.........na i dont think shut will happen... i think its just anotha rumer r sum shit.........but if so i gotz sum questions....... cause american idol is diffrent, people sing OTHER peoples already writtin songs...... so if they have a rap idol then people goin be rappin other peoples songs, and anyone wit a sheet of lyrics and a mic can do that, so how they goin kno if a dude really does have talent........and how they goin rap songs wit out havin cuss words on public tv.......8 out a 10 rap songs cuss......and they cant rap censord ones cause they sound all fucked up........i dont kno.......i still dont think shit will happen.....but what eva....peace im out..........

FUCK P. DIDDY!

fuck him.

LaByRiNiTh_22, all that is meion on tha previous pages in this thread.

But his has been confirmed, just not advertised bcuz of American Juniors, tha new shit thats coming out.

aight den....good luck 2 diddy....peace

yo, i would try out for it, but i aint raping some one else's shit... i would com to the try outs with my own beat and rhymes... feel me on this? i cant tstand trying to be someone else

Would, indeed, be interesting to watch.. Unfortunately, any time one of these threads are posted, most of the people who comment are inclined to frown upon the Diddies and Fifties of the world who "don't have any street cred.." Although it's unfortunate, it's part of the life here on RB.

I'd most definitely watch, seeing that the Sixers are out.

New LOX?!?! Fammo, you just made my day, for sure.. Please pass me some more information on this. I guess most of it was recorded before SP got locked up.

By the way, when's he getting out? ONE, get at me! Please!

Styles P. is getting out in August 4 sure and when he gets out, he's dropping another solo joint.

I know I cant wait... LOX is hard as shit

who wuld like p diddy



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Stop putting up these half-ass comments... or i'll delete these bitches.

yeah but how long would that money last. it's like selling your soul to the devil.

look at the lox. they can barely get a fuckin hit as a group.
wheres Black Rob?
wheres 112?
I seen Faith, but she ain't doin to much.
What Happened to Mase.?

all these artists had hit songs on the radio. so why aren't they still making music.


cuz Puffy is the devil. He'll hit you up with mad advance money, then tax you on it, put intrest on it, before you pay it back. by the time you make enough money to pay him back, you'll have to have 2 albums released triple platinum, touring allover... and only spend the advance money he gave you.

and i heard, when you put shit up in major label studios...you don't get to keep everything your recorded. (depends on what your contract says)

so if Puffy came knocking on my door, with mad advance money and a travelin studio... i politly refuse, and put all the locks on my door.

^^ On that note, half of what you said is bullshit. I run my label like the big leagues. When I sign someone, it's an advance and perks like free studio time, food, lodging when on the road, shit like that. Tha shit you record, which is called masters, are either mines or the artist cuz that's extra money when a greatest hits album or something like that comes out.

As far as advance money,the company can't tax money they already gave you. Advance money is free money bcuz if you never release a song or album, you don't have to recoup, or pay back. Perfect example is 50 Cent with Columbia Records. And if you drop an album, u can recoup with 250,000 copies selling. Going gold puts some money in your pockets, but when you go platinum, thats more money and you can get like label deals and shit. I'll explain after this post.

112-Currently in the situation of signing with Island Def Jam. They wanted to move on.

Mase-Minister. He got tired of the lifestyle

Black Rob-In Tha Studio. PD is smart. Why bring him out now when 50 is holding it down so hard. His tour is coming up and he'll be holding it down until the end of the year. I don't care about how well your fan base is or your confidence, spending that money will be a waste, period.

Faith Evans-Still with the fam. Her last album went platinum. And it was hott.

LOX-What rap group has went platinum? How can a gangsta, thugged out as group have a decent single? To have a single played on the radio, one must have a marketable enough song. Radio can't play that hood shit all the time.

The rest of the family is going hard as ever. Like I said, it ain't smart to come out right now. I'll explain how PD makes money even though nothing is out right now with Bad Boy.

How P.Diddy Still Makes Money
 

Okay, this is how the business works. I'm putting it into simple terms:

We'll take Biggie's album "Life After Death" for our example. It went 10x platinum.

(We'll Use Fictional Numbers Cuz We Don't Know The Exact Ones)

-Big was signed with a $250,000 advance. Uncle Sam takes $75,000 right off top. So he has $175,000.

-Big drops "Life After Death"(Lets say he dropped it in the present time to use our prices). It costs $2 million to produce.

Breakdown of $$$:

Production/Studio Time/Engineer----$500,000
Manufactering/Duplication------------$$250,000 for the 1st million
Marketing/Videos-----------------------$1 million
Travel/Food/Lodging/Promotion------$250,000

We spent our budget. Now let's look at what we made when we dropped.

-We have 1 million albums to sell. Our distributor sells them for us. We sell them to our distributor for $10 an album. Right now average retail price of a cd is $16.98.

-The album is spread out into the 5 regions, North,
South, MidWest, West, and East. 200,000 copies in each region..

-In 1 month, we go platinum. We made $10 million. 8.5 million is taken away and given to the companies we worked with. After 3xs platinum, everything is ours. Lets speed this up. We owe 15.5 million to the companies, exluding our parent label who we owe half of whatever we make.

Our Income $70 million
Our Debt $15.5 million
______________________
Our Income Now $55.5 million

Half to Arista $27.5 million
________________________
Our Income Now, $27.5 million.


Now comes ASCAP. If we have songs one the radio now like 3, then that's another $20 million a year off those song.

We do a tour, 25 shows at $50,000 a night. Thats 1.25 million for one person, say PD.

Our Current Income 48.75 million.

Time to split money. Biggie gets 2%. He has 9.7 million. The rest is Bad Boy's, or P.Diddy's. Thats 38.8 million. So you pay royalties over 20 years, which will be 1 million a year.


Now imagine P.Diddy doing this with 4 album. That just goes platinum. Thats how he keeps his money.

Sean John makes $300 million a year, his restaurants and studio bring in about $50 million, and endorsement deals bring in another $20 million a year.

So if the artsits ain't got no money now, then that's on them. They still get paid 1 million a year on royalties. So they are not broke.

^alright cool.. my facts were a lil twisted.. thanks for clearing that up.

but i still won't sign with him. hey thats just me.

is there really a such thing as going Diamond? How many albums do u have to sell to go Diamond . . . if there is such a thing?

hahahhahahahahahahah , , Diamond , , hahahahahahahahah , , , ,and Finesse Streetz you think you're smart dawg , , ,, doin all dat mathemical problems and shit

get a life herb

should be dope

I went nuclear (-100 albums sold) last night..

Patiently awaiting a new SP album, but I doubt he could get it out that quick.. Maybe by Christmas, but he just dropped one before he went in.

I'd like to see a new Jada or collective LOX

Shit man,then if u spend all that money and ur album flops lol

ur fucked basically

~KroniK~

^^^ Well in every business, there is a risk. In the industry, you have to grab your balls and do what you have to do. Marketing and promotion is key.

Yes, there is a such thing as going diamond. Diamond is 10 million album sold. In rap, only MC Hammer's "Don't Hurt Em Hammer" and Big's "Life After Death" sold over 10 million albums. Britney Spears went diamond with "Ooops I Did It Again". Michael Jackson went 30x platinum with "Bad".
Eminem an Nelly have albums that are 8xs platinum. 2Pac's "All Eyez On Me" is currently 9xs platinum.

I would sign with PD. And when Rap Idol starts, I'll be right there.