACKED. is that clicking yet?" wow, you're slow. you're idea of what "roaming" and "attacking" are is so influenced by the society you live in. you're assuming that the US going into any other country un-warranted should be considered totally okay and have no kind of resistance due to the fact that our goal is "rebuilding their government"??? wtf, so if we just decide that rebuilding another country's government is a worthy cause to bomb THEN invade their country, then they HAVE to agree with that logic just because you do, or else any kind of resistance is immoral or considered an "attack"?????? thats such elitist bullshit. |
heres the point your missing 2v,
roaming = invading were not roaming we are invading/attacking their belief system and setting up our way of living....why do you think they call it a holy war???? |
And here's the point you both are missing.
I said why we are doing it. Not that I agree with it or support it. :thumbup: |
right,you did, for weapons we didnt find.....lol...wow..
iraq had nothing to do with 911. |
except that money one of the hijackers got was wired from Iraq... That and CIA reports stating Saddam Hussein was working with Al Queda. I thought I said this already?
oh wait yeah.. Fox news.. rofl |
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One major whole in your theory is that Iraq and Afghanistan don't border each other. You claim that al Qaeda ran from the mountains of Iraq to Afghanistan, but they would have had to go completely through Iran first :thumbup: Here's a map for your amusement..... http://www.worldatlas.com/webimage/countrys/me.htm |
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'specially for the people in power. |
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and so what if they ran through Iran? I said From, To. No but in all seriousness, they stopped at a few gas stations for various reasons along the way, bought some fireworks, fucked some Muslim whores and drank the night away, on their way. |
lol.....maybe they even rode camels across due to the high gas prices :thumbup:
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A war is only profitable in the first few years. The last time we had a big recession was during a long war. Its profitable in the short term because it sprouts new jobs. Once the military has all the new shit they need, the companies supporting them only need to sustain the products instead of the original supplying of, therefore lay offs occur and such and we start producing money at an alarming rate to pay for the war. This rapid production of money is what causes our dollar to go to shit which kills our economy :thumbup:
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pay for the war, i thought all the oil were getting out of there and the high gas prices should pay for it and then some..
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Dude, you act like we got a pump under the country suckin out all the oil. The reason that oil and gas prices are so high is because our dollar sucks ass. We're paying the same exact price we were paying for it.....in their currency. In our currency it seems like we're paying more.
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lol....
fact: in 2000 a barrel of oil cost 32 dollars, 2008 a barrel of oil costs 120+ another fun fact: 50% or more of the oil over in Iraq is being sold on the black market, and isn't even makin it out of the refinary's. The media just tries to make us belive that we got that shit on lock, but again--propoganda fuels society. |
Look at how much our dollar has dropped over the past 8 years.
When I was stationed in Germany back in 2000, they were using the DM as currency. The ratio was 2 DM = $1 but now that they switched to the Euro, the Euro beasts the dollar so everything got more expensive and shit. |
no, the Euro simply has more weight than tha U.S. currencey becuase its goign against like 17 countries. Its like 1 vs 17. Who do you think should be winning? Why do you think America wants to make an alliance with canada and mexico to make one north american nation alliance or what ever the fuck it is. So that way we can actualy compete with Europe and the rest of the world. Problem is, if that shit was to happen, than the Bible's predictions would finally start to come true, bout a one world front type shit. I unno, its all in what you belivie in.
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........yes it does my friend yes it does.... |
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........yea i always wondered why hardcore raciest rebublicans never closed the borders but theres a reason behind everything.. |
^^ like i said, you can look at from two different persepctives. One-Non Religiously, two-Religiously.
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I was looking into going into something with communications. I had heard a lot about it and the recruiter said they fix the computers and make sure that the information is transported to the troops so they can do their missions. I heard that you go through Basic and then you take a class on what ever your job is going to be. Or go to a school. I'm not sure it doesn't sound to bad. And just to get the discipline and the toughness out of it is what I need.
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That sounds about right. The MOS should be 25 something......like 25L or 25U or something like that. Find out what the actual MOS is and look it up on www.goarmy.com to find out exactly what its all about. I'm a career counselor now, so I can look up some other things about the MOS for you too, like how long the school for it is or even where the school will be. Basic Training could be in a number of places like Fort Jackson, SC (where I went), Fort Sill, OK, Fort Knox, KY or even Fort Benning, GA. But yeah, hit me up with what the actual MOS is that you're getting into and I'll give you some information on it like what the promotion rates are and reenlistment bonuses and such. You should also ask about an enlistment bonus, but I don't know too much about those.
You have some college under your belt too, don't you? If you do, you can come in at a higher rank......it all depends on how much you have. But yeah, hit me up any time if you have any questions man.......it doesn't matter how stupid you might think they are.....lol. |
you're right. 25c. That's what it said. radio operator/ maintainer.
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I'll look it up tomorrow on my computer at work to see what the deal is with it man. Off the top of my head I would say to get into a different 25 series MOS, but I don't really know much about 25C. I'll give you some more input tomorrow :thumbup:
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alright cool just let me know
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Aight man, I talked to a guy today who was a 25U Signal Support System Specialist or something like that. He told me that 25Cs do more maintenance on radios and such than anything else. He said if you wanted to get into that field you should try and get 25U because they do a little bit of everything that the rest of the 25 series MOSs do. He also said that promotions come easier to 25Us since they do a little of everything in their field. What they do in my unit is issue, maintain and repair electronic and automation equipment such as computers and printers and stuff like that. I don't have any 25Cs in my whole Battalion, but I have like 10-15 25Us.
That's pretty much what I found out for ya. If you got any more questions you want answered, just let me know :thumbup: |
The Business Man is Past Tense right? If you're going Army, then good luck man. Respect.
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Yeah, its Past Tense.
Mim, weren't you gonna join the Marines or something? What ever happened with that? |
Nice nice, and I was also thinking about a job where you work with fixing the guns or something. If I was to fight though on the fronlines, I would want to be a sniper
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If you want to go to sniper school, most likely you would have to be an 11B (Infantryman) first. Fixing guns you can do......I think its something like 45B or something like that. Its called small arms repairer. You'd be the armorer (person in charge of all the weapons and responsible for their safe keeping) for whatever unit you went to most likely. But yeah, its all about what you're trying to get from the army. If you want a job for 4 years that will give you some good experience on the outside, I would say stay away from infantry and go with that 25 series MOS. If you want to make the army a career, I'd say steer more into a combat arms MOS such as Infantry or Field Artillery. You might not like the job as much, but promotions come real quick and you get to go to a bunch of cool ass schools like Ranger Training or Airborne school.
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Yeah, they wouldn't let me join so that pissed me off, but s'all good. |
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