If you're a true fundamentalist you would know that a gay man won't be accepted into the kingdom of heaven.

Oh yeah, God didn't chose you to be a minister, you made the conscious decision to become one yourself. Quit being oblivious to reality.

q,you dont practice sin,bro your gay?????
im not judging u at all, i dont judge anyone, thats up to god im not saying your going to hell for being gay im saying god decides that..i know david and them were messed up, and were all guilty of sin.but your way of living has to line up with the word of god your either progressing or your backsliding of course we all slip up,but by being gay consistantly, its like your spitting in jesus's face when hes on the cross.im not saying i dont mess up i repent when i do slip up,but dont take gods grace for granted.and walk all over it.but ur trying to justify yourself by saying david and them were messed up so you can practice homosexualty
but i dont know your life style you could be trying to overcome your struggle,
but honestly i pray for your struggle with homosexuality and that u overcome it.

^Why though? No homo but what is so sinful about being Gay?

Those judgments are what kill Christianity for me. Why does Q being gay mean he wouldn't make it into heaven if he still accepts God into his heart?

Kidd..

I stated this earlier..

Christians worship an imaginary being that bases it's decisions based upon jealousy. First off, jealousy is not a God-like feature, so I find it sort of amusing really. Secondly, think about all the great non christian people in the world that haven't taken God into their hearts or have worshiped Jesus and have done so much for others with either charity work or doing whatever they can to help out people in need. They're going to get denied access to Heaven? That God is just a jealous cunt, that's all it is. Keep following your jealous cunt, I hope things go well.

Sorry Tha Q you're not getting into heaven because you were born with the homosexuality gene. You should have known to live the life I wanted you to and lived a life that was untrue to who you are, for this, you're going to hell.

See how fucking stupid your religion is? For fuck sakes, grow up.

Lol^ harsh words, but I find truth in them.

I was devout when I was younger, no lie, but as I got older I found out more. I learned more. I don't knock religion but lately it's just an overflowing of knowledge I've been having.

I actually believe in a "higher-being" in someways, but I'm basically Agnostic to the fullest.

To answer your first 2 questions. If you don't accept Jesus as your Savior, than no you won't go to Heaven. And no God is not heartless. Tell me, if you kept on your entire life saying that your dad is not your dad, saying that your mom is not your mom, how would they feel? Your entire life you ignored them and said that you don't love them. Would they hate you? No they wouldn't they would still love you with all their hearts. They're whole life they would try to help you find your way but you kept on ignoring them. When you die, they can't do anything about it anymore. Than you go to Hell. You're whole life they were trying to help you find your way and be closer to them. But because you didn't listen to them and just ignored them, you go to Hell. God loves you more than anyone can ever love you. But you have to accept him in your life for him to save you. But God does not send you to Hell. It's your choice to love him or ignore him. God loves you so much that he gave you free will for a reason.

thats great if your a good kind hearted person. You should go to church because it keeps you closer to him. No one ever said you had to say God Bless to someone when they sneeze. I never say it either, it doesn't say in the Bible you have to. God never makes you do anything.

The thing about Christianity is this. God loves you. We want you to know that. Think of it like this, will someone let you in their house if you simple ignore them your whole life? You can be the nicest person in the world. Donating money to the poor, helping an old woman walk across the street. Even donate a kidney or sacrifice your life to save someone else. But the thing is, you can do all of this for other people, but ignore the one guy that created you?

Yes we all sin in God's eyes. Not our way. We don't see sin in our way. We see sin the way God states it in the Bible. It says in the bible, "Anything you do you think is wrong is a sin." Why do something wrong when you know its wrong? You may not have a choice but its still wrong. A sin is a sin. Yes if you are a murderer and repent for your sins stating you want to change your ways, than yes God wills ave you. I'll tell you this, no sin is worse than another. A sin = sin. I can kill 1 person, you can lie 1 time. God will be disappointed in me and you. He will not love you more because you didnt kill. He will love the both of us the same no matter what. But the person that accepts him as his God and repents his ways, accepting Jesus into their life will be saved. THe difference is I love God and the other person doesn't. Who would he rather have in his house?

You can repent for anything you do as long as you truly mean it from your "heart." But you repent to Jesus. Not a priest, not a pastor. We can't tell if you truly mean it, only God can. No one can tell if i truly love God. I can fake it all the way to my death and go to Hell. But only GOd knows my heart and he knows your heart. Sure you can repent and not mean it. You won't be forgiven. We all are sinners from the moment we enter our mothers womb.

Most intelligent people are Agnostic, to doubt the possibility of anything is ignorant. To praise a fairy tale, it's just fucking retarded. I don't mind being blunt about it because it's no different from them knocking on my door with pamphlets telling me that I'm going the wrong direction in life and need to praise their God, fuck off.

Tell me Adam. Please point to me where in the Bible it says "YOU WILL NOT GO TO HeAVEN IF YOUR GAY" please point to me in that. All sinners wont' be accepted into heaven if they dont accept Jesus. Thats what it says in the Bible. But please point that out to me.

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first look at it this way, jesus is god wrapped in flesh,the bible says he is a jealous god,jesus was brutally beaten and killed for u to save you from your sin he purchesed you thru his blood..if you were in his shoes wouldnt you be pissed that people dont except you..but to answer your first queston yes he would condenm you, jesus said if your not with me your agianst me, and if you dont accept him as your savior and repent you will go to hell
your second question, i dont believe you will go to hell if you dont go to church,but it definatly feeds you and helps with spiritall attacks and church will give you understanding.
and to give you further understanding, if you break one commandment your are guilty of breaking them all and about the premarital sex and the murderer yes if you dont repent you will go to hell..thats just the way it is.but i see your point.jesus paid the price for everything.

Who would worship a Fairytale? Who said Jesus is a Fairytale? It never showed anything int he Bible of his life being so perfect. It never stated he had an amazing life. He had a horrible life and suffered greatly. But no he is not some made up fairytale. There's proof in History he existed. there's proof that he was hung on the Cross. There's proof that he made Christianity.

1 Cor. 6:9-10, "Or do you not know that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, shall inherit the kingdom of God."

Talking snakes

An ark carrying 2 of each animal

This is getting old dude, wake up.

Debatos, first let me say respect for answering my questions thoroughly and adult-like.
Thanks.

The only thing that confuses me is that Jesus/God has the power to help you after you're dead. Why condemn someone to an eternal fire in any case? If God has undying love for any of his people then why condemn them at all! Help them repent after death. It's his judgment right? Then why allow anyone to go astray? Sure some of them will by every means not accept him. That would be the only decision I think should result in hell.

One of the foundations of Jesus' teachings is Treat Others Like You'd Like To Be Treated, if you live in ignorance and ignore God you're whole life but you still treat others the way God wanted you to treat them. Why does that constitute hell?
Why is it that one thing that determines this? That's what confuses me.

The rest of your post I understand, sinning and repent.
Sinning is universal, you'll sin no matter what, I meant we all sin in our own ways. Like some people steal some don't but they lie. I just can't find God to be such a choosy person to the people he loves. It's almost as if he loves us all but the only ones he decides to give eternity is those who love him back. That is definitely not Unconditional love.

I'd like to believe God would accept them all. Forgive them at the gates some might say. Maybe that's idealistic to believe that God is that Forgiving.

Not saying one should not accept God and hope that he'll forgive your Killing spree when you get to heaven, morals still play an issue but, you know.

You forgot to include cor 6:11 which was actually right after the verse you created. Paul who wrote corithians is trying to state that anyone who does this will not go to Heaven. Not JUST HOMO's alone. Everyone who covet's anyone who does any sin period will not enter the Heaven. Did he just say homo's alone? NOPE

1 cor 6:11" Some of you were once like that. But you were made cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God"

It says that right after the verse you stated. that verse you posted means if you sin, you will not enter heaven unless, "you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God."

cuz the bible says its wrong and if you know your doing something wroing its a sin....im not saying he wont make it into heaven,as long as he repents and means it and trys to turn from his sins accepts jesus and gets babtized he should be good

Love it man


Love it!




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i might have read it wrong but jesus was perfect..

You're missing a key word. Were... Q is and always will be.

have you turned a blind eye in IGNORANCE and hypocrisy to what I have been saying here?

I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and savior...God called me from a young age to serve him...

I confessed, and continually do so, my sins to God...whose son makes me righteous through the blood he shed for me...

Now...I have professed that many times over...

Have you accepted Jesus in the pardoning of your sins? THat's the question.

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination."

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

EVeryone will always remain a "sinner" in God's eyes...SAVED by grace.



God is dealing with you Adam...and either you'll accept his call or you won't...


I don't have a heaven or hell to put you in...I'm just the messenger.




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You're just confused.

You don't know me bro...I've not said anything about being Gay

YOu are passing judgment based on what others have said.


I struggle with temptation like EVERYONE.

My temptation is no different from any body else's...

Sin is sin.


If you struggle with what you strugle with...that's constantly NAILING Christ back to the cross


That's what accepting Jesus does for us...it allows us to be presented FAULTLESS to a holy God in our sinful form


But...as Romans 6 says...should we continue in it so that God's grace abounds? God forbid...no


We are to STRIVE for perfection.




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When did perfection become living a lie?

Np Bro!!

Well this is the thing bro. God is never unjust. God loves you with all his heart, he loves withone the SAME way. God will not let you go to hell unless you had a chance to show you accept him. Its like this, someone has been cheating on his wife his whole life. And at the same time his wife never found out and stood with him showing all her love she can ever give to him. But when she finds out, she leaves him and shuts him out of her life. Now this man is suffering with regret and wishes he cant change his ways. But it was too late. He could have changed his ways before she found out but never did. Is it fair that she goes back to him after he realizes he will lose her? He had a choice, and its not fair to hear that he only changes his ways after she leaves him. If he truly "LOVED" her, he would have stopped cheating on her. If she never found out, he would have never stop. God loves you with all his heart and will never stop loving you. But its not fair that you only love him when you finally realize there is a a Hell and you will end up there. You had your chance to change your ways. If you don't change your ways than he will have no other choice but to send you to hell. Now thinnkg of this.

The guys that never cheated on his wife and stayed loyal to her all the way to the end. She will never leave him, she will never cheat on him, and she received the same amount of love. He deserves her life because he treated her right and never betrayed her. Now, for those that stood by GOd and loved him and never turned their back on him. And even if they did, they later "TRULY" repented and accepted him into their lives all the way to their deaths. They never cheated on God and always loved him. God will allow those people into his Kingdom.

Yes Jesus said treat others like you'd like to be treated. But Jesus also said, you can only go to heaven through him. If you accept him as your savior. You see, God will not let you into heaven because of your good deeds. he never said that. God said, you faith is what will get you into heaven. Good deeds are just extra rewards you will get in Heaven, but you dont have to them if you dont want to.

His love is unconditional love because he will always love us no matter what. I have said so many things to God how I hate him, how i dont believe he exist. How I said, "GOD you allowed her to cheat on me? Theres no way you exist." Yet! No matter what I said, did, is am going to do to him. His love stays the same and will alawys love me no matter what. And after I realized that, i can never say i hate you god.. i can never say "WHY." Well there will be times I will say that because there will always be tough times in my life. But I know now why these things happen. God never lets you go. But you see, he will love you your wholfe life. But is it fair he lets you in heaven after you die when you never truly showed and loved him? He gives you your chance. He shows you he truly exist by the people that are trying to spread his word. Its up to you by "FAITH" to believe he is truly there. That is why he said that Faith will get you in heaven. He never said Good deeds will get you in heaven.

Its just, God gave us these Rules. We can't say, oh i want to be a budhist because I like their ways are better. God made these rules and said these things in the Bible because thats how he wants it. And yes hes a jealous God. Arn't our parents Jealous? If we dont love our dad but love another guy taht isn't our dad and called him our dad. Wouldn't your dad be Jealous? Your dad created you and only he should be called your dad. Your dad will always love you. But its not right you ignore him and traet him like that.

But yea bro I know what you mean. I use to think like that before as well. You see, he will forgive someone that killed millions of people but only if they "TRULY" repent for it. You can say God forgive me but not mean it. But if you truly ask for forgiveness and truly repent for it. God will forgive you.

far from it...


There are no perfect messengers...

EVERYONE falls short of God's glory

ROmans 3:23 says it best "FOr all have sinned and fallen short of his glory"

But...accepting God is a calling...to be answered...and once yoiu answer...it's a journey...a quest...one f trials and overcoming those trials...

It's a sacrifice....

and I know for a fact that you know God adam because God revealed that to me...YOU KNOW...

u are no stranger to God's word...that's why God is dealing with you the way he is...

If you were a complete stranger to all this, God would have more mercy on you...but you KNOW the truth...you just refuse to accept it...

You choose not to get in the race by answering God's call?

Well...God wants to take your life to another level...and that wilkl only come to your accepting his call on your life.

the LIE is that we were created to be anything less than God's chosen people.


The truth is that we are special in God's eyes...with a purpose to fulfll...each of us.

Jesus was and Is perfect. Im saying his life was not perfect. THe live he lived was not the best. He lived in hunger, he had no money that he had to ask someone for a coin to explain his sermon. He was tired enough to sleep on a ship while huge waves were shifting all around them. Jesus lived a life harder than a lot could ever imagine. But he endured through it because of his Faith that God will take care of him. Jesus is the ONLY man to never sin. Why? Because he was conceived, he was Holy. Mary was a virgin and gave birth to Jesus. His father is God, and his mother is mary. Jesus was born Holy and Died Holy, and still is Holy to this day.

btw...this is exhilarating!

Love this dialogue...it's great.





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Are you becoming a pastor because it's easier to get away with molesting children?

Lev. 18:22, "You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an abomination.

abomination:
# a person who is loathsome or disgusting
# abhorrence: hate coupled with disgust

also, the bible says you shall not lie? yet you do it. It also says you should not have premarital sex. yet you do it? So your just as bad as those that lay in bed with men. Abomination does not mean you will go to hell. It means its not allowed. God also said murder is not allowed. God also said coveting is not allowed. He also said cursing is not allowed. You're just as bad as those that do any of these. Thanks for proving my point.

It does not say he will go to hell. or any Homo.

Lev. 20:13, "If there is a man who lies with a male as those who lie with a woman, both of them have committed a detestable act; they shall surely be put to death. Their bloodguiltness is upon them"

Yes at those times it says they will be put to death. But does it say they will go to hell?

Detestable: Stimulating disgust or detestation; offensive; shocking

That doesn't mean he will go to hell either.

Both of these verse you actually put are also stated with other things in verse before and after them. In Lev it also stated that you may not commit adultery? These verse you are putting on here are stated with other things basically meaning, do not do this or that it is wrong. it never said you will go to Hell only because of ONE THING. These are all stated with many other things.

Pastoring is not my calling...

and I'm not interested in molesting anyone.


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Actually, if I did that. I would have done that to my little cousins by now. But no. I had a job where I made 200k a year. I had a job where i only made 20k a year. None of them made me feel content like how i do now. Serving God is better than any paycheck. Because of how close I am to God. I notice many amazing things/miracles he does in my life weekly. The miracles I see/feel are worth more than any dollar. I didn't just feel God wanted me to become a Pastor. He showed it to me. Do you want to be a Rapper so you can look like a ganster? No.. you are an emcee because its your love, and its what you love doing. Serving God is my love and love doing more than anything else.

let's not forget the scripture in Leviticus that says a person should be put to DEATH for committing adultery...which Jesus later revised as "looking at someone lustfully"


and those who consort witches...witchcraft...that means HOROSCOPES...numerology...astrology..etc...

Point is...LEt's focus on the here and now...and here and now, God has a perfect, BETTER means of salvation...JESUS CHRIST




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The q doesn't have to be a Pastor to minister. He's ministering because he loves God and wants others to be saved. What tha q is doing is because he cares for you. Not because he hates you. He doesn't want you to go to Hell. He's doing it because he feels from the Holy Spirit that God wants him to talk to you. Wether you accept God into your life is your choice. Q is just doing what he Believes he needs to do.

word................

Yeah, I do lie and have premarital sex and I will NEVER ask for any type of forgiveness for doing so. That's the difference between you and I, I'm living my life of bliss, you're preparing for one that you hope exists.

You can fool yourself and say that you know it exists, but you don't and you're lying if you say that you do.

It's pointless to argue your religion with you because that's your belief and you're not going to change your views just like I won't change mine. I don't really care what you believe in or what you do with your life. You or Q, cool believe what you believe, fuck boys if you're into that, I'm not going to look at you any differently. You see, it's you who cares what I believe in because it's scary to you when things defy and prove your religion wrong.

Religious people aren't afraid of dying, but they're afraid of actually living.

I don't rap and I'm not an emcee. I play instruments and enjoy writing and used this site to help improve it.

You need to serve yourself mate, don't be stupid.

If you dont' want to believe in God thats your choice. All I am doing is rebuking everything you said. You stated all these things in the Bible, you even posted verses. You posted 1 verse.. But you didnt post the verses before and after them. You said it meant one thing when it meant an entirely different thing.

I'm not afraid of dying. And I did live the life you state you are living. The thing is, I feel more alive than ever now than before I accepted God in my life.